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Reader question: Loose floor tiles
Dear readers,
In my house I have quite large floor tiles, namely 60 x 60 cm. Beautiful in itself, but the problem is that they regularly come loose from the floor. Have had a number of those tiles re-glued a few times, but after a while a number of them become loose again.
What is causing this? Wrong (cheap) glue? Advice on a glue where this will certainly never happen again? Or maybe better to use smaller sized floor tiles? Or maybe don't use glue but another, fixing substance?
I would certainly appreciate a solution.
I'm curious about your suggestions.
Regards,
Leo
Leo moisten the floor ..before you put tile adhesive on it.
Glue does not adhere well if it dries too quickly!
2 use a trowel with longer teeth so that the tiles close vacuum better.
use a primer, and use with flexible powder adhesive, I have been laying tiles for 35 years, there has never been 1 loosened wall or floor. good luck
Dear Leo,
also had this problem and after having re-glued the tiles (60×60) a few times, it continued to take longer. Next to the re-glued tile, another one came loose. So we renewed the entire floor and had the tiles fixed with cement and no more glue.
Gr Sven
We have the same problem outside under the carport.
Tiles are set in cement, but apparently the grout is not properly sealed and water is getting underneath.
In NL you can buy sets to spray 2-component sealant under it, but I have not come across it here yet. Looked at Homepro and came across this
https://www.homepro.co.th/homePro/en/search/?selectedView=gridView&text=tile+adhesive.
Maybe someone has experience with this.
So far only tiles have been seen here at various addresses, which were not laid in glue, but in cement.
At 1 address 2 tiles were not placed properly, you heard it when you walked over it. Solution:
joints carefully scraped out with thin, sharp knife, then aqueous cement solution vibrated into joints (gently tap tile with wooden or rubber backed hammer while cement solution is poured into joint). Don't walk on the tile until cement has dried, problem solved.
Perhaps level the floor and lay it level.
I have seen it several times, both in apartments in Hua Hin and in Jomtien. There is then a whole row in a point upwards, as if the tiles are too big. I think it has to do with expansion/contraction of the building due to heat/cold.
My friend had the same problem (60 – 60 tiles)
Re-glued twice, came loose again.
Resolute decision – break everything out and remove the substrate with a jackhammer.
Then the substrate turned out to be of VERY poor quality – more sand than cement.
Now with sand and LOTS of cement (not salt shaker).
Problem solved.
Were professionals working.
We live in an apartment in Bang Khun Thian (BKK) that my wife bought 10 years ago. She then also had the floor and shower/balcony walls tiled. 3 years ago, the tiles of the balcony wall first started to come loose, clearly due to shrinkage of the underlying wall. Shortly afterwards, tiles in the bedroom also started to loosen due to shrinkage stresses. When I heard that some other apartments also had this problem, I started replacing the tiles last year. So far everything is going well.
But how this shrinkage was caused is still a mystery to me (and others). As a technical damage expert, I have experienced sometimes bizarre construction damage for decades, but never this.
Is it always the same tiles that you have to glue again, or always others that come loose?
It can only be due to 2 things.
Either the surface is not good or the glue is indeed of a very poor quality.
Try a better quality adhesive and make sure the surface is free of dust and suitable for good adhesion.
Spread the adhesive over the entire surface where the tile will be placed, and make sure that no hollow space is created under the tile.
When laying the Tile, make sure that the adhesive is still moist, and not that the substrate has already absorbed the moisture in the adhesive.
Glue in which the moisture has already disappeared into the substrate can never ensure good adhesion, so that the tiles will become loose again with the greatest certainty over time.
Hi Leo.
I have laid/put more than 550m3 tiles in my house.
And there is not one loose now I also looked for front glue and could not find it.
But I bought big buckets of white old fashioned wood glue from Thai watsado.
And that mixed with water and then poured over the concrete floor and that worked great.
When I was almost done I even put it through the tile glue and it worked even better the glue became smooth and easy to work with.
You should also dampen the tiles on the underside.
It prevents the surface from drying up too quickly and the adhesion is much better.
And make sure that the full sun is not on the newly laid floor.
You have to use good tile adhesive I used Weber cost almost nothing about 200 bath.
This way it can not go wrong if the concrete floor is good .
Gr Rob
First treat the floor with primer and then both the floor and the
Rub the tile with glue, so the floor with a toothed comb of 10mm and the bottom side of the tile with the flat side of the toothed comb (butter in)
Always use a primer, otherwise the moisture will disappear into the surface too quickly. For large tiles, use glue spreader 10 or rub both the substrate and the tile.
Suitable glue is a must. But also double gluing. Prime if necessary.