Looking at houses from readers (32)
My name is Willem van der Vloet (67) and I have lived with my family in Chiang Rai in the north of Thailand for about 29 years. I have been “looking at houses” with interest, albeit with a more or less professional eye.
I have admiration and appreciation for what various people, some laymen in the field of construction, have managed to achieve. Especially because it is difficult to find an experienced and structurally trained construction team in Thailand and the materials are often "C" quality or sometimes really unusable. The "good" guys usually go to Bangkok, or other big cities, where more attention is paid to the existing building standards and legal provisions, also in Thailand, and they can therefore earn a salary that better suits their knowledge and experience. .
Still, I have to say that I have seen houses pass by that, although they offer a roof over their heads, I wonder whether people really have a safe “home feeling” in those houses. By that I mean that a home should really be a place that offers people security and, together with many other things, gives life peace and security and makes it more pleasant. Furthermore, I myself consider it very important that a home should be built for life, preferably a little longer. Unless one sees a home in Thailand as staying at a European campsite or allotment garden pavilion.
There is something to be said for that in itself, by the way, but personally I think sustainability of a home is of great importance. Even if it is not so necessary for yourself, then perhaps it is for the, usually much younger partner, and the heirs, or simply because "real estate" is in fact an investment that one wants to see again sooner or later , for any reason. Although everyone really has to do what he or she wants, within the applicable rules of course, I still believe that a solid home must meet some basic rules. And that really doesn't necessarily have to cost a fortune. Comparisons with "that's just how people build here" do not work, because such houses are only a result of the often occurring poverty among many Thai farmers, which means that people help each other with the often occurring malfunctions and damage to such houses, and it is also largely pure Thai conservatism. Every Tambon is even obliged to keep a quantity of building material, including corrugated iron, in stock in order to provide immediate first aid after a collapse, breakage or other damage after a storm or accident.
For example, I noticed that some houses I saw passing by had hardly any foundations. This not only creates an unstable home, which can quickly cause cracks in walls and floors, but also allows moisture to rise far too easily and makes insect control (termites) virtually impossible. That a roof is often built with corrugated sheet, even without the widely available insulating, sound-resistant layer on the underside of those sheets. I saw that it often lacked the slightest form of wind bracing and, perhaps more so in the north of Thailand, have a construction that is hardly resistant to earthquakes.
Because in Thailand the columns in a house are load-bearing, not the walls, I was surprised about those columns that, seen from the photo, without having made any calculations, seem clearly insufficient to support the minimum required roof load. Moreover, they are columns with concrete reinforcement of a few millimetres. Fine for a fence or the like, but not as support points. Think of heavy rain, sometimes also hail, often accompanied by a heavy storm. And the great forces that are exerted on such a roof construction in varying degrees are a real challenge for such a roof. I did not see any facilities that can quickly equalize the enormous vacuum that occurs under a roof during a severe storm. As a result, those plates sometimes start to 'fly'.
Walls are often half-brick and break through during heavy rain, which causes a very damp home for months during the rainy season, where mold and rot not only make the home less attractive, but also very unhealthy living. This apart from the heat that something like this, especially in the afternoon, lets through. Also striking was the lack of mosquito screens on the windows. Often also difficult to apply if you use the traditional raw wooden frames and windows.
Professionally I have built many homes in Thailand and also some for our own family. Although we really know about mittens, things often went wrong with us. A first 2-storey house was rotated 90º and the beautiful view from the living room was gone. I was in the Netherlands during construction. Not wise. Second home lacked the finishing and implementation of pipework and electricity. No fewer than 3 construction crews were worn out on that one house. They really did their best, but there was simply not enough knowledge and experience available. This house was still sold at a very good price.
It wasn't until we started putting together and training our own construction crew, partly through vocational courses in Bangkok for plumbers, electricians and masons, that things got better. Although it remained necessary for me to supervise every job that was done on a daily basis. A concrete vibrator was invariably only hurriedly removed from the storage room when I was seen from afar on the blue motorcycle. Time after time when the concrete truck was ready to pour. Anyway, in addition to all the homes for the development of our own project “Baan Melanie” in Chiang Rai, our third home was also built with which we are now completely satisfied.
The indoor surface is: 174 m². Expanded covered, including parking space for 2 cars and an outdoor kitchen is: 142 m². So a total construction area of 316 m². The house is supported by 22 cm prestressed concrete piles. Under the floors is a crawl space with a pipe system for insect prevention. Walls are double, with a cavity, for insulation and sufficient ventilation, so a dry house. Bracing roof construction with SCG roof tiles. Painted with rot and mold resistant ICI paints.
