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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Who has information about raising pigs in Thailand for sale?
Dear readers,
Does anyone know more about raising pigs until they are ready for sale?
There is possibility for stables and the manure can be used for the rice fields. We live in Chayaphum.
With kind regards,
Van den Rijse
I'm going to give you the best tip of your life.
I have gained a lot of experience with foreigners who have started farms here. One with pigs, the other with mushrooms, . . . ducks, . . . swine, . . . dragon fruit, . . . etc.
And ? I've never met anyone who made anything out of it. There always had to be money and work 8 days a week.
Don't Farm Here! Think carefully!
Van den Rijse; have a LEO beer and burp.
Dear Van den Rijse,
If you have to come to Thailand as a farang to farm, it is actually better to stay in the Netherlands. There is little or nothing to earn here for farangs compared to the Netherlands / Belgium. If you really want to get into a lot of trouble: well then do what you want and start a pig fattening row here. Make it far enough from my humble abode.
Or else you'd better ask the question on a Chinese or Russian blog…. they have a lot of experience in breeding all kinds of pigs.
Lung addie
hello,
just a correction, the family lives there, I myself stay in Belgium with my wife, the intention is to start with 10 or 20 pigs and I don't care about the rest, the question is, is there anything left when the pigs grow up? are for sale, as long as they are busy they will still have something left, in addition, they are rice farmers but have a lot of work to do and they are getting a bit older, so my questions about the pigs, luc
My girlfriend has had pigs for a year.
Purchase of a pig around 3000 to 3500 baht.
After 3 months they are big enough for sale.
They then weigh around 100 kg each.
Price per kilo around 70 baht.
Minus the costs for (special) feed, she takes about 2500 baht net profit per pig.
Caring for the pigs includes feeding them in the morning and evening.
They get a shower a few times a week, which they love.
The manure is not used.
In addition, she also has ducks, chickens, rabbits and dogs and 2 kids walking around.
It doesn't yield much, but it doesn't cost any money either.
Rob
hello rob, thanks for your honest answer, it's a pity that the euro is doing so badly, isn't it? otherwise I will put a stall there and my parents-in-law can farm a bit on a small scale, they have a lot of rice fields, but because they are getting older they will probably have these plots worked,
greetings luc
It now appears that your question is about wanting to help your aging in-laws find lighter work by means of. breeding pigs.
1. Well then you better come up with something else for them, working in smelly pigsties where the ammonia hangs around is not exactly the best place for people to work and certainly not for your aging in-laws. In addition, cleaning is certainly not light work.
2.I don't think you have any idea how things are in Thailand, if you are not on site I'm heartbroken what you will have to provide to keep the Company going.
3. Occupational therapy is very different from starting a breeding sow business.
Sorry I don't sound encouraging, I like to improvise, do business and try, but think again very carefully is my advice and find another therapy for these older people.
Start it anyway, then wish you lots of success and that is not meant cynically.
Nico B
Best of the Rijse
I fully understand that from an idealistic point of view you want to raise pigs in Th. If you have the knowledge .?
Like Alex, I strongly advise you, Don't start!!
You will lose all your invested capital, and you yourself will be a slave to the stinking work.
And if it turns out to be something, everyone wants to eat with you, because you're rich.
Of course you can keep two breeding sows for the hobby, if there is a boar nearby.
Then you can breed about 30 piglets in total per year, and if you make them big you need to have fattening pens for 10 to 15 larger pigs. (I know what I'm talking about) then you already have a lot of dung and flies.
When you get tired you can easily stop. And the damage is manageable.
I wish you much wisdom and happiness, Van Gerard from Sri Lanka.
hello gerald,
shouldn't be a big company, but about 20, even if it is 2000 bath per pig (keep left)
You can always keep a few more if things go well, but don't overdo it!
greetings luc
100% agree with Gerard, fattening yields little compared to the amount of work.
Breeding piglets and selling them after a few weeks. Much easier. And you don't need a bear, artificial insemination (you can learn it yourself :-)).
Where do you get the quality sperm?
It all has to be done with sterile means, (take a course)
The semen must be transported temperature-controlled at 4 degrees Celsius.
