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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Can the eggs in Thailand be trusted?
Reader question: Can the eggs in Thailand be trusted?
Dear readers,
In recent days, the news in the Netherlands has been dominated by an egg scandal. Eggs from various farms, recognizable by the egg code, are said to contain slightly too high concentrations of poison against chicken lice.
Does anyone know about food safety in Thailand, especially eggs? I regularly go on holiday to Thailand and I like to break the day with the tap of an egg.
Regards,
Teun
There are few places in the world where food control is as strict as in the Netherlands. If you want certainty about the safety of the food, it is best to stay in the Netherlands. If you want good food, come here anyway 😉
I think eggs are the least you have to worry about. Many agricultural poisons are used in Thailand to combat diseases and insects. There is hardly any control, so also many prohibited substances.
I think as a tourist you don't have to worry so much if you ingest some residual poison (the particulate matter you breathe in Bangkok is much more dangerous), you won't die from that. Long-term exposure, of course, is a different story. If I lived in Thailand I would grow my own vegetables and buy organic as much as possible.
Here's some more reading material, but that won't make you happy: https://www.thailandblog.nl/stelling-van-de-week/gerotzooid-voedsel-thailand/
Thailand imports 160.000 tons of agricultural poisons annually, costing the country 22 billion baht. According to the World Bank, Thailand is the world's fifth largest importer of chemicals. About 70 percent of the pesticides used there are extremely dangerous and banned in the West. As a result, 81 percent of water reservoirs are contaminated. The same goes for food.
NL people abroad always think that the same laws apply there as at home. NO. In Thailand, the monks, who pick up food along the way, are checked every day. Microbiological, pesticide and heavy metal problems… are “oh too small to see…” (literally heard).
For the export market, supervision is done by the international auditors. Since 1994 I have been amazed at the total absence of knowledge as well as interest in the factories themselves.
Eggs in Thailand: good luck with it.
In the Netherlands, the egg story or the sickening attitude of the NVWA: although testing has been done at barn level instead of at farm level, the NVWA considers making a list at barn level 'impossible'. Rather, hundreds of poultry farmers are allowed to go bankrupt.
The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) tests on laboratory animals when a dose just does not cause any harm, divides that value by a hundred to be sure and thus determines the safe dose. People may ingest 0,0002 milligrams of fipronil per kilogram of body weight daily and 0,009 milligrams per kilogram in one go, above which the EFSA no longer excludes the possibility of health risks arising.
So read it yourself, see page 2 http://onlinelibrary.wiley…. EFSA publication from 2012
The toxicological profile of fipronil was assessed in the framework of the peer review under Directive
91/414/EEC and the data were sufficient to derive an ADI of 0.0002 mg/kg bw per day and an ARfD
or 0.009 mg/kg bw.
In other words: 100 kg body weight = 0,02 fipronil intake or: with an egg with 0,021 mg/kg (and an egg of M (medium) 53-63 grams) so: eating 1 kg of eggs. DAILY. So at… 58 g per egg… about 17 eggs… PER DAY . You would go nuts…
To achieve that 0,009… so for a person weighing 100 kg: an intake of 0,9 g fipronil… with again those eggs with 0,021 mg/kg… 4,3 kg egg, or: 74 eggs… in ONE day…
And then we still have a margin of 100x!
Martijn Katan (nutrition, Free University): 'Actually, you should express the toxicity of such an egg in glasses of red wine a day. People would be surprised: it would be a very small drop per day.' In that light, the panic about the eggs is somewhat disproportionate, he thinks.
Or: Martin vd Berg, toxicologist Uni Utrecht on TV: “we drip our dog with the same poison: a dog of .. 40 kg about 5000 times the poison eggs”.
Your baby crawls up to that animal to pet it and then puts its hand in its mouth. How many poison eggs is that? Oh wait.. is not a food…
Do you now also feel cheated, misled, panicked, etc.? ?
zie https://www.volkskrant.nl/wetenschap/hoe-schadelijk-is-het-in-eieren-aangetroffen-gif-fipronil-eigenlijk~a4509296/
Given the huge use of asbestos, which is cut to size in the open air with angle grinders, I wouldn't worry too much about the food.
Thailand is just not the healthiest country to live in.