It cost us 1,8 million Baht where we just bought and installed good tiles, sanitary and kitchen equipment. Boilers provide hot water to the kitchen and bathrooms. Windows and sliding doors are made of plasticized aluminum with an insect screen for each window and front which can be opened.
We already had the land, of course, but you actually have to count around 1,5 million Baht for a total price if you want to know a fair picture of the total costs of this house. That includes a wall around the plot and a rolling gate and grass in the garden with some plants. Please see the photos that give a better impression than what I wrote.
More data is available on request for anyone who is really interested and I am also happy to help people if they are planning to build something similar for themselves.
Preferably ask questions via our email address: [email protected]
Submitted by William
Dear reader, have you also had a house built in Thailand? Send a photo with some information and the costs to [email protected] and we post it.
Beautiful house and well thought out.
You say: Moreover, they are columns with a concrete reinforcement of a few millimeters. Fine for a fence or the like, but not as support points. Think of heavy rain, sometimes also hail, often accompanied by a heavy storm. And the great forces that are exerted on such a roof construction in varying degrees are a real challenge for such a roof. I did not see any facilities that can quickly equalize the enormous vacuum that occurs under a roof during a severe storm. As a result, those plates sometimes start to 'fly'.
However, in the village where I visit regularly, there are dozens of houses that are built like this and have already survived several heavy storms. How is that possible?
Thanks for your response Peter,
Of course those houses will stay. If they collapsed in droves, you wouldn't see such houses. The point is that such homes are often not built sustainably and a Thai often finds that unnecessary. Or it just doesn't work out financially to do it a bit more soundly. However, there are many cases where after several heavy storms, the construction works call it a day. You also often see many cracks and skews when you take a closer look. But as said, a Thai community helps each other and so it all remains quite habitable.
But let's not compare those usually simply constructed Thai-style houses with the type of construction that many Westerners desire, but are not built as such due to lack of expertise on the part of local builders, often relatives, or simply because the right material is not available in the area. . In this case I am not only talking about strength, but also in the field of safety, as applies to stairs, electricity, gas and water and, as mentioned, mold, etc.
Sincerely, William
Let me talk about the house first, beautiful house of course, built to your standards.
Beautiful photos also give a good impression of the whole. According to your information, built soundly and with craftsmanship. Everyone has their own profession, of course, but from my profession of education and communication, I would have put my comments on others on paper something else... These people are satisfied with their home and also proud that they were able to realize this in a foreign country, with a different culture of realization and construction skill. I have seen really beautiful well-kept homes in this series. Also seen that the owner / resident attaches great importance to taking good care of and dressing it. Those houses are just there, a discussion about the construction quality, with a slightly raised finger, perhaps also well-intentioned, does not do justice to the spontaneity and openness of other contributors in this section.
Finally, I wish you many years of living pleasure in your beautiful home in Chang Rai
Hi Henri,
Indeed, I have often thought about the subject you mention while writing.
I just wanted to share some experience with my writing and certainly not wave a finger. On the contrary, I hoped that the piece would be read in such a way that people who, consciously or unconsciously, have a budget home, or were simply unable to find the right people and materials, would not be bothered by some tips for the people who have yet to build.
It was also about the fact that with the modest information I gave, one can pay attention to some details if one wants to purchase such a huge investment.
Sincerely, William
Clear story, no typing error has been made in the cost statement € 48.180 for construction and € 40.150,00 for the land is very little for this quality and appearance.
If it's right, then my compliments, beautiful!
Unfortunately no floor plan drawing and indication of the number of rooms and surface area of the ground.
Bye River View,
The prices I mentioned are correct. The land area is 1 Ngan and 84 square Wah (736 M²). In addition to the spacious living room with lowered floor, the house has an open kitchen along a corridor that runs around the entire living room and provides access to all other rooms. There are 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1 study or dining room. An indoor and outdoor kitchen and outside is a storage room.
But I should note that land prices are rising quite a bit, even now in the Realty slack. The location is also very important. We ourselves live 3 km. outside Chiang Rai. Land is unaffordable in the city, just outside it costs something like 1,5 million Baht per Ngan and 10 kilometers outside the city the land costs only half. I also mentioned the price I paid and because we design, draw and build ourselves, the price is a lot lower than if we had it done by a contractor.