Regards Gerard from Sri Lanka.
Rob's story is presented a bit rosy and I will explain why;
with the same ideal (manure for the land, so no fertilizer) I also started the adventure.
The purchase of a piglet currently costs 1200 baht and the associated feeding program from Betagro approximately 3700 baht.
If you are able to get the piglets to 4 kg after 100 months of suffering, which is not easy because it is all inbred, and you are lucky that none will fall over due to illness at a current market price of 53 bath per kg a pig Bring in 5300 bath and then I don't even count the vitamin, worm cure, etc.
You cannot compare fattening with the Netherlands because it is much warmer here and the pigs therefore eat much less (read grow).
If you still want to go on the adventure, I wish you good luck.
If you live in the countryside and you are somewhat active, it is fun to do some hobby farming. You can earn some pocket money by raising some pigs for manure. Rob F talks about purchasing a fattening piglet for about 3000 bath, which seems me a lot because when I lived in the countryside 4 years ago a healthy piglet cost between 1100 and 1300 bath. So there can be a little more left over and when the freezer is empty you can keep one of the pigs for your own consumption. But to I wouldn't do that to set up a mega fattening farm. Breeding piglets, i.e. keeping sows and giving birth to a litter of piglets 1 or 3 times a year, also seems too difficult for a hobby farmer. I would say go for it and have fun. farmers with some chickens, ducks, if necessary a pond with some fish and a few pigs, then it can never cost you your head and you are a bit busy. And always healthier than toasting with LEO.
David, I like it!
It seems strong to me that pigs in Thailand grow twice as fast as in the Netherlands.
fattening from here takes 6 months.
I also think you better take a few sows and sell the piglets, 3500 bath ok to fatten those pigs is not much compared to the piglet price..
I have also thought about purchasing sows, having had pigs for years.
My wife has a few acres of land in chaiyaphum then we can compete lol
Good luck
I think that will be very difficult with pigs or cattle .
A friend lost a lot of money with it.
And then a large fish pond started, it went well until strangers came to fish at night.
Tried everything, the best is to put a guard there.
But money doesn't really pay off.
I myself had the idea to start a cheese farm, even bought everything from cooling tank to cheese molds press etc.
But everything is still in nl because the relationship fell apart and the idea is on the back burner.
As everyone knows cheese is expensive here and the idea is not really easy to imitate by a Thai.
Maybe someone is interested, I want to finish my house first.
Greetings Rob
It might be fun as a hobby and extra income.
In itself you have little cost.
A fence and shelter made of local (bamboo) building material if available.
However, you do get the stench and the vermin as a gift.
I have run a medium sized pig farm, I can assure you that it can be fun to keep a few pigs as a hobby, just be careful where you buy your piglets or you will be out of money within two weeks.
And then I read a nice calculation above; purchase 3.000 sell after 3 months 7.000, what costs for feed profit 2.500. But I can give you the real story, a pig costs an average of 1000 baht in feed every 4 weeks, after three months a pig, if you start at a starting weight of 15-20 kilos, weighs between 80 and 100 kilos, let's say an average of 90 kilos. If you start with piglets of 10 to 15 kilos, you will have to factor in 4 months of feed, which is cheaper to buy, around 2.500. But then the yield, if you sell the pigs locally from home, you can make a kilo price ranging from 45 to a maximum of 70 baht a kilo, but if you breed a lot of pigs, you will have to sell them per freight, e.g. through your feed supplier, you will then always receive a daily price minus 3 baht and you can get credit on your feed purchase after the first delivery. Be careful transporting feed also costs money. T
Local Thai, count a bit less well and always from the most favorable side, but I can guarantee you one thing, If you are lucky and no illnesses or deaths due to weakness or stress, you play kiet and if you go big, winnings are between 300 and 500 baht each. But beware, a pigsty must be disinfected like a hospital and no strangers or dogs in your stable, because then you will lose your money in 1 go. Just take a look at a professional pig farm, if they let you in at all 1 bacillus is enough. Good luck
Dear Van den Rijse, you do not indicate what your knowledge and skills are with regard to. breeding pigs.