Everything depends on where you buy your eggs. Buying them on the local market is really not a good idea. If you buy them in an NBg C or Tops, you run very little risk. If you buy another brand such as Betagro, there is no risk at all. But yes, they cost much more, so also here is the old wisdom, frugality cheats wisdom and you get what you pay for.
The eggs of the Big C and other department stores come from the large-scale chicken factories.
Where the chickens probably live in considerably worse conditions than in the Netherlands.
And where poison and anti-biotics are used enthusiastically.
It seems to me that the eggs from the free-range chickens on the (local) market will be a lot safer.
When you see the eggs in local markets exposed to the scorching sun for several days, at temperatures of 40 degrees, I have strong doubts about their freshness. You won't find free-range eggs at local markets. I think they don't even exist in Thailand. Are all industrial chicken farms raised,
My neighbour's chickens are constantly foraging in the garden.
Sometimes with chicks.
Those chicks probably hatch from the eggs, which are not eaten, because some chickens have 1 or 2 chicks and other chickens a whole nest (about 8).
I call those eggs for consumption free-range eggs.
The eggs on which the chicken incubates will also be kept warm at about 40 degrees.
So I assume they won't spoil from the heat.
In the shops in the village, they are also simply standing in the heat without air conditioning.
But I admit, it is not impossible that if the eggs in the market have been in the hot sun for a few days (they would be, because the turnover rate is probably high), and you want to make an omelette; that when you smash an egg, the contents Beep! says in your mixing bowl.
@ henry many market vendors and small business owners buy the big packs from Tesco Lotus, cheaply, and then sell these items single on the market for a few baht profit. Also happens with grapes, etc. I've seen how that goes at Tesco Lotus with unsaleable goods. The rotten grapes or eggs are thrown away and the good ones are put together and then sold again at a so-called reduced price, bargain of the week. No risk?
If someone regularly goes on holiday to Thailand, it is better to worry about road safety than about a piece of cake!
If someone is psychologically influenced by all kinds of possible causes of death, robbery, traffic, food, etc., that may become the number 1 cause of death.
Dear Teun, no idea how long you are going to Thailand for that holiday? But I'll tell you a secret. Thai are just like people!. They eat eggs and die relatively easily if they have to and also easily get intestinal complaints.
if you want to eat somewhere in a stall along the street and there are several Thai food, don't hesitate.
if it didn't work, those Thai wouldn't come back either. And if those few eggs that you are going to eat during your holiday are heavily poisoned, you would immediately notice that because the Thai people around you drop dead.
if they are less violently poisoned, those eggs, then that is a matter of possible bad substances that you store a bit somewhere in your body. You also do that through air pollution, through the use of deodorant, through much more. It is wise to occasionally do something about cleansing (detox) in the Netherlands (also possible here in Thailand), but I wouldn't worry about it here. Stress when eating has been scientifically proven to be worse for humans than bad food! usually, but then I'd have to dig into the numbers and I don't feel like it, you'd have to eat 20-30-40 eggs a day before you start having a problem with a food (eggs in this case) that has something wrong with it.
The food and air in Thailand are sometimes not very healthy. but for those who complain little, stress little and enjoy life, life is actually healthy here. the whiners are out of luck!
Yesterday I spoke with a Flemish buddy of mine in a nice pub. He is now 93 and has just broken up with his third Thai relationship. He closes and he has been painting here for 35 years. He sighs to me that he no longer feels like the conversations that are part of a good relationship. I've pretty much said everything.
Do I have to start over again now, I don't have to anymore. but Frank, he says, everything still works. he points significantly down behind his whiskey at the bar. and I now have a nice lady who cooks for me and keeps things tidy. she lives in my downstairs room. She would really like to take care of me, that is, she would like to move one room upstairs. I hesitate, he doesn't, he says pointing down again.
Teun I tell you this to show that life is healthy here, And by the way, my buddy starts every day with 2 eggs, so…..
Enjoy life and remember an egg is part of it!
Frank
to bene
amen man,
Sorry for the typos, it's mainly glitches of my keyboard.
Frank
I wouldn't worry too much about that, because a lot of food contains things that you don't actually expect.
That whole egg-gate is blown up big time. I would be more concerned (and certainly worried) about a chemical company that discharges its waste water into the surface water and about which the water company in that region then says it can do no harm!
I don't know about you, but I can't really reconcile chemical plant, waste disposal and "does no harm".