In my piece I didn't show construction details, but I wrote: “For anyone who is really interested there is more data available on request and I am also happy to help people if they are planning to build something similar for themselves. Questions preferably via our e-mail address: [email protected] ".
So if you want to know something or want to see the map, email me.
Kind regards, William
Another question, if a closed crawl space poses a risk for vermin, why use a cavity wall without insect prevention? In my opinion, it is better to use concrete blocks with plasterwork and insulate on the outside under plasterwork and apply a damp-proof layer on the inside. and on the outside vapor-open plasterwork with vapor-open coating.
Then a single wall is sufficient, no risk of vermin in the cavity and no moisture penetration inside.
Bye River View,
If a house has a pipeline under all floors on all foundation beams, with a spray nozzle every meter and insecticides are sprayed under a house at least annually (recommended twice a year), then there is no from termites, ants and other crawling pests. So they do not get into the cavity walls and/or even worse, not into the electricity pipes. Applying a vapour-tight layer to an interior wall is not wise, the wall must be able to "breathe" to keep a dry house. The outside must be completely vapour-tight thanks to good mortar work, often with a silicone or latex addition and a good layer of paint. Insulating is a completely different story, with many disadvantages. I usually opt for very good ventilation and a reflective foil under the roof tiles, with many ventilation openings in the roof, both below and above. All flying and crawling pests are kept out of all rooms by special screens in front of ventilation grilles and behind other openings.
Kind regards, Wim
Preventive spraying under the house is superfluous if you are not bothered and you also indicate that all insects etc. die. This is because a strong poison is used. Often it is enough to spray around the house, in addition, the remedy under the house is quite expensive, I heard 5000 baht, I don't know if that is really counted, but then the remedy is more expensive than the disease. I myself have a similar house and pipes under the house, but have never had to use the system. Doesn't seem healthy to me to sleep or live above this long-acting poison.
We have also provided a loop under the house for treatment against termites and other pests, cost 100bht for the square meter, so we paid 15.000bht, with 2 free treatments included. Subsequent treatments cost between 2 and 3000bht. You talk about long-acting poison, I don't know how this will penetrate through the foundation, screed and tiling in my house. And if it were really long-acting, regular treatment would not be necessary. I rented an apartment in Chiang Mai for a long time there. There is a monthly treatment against pests in the garden and public areas. You were notified the day before to keep windows closed that day. You can question everything, but Thailand is virtually Malaria free, partly due to these measures.
Indeed, the house looks great and perfect, but as Henri describes above, it is also the only house in Thailand that is inhabited by a foreigner that meets all standards. Incidentally, I think it's great that you can already see from the photo what is all used for building materials
In 2008 we built in Thailand and everything was completed to our complete satisfaction, partly because I have quite a bit of knowledge of construction and have been there every day. Our house also has rebar instead of paper clip iron incorporated into the concrete. Our house also has a crawl space. which is equipped with a pipe system to spray against insects. Our house also has high-quality paint. Our house has also experienced quite a few storms and the roof with the concrete Cpac roof tiles is still firmly in place. Once again:: You have worked together with your partner has built a beautiful house, but at the same time you sweep all other houses off the table because you think that everyone is just messing around with cheap junk and too thin iron and too bad paint, etc. etc. It's a shame that you think that way about all contractors in Thailand And I'm also sorry to write about you like that, but that is mainly because of the piece you submitted.
And yet the comments about systematic serious technical defects are quite justified.
A layer of piecework over it and no one will notice. Everyone happy. Sabai sabay. Sanuk sanuk. Mai pen rai.
Until the subsidence comes, the cracks, the jammed doors and windows, the concrete rot, ...
You wouldn't wish that on anyone. Any advice to avoid such a thing is in order here. The warning is a first informative step.
Messing around with poor iron braiding, poorly aerated concrete, concrete that is too wet, concrete that dries too quickly, partly underfilled floor tiles, incorrectly draining floor tiles, missing water barriers in walls, badly connected drain pipes, badly glued water pipes, … I see it again and again.
Quality craftsmanship is more the exception than the rule. The devil is in the details
Beautiful realization Johan! Congratulations and enjoy.
You have clearly built a quality home according to Belgian/Dutch standards. You have the knowledge, you have knowledge of materials and you know how to achieve results. You only had the trouble of finding correct and motivated construction workers.