I would say do a trial round with a few sows first, complete that trial period, then you've encountered the most you can encounter.
Then you know something about health care, vet costs, the amount of work that has to be done, required feed, costs thereof, quality of the feed, manure storage and processing, etc.
Depending on the results vwb. labour, investment, risk, etc. can you then think about whether or not to expand, if it is disappointing, then you know why and the financial risk is limited.
Let us know how this turned out on the blog, I'm very curious about it.
good luck,
Nico B
I completely agree with the negative opinions.
A friend (here in Chaiyaphum) started a pig business.
In the beginning everything went fine.
20 pigs dead this year.
Medicines, feed, high prices for the piglets, lower prices per kilo …
Result: STOP … no profit, only loss.
Not to mention the investment in the lofts.
I started a breeding farm in The Philippines 3 years ago and it is going very well, my entire investment was around 50.000 euros, which includes feed for the pigs until they go to piglets. I started with 20 pigs that I bought for 1200 pesos, which produced 20 pigs around 400 pigs, I sell my pigs around 100 kg and get 150 pesos per kilo! last year so 40.000 kg at a price of 150 pesos is 6 ml peso deduct the costs of 2 ml then I keep that and 4 ml about 80.000 euros. This year we are going to 600 pieces! Please note that you must have money to cover the initial costs of sale (cash flow), and the labor costs are very low. We employ 3 people who cost us around 10.000 per month! and yes, our farm is secured with CTV and fenced, it is not allowed to walk in uninvited, dogs and chickens are prohibited!
So to your question if it's a good investment I say yes and draw your own plan and don't listen too much to all those negative messages, just go by your gut and sit on top of everything!
Fred
Fred congratulations that you are doing so well, great to hear, really.
Van den Rijse, you indicate in the second instance that it is intended to provide your aging parents-in-law with lighter work, that is not a professional company such as Fred has built up.
I first gave you the advice to start it up quietly, then it turned out that you want to set this up for your older parents-in-law, so you are not there yourself and can therefore not do what Fred rightly advises and is necessary, namely. to sit.
Suppose this small-scale hobby produces 40 piglets per year, what you think would generate an income of 40.000 per year, that is say 1.200 euros per year or 100 euros per month, to do all this hassle for that and then work hard for older people, send them 100 euros a month and let them have a wonderful old age, read a book, do some hobby in the garden with herbs, vegetables and fruit, much less complicated.
I wish you much wisdom in your decision.
Nico B
Hi Fred,
I already see it,
You are a professional, an entrepreneur who works hard.
Because there are few rules and with cheap labor you can do this,, intensive,, way
Getting results. Hats off!!!
You do not relax your attention to ward off intruders and diseases.
However... I hope for your sake that foot and mouth disease and swine fever stay away.
Of course that's a business risk, isn't it??
In nl. I got off with few unscathed, but stopped.
A hurricane can also blow over in Fillipinos and wipe everything away.
I'm glad to see this case is going well so far (kinda rare)
Greetings from Gerard from Sri Lanka.
Dear van den Rijse,
Now I know a little better what your intention is,
Here in Sri Lanka I saw an example that appealed to me.
I came to someone with a piece of land afterwards, there was shade from young coconut trees.
He had built a pig pen of 3×3 meters, high and strong, because they break everything.
Above it a corrugated iron roof. Everything open for fresh air.
with a strong gate / door……..in it stood a beautiful large Large White Sow.
They had just sold the piglets for a good price (10 pieces)
Now we had to wait until the sow wanted to go into heat again, then it had to be placed on a landmaster
Traktorkar to be loaded and to the bear (10 KM)
One time he chose a large white bear for the pure breed, and the other time for york bear.
Then you get hybrids that have better properties.
If you can call an AI station in the morning so that the inseminator comes by, is that easier?
This man also had 20 goats in his garden, which stood in a timbered wooden pen on concrete poles.
These were fed with tree leaves with branches. also a by-product of the coconut oil mill.
So you see, there are very nice things, but don't break your neck, we are better off avoiding risk at our age.
Write something again, I'll keep following it…. Greetings from Sri Lanka from Gerard.