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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Married to a Thai house in Thailand
Reader question: Married to a Thai house in Thailand
Dear readers,
I am married to a Thai and would like to buy a house in Thailand. Can I have something included in the purchase contract to protect me?
- if my wife dies that I can stay in the house without her relatives claiming it?
- in the event of a divorce that I can demand something?
Thanks in advance and best regards
Paul
Engage a lawyer with civil-law notary powers, do take one in the area where you live
and with demonstrable experience in these matters and who is on your side
so find yourself
Moderator: Please just respond to the reader's question.
When purchasing, have your wife sign an IOU for the full amount. Also have usufruct (usufruct) noted on the chanote, that you can continue to live in the house as long as you live.
Hans,
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's not allowed for a Thai to borrow from a foreigner and a foreigner to lend to a Thai. Giving is allowed. When it comes down to it, I'm afraid the IOU is worthless. Maybe another blog reader will know for sure, but this is the information I have on this.
The short answer is: no. Continue to act as Hans Bos indicates above. That works perfectly, as I have experienced in practice. Make sure she also makes a will, in which she appoints you as executor. If you wish, you can sell the house yourself.
Have it put on paper by a good lawyer in Thai and English.
success.
answer “no” refers to your question whether you can have something taken in the purchase contract.
Please contact my American friend and lawyer, Khun Pan, 0898977980. He has Thai nationality in addition to American nationality. nationality. He is called a law firm in Ayutthaya and is 100% reliable. And important, experience in similar cases.
A 30-year lease on the land that will belong to your wife anyway (foreigners cannot buy immovable property (land) and buy the house (movable property/bricks) in your name.
Those 2 formulas guarantee you what you would like to secure in your question.
In chanot of the land have that lease recorded (makes it difficult / impossible to burden the chanot with loans).
It does require some knowledge and, above all, perseverance on your part, but it is completely legal and applicable.
Usufruct to the surviving spouse can also be recorded in documents like a will between you as a couple.
And provided that “caution is still the mother of the porcelain shop”, this is never an unnecessary affair.
Happy Easter
If you buy a house in the name of your Thai wife, you must sign a form at the land office that the money used for this is your wife's. This is to prevent you from submitting a claim in the event of a divorce.
You can have a usufruct added to the chanote in your name at the land office. This gives you the right to the usufruct (30 years or lifelong) if your wife dies. If your wife dies, you become the owner, but you will have to sell the house within a year, because of the usufruct you can continue to live there, but who will buy in this case. So it is better that your wife makes a will and leaves it to one or better several relatives. The intention is that they do not sell it as long as you live.
Any agreement entered into after the marriage can also be dissolved, including the usufruct. So in case of a divorce and it is dissolved by your wife, it is of no value.
A usufruct should be possible at every country office, but there are offices where it is for Thai only. So first inquire whether this is possible at the relevant country office.
The methods have already been described above, but some words of warning: rather not build on land close to the family, or in the same village. The run-up is enormous, and if my wife dies, it will be very difficult to continue living in the house, even if there is usufruct or a 30-year lease..
After much deliberation, I opted for renting myself. You can live beautifully for little, you can still move if you get bored, less worries, much more secure alternative and financially it doesn't matter much.
Or the land and house must of course be intended to give your wife a carefree old age, then I would say: go for it.
A complicated question. What matters is how you are married. Really registered at amphur or married at Thai embassy or consulate? If so, then you are legally married and then a distinction is made between assets before and during the marriage. If you buy something in Thailand within the marriage, it is 50/50 property, unless you can prove that the money was yours before the marriage and it was declared on import. In the latter case you are the owner, but it may lead to legal wrangling.
Foreigners cannot own land in Thailand. There are three options:
1st. You buy an apartment in a Freehold construction and the property falls into the community of property, unless the money from the purchase price comes from you before the marriage and has been entered correctly.
2nd. Your partner or another Thai buys land and you conclude a 30-year leasehold contract with a side letter in which the contract partners solemnly promise to extend the lease after 30 years. You can write off the money you provided because even with proof that the money was yours, you can never acquire ownership of the land and with it the building. In the event of a dispute in the event of a divorce or the death of a partner, you will probably get the short end of the stick.
3rd. You buy a house in a company. Depending on when the Ltd was founded, there must be three shareholders and the Thai shareholders must own a minimum of 51%. Due to different voting priorities, the foreign shareholder can acquire approximately 90% voting rights. Often the shares of the foreign shareholder have 10 votes per share and the Thai one vote per share. With a share transfer form pre-filled by the Thais, you get the greatest grip on ownership. Here, too, proof of pre-marriage money possession and correct importation are crucial, otherwise the company will still fall under the community of property. In the event of a divorce or death of the partner, you have full control over the property, because the sale of the company must be decided in the shareholders' meeting, in which you own 90% of the shares.
The third option is strongly discouraged. After all, the solution is contrary to the tenor of the law that foreigners are not allowed to have power over real estate.
A few years ago there was a raid by the Thai authorities on companies that in reality do nothing. A large part of this concerns 'companies' that do nothing but rent out 1 house, and then to one or more of the company's shareholders. That had to be over…..so: think before you leap.
I don't know if that is possible in Thailand and will hold up before a judge, especially if your neighbors = family of your ex/deceased wife want to bully you away: build in a “poison pill” in such a way that no one is interested in that house/land to take over.
In NL that worked out great: sister's land (somewhat mentally and physically handicapped) could be used on the condition that there would always be a room available for sister in that house to be built. In a divorce later, the value of that house was valued at € 1,00 by the judge.
For example, I can imagine a loan from .. to… for a considerable amount, for example 1% below the personal loan %.
The simplest and cheapest solution!
Which of course I have used myself.
Buy an affordable house for less than half of your assets.
Everything comes down to the case tirak. No lawyers' fees and hassle with papers that later turn out to be worthless with the help of even more lawyers and even more costs.
And assume from day one that you have lost everything.
Keep the cash in your name.
She will love you forever because of the cash.
You love your rich wife with Her house forever!
And you both continue to do your best to have and keep a nice relationship !!
If you buy a condo, it can be in your name, but then you have to live in a big city!
Would like to inquire about this….
Good luck
Buying in your own name is only possible if the majority of the other condos (51% or more) are owned by Thai citizens. Has nothing to do with city or countryside.
In fact, I think you are more likely to succeed in Khon Kaen or Ubon than in Hua Hin, Bangkok or Pattaya.
Dear Paul,
We also just bought a new house and we moved in on January 1st.
I've been coming to Thailand for a long time and I've already lost a house, but you learn.
My girlfriend is the owner, you have no rights yourself, all good advice from others.
If she wants to kick you out, she calls family, who come to sleep in the house, even in the bathroom
and make your life so miserable that you will leave.
So, just a house, if she takes out a mortgage and I pay the interest + principal.
At the bank she received 90% for a new house or 60% for an older house. (with art and flying work)
But the Government Housing Bank is willing to lend up to 2 million reasonable without many guarantees.
You have to cough up more yourself.
I learned 2 important things in Thailand;
Never lend money, give it for free, in exchange for making it work (anything) and preferably in parts, for example; 4 x 5000 Baht.
and make a Thai financially dependent on you. If I leave, she'll never be able to afford her house.
A home of her own is just as important as her own child.
Greetings