Your home indeed seems to exceed the previous 19 in terms of quality. You're absolutely right, so much so that it's a bit off-putting.
You built a Mercedes E-class. The previous 19 have built from a small Fiat 500 to an Opel Insignia. This is not an accusation that you have built expensively and with high quality! The previous 19 consciously or unconsciously opted for cheaper and had less construction insights.
You should actually become the site manager of all Dutch and Belgians who want to build in Thailand 🙂
No, I have no building plans.
Thank you for your "submission".
Stefaan , Have a look at the house 17..I don't think a Fiat 500 is....And "had less building skills"... Thanks.. I do have more than 40 years of experience in building large villas..
Dear Willem, we have met a few times in a long past.
By visiting Gert and Deng.
I read your story above.
But what I can't agree with is that the good guys leave for Bangkok.
We know good guys in management who left Bangkok because they could no longer see the messy work there.
Construction projects that are not carried out according to the specifications and drawing and building regulations.
Corruption during construction.
A young supervisor whose parents live in our village and who had studied engineering at Uni has therefore chosen a different field of study.
She to his mother I'm afraid I'll kill someone.
My wife's cousin, a good professional, had also been foreman of a construction team in Bangkok and got into drinking because of this.
Do you really believe that all those two-room condos that cost 8 million and more in Bangkok and other well-known cities here in Thailand, and were built by underpaid Burmese, are rock solid?
Suvarnabhumi airport is a very good example.
Who builds an airport in a swamp and then also with a lot of glass in one of the hottest cities in the world.
The result was disappointing, and once again there are problems with the runways.
And everywhere you come here I see enough messy work around me, government buildings, hospitals and shopping centers and fancy shopping malls.
In all the years that I have lived here, my spouse and I have already shown several bunglers the door.
One team was even able to work on our barn project for only two days.
I asked in the morning on the moped to the ATM to pay them before 08.00 for two days of tinkering.
I met the first ones on the way home, my husband had already spent the money we had at home to pay out a few.
New team wanted all walls of those gray cement blocks demolished and started again.
I have learned a lot here, but with trial and error you eventually get to a good result.
At our house I sent the main contractor out after 3 months, he was good at drawing dolls, but he had no knowledge of guidance and practice.
We were present every day to manage and guide things and to cooperate ourselves .
The team that built the walls of the Sereneblocks taught my spouse and I how to do it.
The advantage is that you also get control over the cash flow, I would like to know where my hard work and hard-earned money will go someday.
For me a main contractor in Thailand never again.
Jan Beute.
By the way, I have one more question.
That house with interior without furniture in the photos that we see here is your new home where you live or will live in yourself .
Or is that a house that has now been completed and is for sale in one of your projects on the Melanie track in Changrai.
Jan Beute.
Hi Jan,
Indeed, there is a lot of shoddy work being done. But it is difficult to write about that, because it is in itself a very good achievement that many were still able to achieve something with limited resources that were available locally or due to budgetary constraints.
Your home could also appeal to many, send some data and photos of it. It helps others who are still working here to orient themselves and want to start building.
The house described in my article is fully furnished and there were photos of all rooms fully furnished, but I sent about 60 photos, of which the editors logically made a selection.
We own two houses. I have chosen to give some data, prices and details of a most common house with 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms with an indoor and an outdoor kitchen and a spacious terrace.
I will make another entry later where we tell a bit about our other home and show pictures. The other house has a swimming pool, sala and some outbuildings.
Sincerely, William
Everyone builds as he pleases and no one should take good advice in gratitude.
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I find it very hard to believe that this beautiful house has only 1.8 million baht gost 😉
Hi Gilbert,
I'm sorry you find it hard to believe what I've written. But you may not take into account that I designed, drew and built this house myself. So no need for a contractor. That saves a sip on a drink. By the way, I have a BOQ of this property. So if you are really interested in the details and want to know the prices of all materials used and subcontractor, I could send you this list of specifications via an e-mail address. My email address is: [email protected]
Kind regards, Wim
Without a doubt a beautiful house, very solidly built, as you describe
and where you can enjoy living for many years to come .
Although living with pleasure is also possible in a sod hut.
Also well thought out is a beautiful indoor kitchen and an outdoor kitchen.
Life in Thailand is more outdoors than indoors,
sitting outside doesn't really look inviting in the picture
But, may have changed over the years,
inside each case looks beautifully finished
Have fun living
Dear Willem,
I think it's a beautiful house, beautifully finished.
