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Home » Reader question » A2 integration course Dutch language?
A2 integration course Dutch language?
Dear readers,
On 16/11 we can collect the residence permit and next week my partner's BSN number. So the DUO will soon register for the A2 integration course. I have looked at a number of study options:
- Tree (Delft method)
- Add Apple
- NTI (from A1 to A2) (they say this is something obsolete?)
- Ellen Oostenbrink (Lingua Incognita)
- nt2taalmenu.nl (with parts of Ad Appel)
- Joke Kalisvaart (“Dutch Grammar”)
- Roc River schools (unknown to me)
- DUO (visual training) with parts of Ad Appel and Ellen Oostenbrink) (for training purposes)
Can fellow Thailand bloggers share their experience with me or offer any advice? The residential location is between Geldermalsen and Tiel.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards,
Hansest
Hi Hansest,
I myself come from near Tiel and my wife spent 2 years at the ROC Rivor in Tiel. Our experience is that the education at the ROC in Tiel is very poor, little attention is paid to the students and the tuition is very expensive (unfortunately this was the only option for us). What I can recommend if your partner will soon go to school are extra lessons at the Dynamics foundation in Tiel. My wife takes extra lessons here in the Dutch language at different levels, 2 half days a week. My wife enjoys going here. These classes are free to follow, you just need to register your partner. If you want to know more or if your partner wants to get in touch with my Thai wife, you can email me [email protected]
Yours faithfully,
Daniel Seeger
I myself live in Germany and the German courses my wife has followed were given at the Volkshochschule which is many times cheaper than in the Netherlands for Dutch. At the time we inquired in the Netherlands for her to learn Dutch there. We live in the north of Emmen and we ended up at the University of Groningen, which is not too expensive in terms of price. Perhaps a university in your area also offers this option.
My now Thai ex with 3 years of secondary education in Thailand immediately after 6 months of language lessons in Antwerp (the reason to follow the Belgium route faster on language lessons) started with MBO 1 and then followed MBO 2, MBO 3 and MBO 4 financial administration . So make sure she doesn't spend too long with language in the form of a course if she has some learning ability. With an MBO 2 diploma, a basic qualification, you meet both the requirements of integration, but more importantly, you also become more interesting for an employer. It doesn't matter if you got A1 or A2 or B1. They want you to be able to do something and to demonstrate that you have the drive to function in his or her company. It does require extra effort from the partner, but it yields a lot. After 2 years my ex had her MBO 2, a year before MBO 1 and also a year before MBO 2 despite the fact that she gave birth to our daughter. I have always looked for good internships, not those that pay, but where she could learn a lot at companies that look good on a CV. She has a permanent job at the Bijenkorf. Investing pays off a lot. Incidentally, F1, F2, F3 and F4 standards are used in the Netherlands thanks to the Meijerink committee. In my position I test people weekly with ICE tests and learning ability tests, and the level certainly for reading is sad for many. Hardly anyone can read and understand a longer text. I therefore stop. For A1, the Ad Appel method is very useful.
If it doesn't work with a school nearby, take a look at self-study books. For example, that of Ad Appel. It is called material for both A1 (integration abroad) and A2 (integration domestic).
See; https://www.adappelshop.nl/index.php?id_product=25&controller=product
Ad's A1 book is very solid, his assessment materials for A1 and A2 are also of good quality. Unfortunately I have no experience with the A2 study book, but given his very solid work in all other areas, my feeling tells me that you also make a good purchase with the A2 book.
Obviously self-study is not for everyone, maybe you can guide your partner yourself.
Are you looking for an integration course with a quality mark (but that only indicates that the administration is in order, whether the teachers supervise the students properly does not say anything about it!) , then take a look at http://www.blikopwerk.nl
Hi Hansest,
I am from Druten and my wife has been in the Netherlands for almost 3 years now. She went to university in Thailand and learned everything herself without a course.
She has done a lot of research on the internet and social media.
Heard only bad stories about all kinds of courses and my wife is very smart.
You can also find a lot of information on Facebook via pa sa thai = the Netherlands. A lot of other information can also be found through this group. If you are interested you can email me and I will forward you to my wife.
this way is also very cheap.
My wife passed everything in 1 go, of course you have to master self-study
[email protected].
Good luck Frank
Offtopic but dotting the i: your partner already has the residence permit (title), which takes effect as soon as your partner has arrived in the Netherlands on a valid MVV entry visa. The VVR residence card, nothing more than a plastic card, is only physical proof of this. Such a VVR card can be collected from the IND after a week or two.
The municipality (where someone must report within 5 calendar days of arrival in the Netherlands for registration in the BRP) simply sends I know the BSN by post after you. After registering with the municipality, it depends on how fast your municipality is.. can be a matter of days or weeks. In the largest cities in our country you often cannot even register within the legally stipulated 5 days (fortunately there are no consequences for a municipality that violates the law), let alone that they have completed the BSN quickly. And yes, some municipalities want to see the VVR pass immediately after arrival in the Netherlands with the MVV D visa in the passport - wrongly, because right of residence is there.
Dear Rob V.
We are already outside all legal dates. The NL embassy in BKK had forgotten to inform the IND in NL that she had collected her passport with an MVV sticker. When she was already on the plane, I started complaining. The IND then asked for a copy of her passport with an MVV sticker, and that's when everything started rolling. We will pick up the plastic card tomorrow. I did call the town hall and explained that 5 days is not feasible. They didn't make a fuss about it. And I received an email from the IND that we are not at fault.
But perhaps this is a lesson for future referees to call the IND about 2 weeks after the MVV sticker has been collected in BKK and to check whether they have been notified about collecting the passport.
Hansest
My wife did the integration course 5 years ago and went to school for it.
The course lasted 5 months and 3 hours of school each week (on the day) including about 25 hours of homework per week. That seems like a lot but you just need it.
The school where she attended is called “Ik Wil Naar Nederland” and is located in the Lunetten district of Utrecht. I received this address from previous students who had also followed their integration classes there and we were very satisfied with the personal guidance and attention, which certainly led to excellent quality. She passed her integration exam in 1x.
You come from Tiel, so that is an excellent connection by train via Geldermalsen and Culemborg. If you get off at Lunetten Utrecht station, it is a 5-minute walk from there. Good luck with the integration.
My girlfriend did this within six months via:
https://www.ikwilnaarnederland.nl/
Only ONA left, but hope that nonsense disappears soon