I take a quick look at the surface when everything is furnished, things get cramped.
As for the concrete posts, there are of course different types of quality.
Our roof is made of a steel frame and has a span of 150
square meters plus extension of kitchen, shower and toilet, which is 200 square meters
makes.
This is without posts in the middle to support the construction.
I did this with fairly thin piles of high quality reinforced concrete
that the weight flows to the side.
It's not the pomp and circumstance but making use of what Thailand has to offer.
I myself don't have such a big one at all the houses on this blog and also in my area
seen overvoltage.
Soon I will send our house and construction with substantiated story.
I'm building it right now, but surprise.
Yours faithfully,
Erwin
Dear Willem,
PS 3,3 mil. Bath seems closer to me.
Regards, Erwin
Dear Stephen,
I'm sorry, you saw one house that was beautiful and according to you, the other 19 were built with cheaper materials and less construction insight. You're completely wrong here, kid.
Thank you for the people who have accepted the courage and challenge to realize "their cozy nest", in consultation with wife or girlfriend, with one stroke of the pen into the ground.
When my Thai wife asked me what our house should look like, I gave her complete freedom and with expertise she conducted the entire opera like an accomplished conductor, taking into account the appearance to the outside world. I am very proud of “my conductor”
Our house is the way we like it and certainly not comparable to a Fiat 500
By the way, may I point out that a Mercedes E-class also needs regular maintenance, or you will soon find yourself in the garage with it.
Hereby, equally good reaction friends.
Regards,
Dre and Ketaphat
Oh, I forgot to report, our house is on "look house" (3)
Big house and I presume to read, well built.
But some comments. A simple kitchen that a Dutch woman wouldn't lose sleep over, a bit of execution 20 years ago. Bathroom, also saved on the shower area. I don't think it would be very convenient to have a shower over the bath. Always climbing in and out becomes more difficult with age. Why not a separate modern shower cabin. There seems to be enough room in the house.
I am not writing this to criticize jealously. Anything but that. Just think that with new construction you should pay attention to such parts of the house. It gives your house cachet and added value.
Beautiful and recognizable story.
House looks good and now we are building and what misery and hassle, almost nothing can go right.
Continuous attention, ignorance, sloppy, etc.
Have built 4 houses in the Netherlands, but have never experienced anything like this.
Unfortunately I am in the Netherlands and my partner supervises, but nevertheless.
And the ones we've had and are still there, keeping agreements is difficult.
But this is the mentality and cannot be changed.
Hello William,
Nice house you have. Good to see that it is possible to build a sustainable house in Thailand. Hopefully my wife and I will build a sustainable house in Thailand within a few years. I have already noted your email address and I hope to be able to call on you in due course.
A lot of writing back and forth.
Because I plan to settle in Thailand in 2022, I am absorbing all the information, especially about architectural issues.
Plan to buy land and then build. Always amazed at the use of non-pre-torqued rebar when I saw it.
I would like to ask a few questions about my ideas and will use the email address provided.
I also design and do the contractor work myself. And use a good computer program to help you with it.
And just like everyone who likes this section, who knows that it is always sunny in NL/BE on Funda, I wonder: Are most, or even all, images selected here "by the editors" real photos, or from your design program?
May, because it looks good, but in my opinion also super digitally sterile. So would also like to see something "lively" like all previous posts in this series, or a side note to it.
A beautiful house without a doubt. But I still take the liberty to make some critical comments.
It is again assumed that people cannot build in Thailand. They can do this very well. With minimal costs and they do not have a large income, they see an opportunity to build a shelter for their family that can withstand most storms. Our daughterb built a nice house, where I can even live comfortably, for approximately 5000 thb m2. They also have completely different requirements for a home than we spoiled farang.
Your house looks like it was built several years ago. In 2008 you got almost 17 thb more for one Euro than now. That saves those who now have building plans about 30%.
Then some comments about the house. Despite your experience in villa construction, it strikes me that, as mentioned before, it has a minimalist bathroom. And Thai cuisine.
I wish you a lot of fun in your palace.
Nice house, I've seen the pictures somewhere on the internet of this house.
A beautiful house to see with solid materials in the finish.
The kitchen without a recessed plinth does not seem to me to be very nice if you have to work on it a lot, especially if you are tall, standing then becomes very tiring.
I also look with surprise at the execution and quality of the construction in Thailand, family of ours has a resort and many contractors and staff have been sent away during the construction of bungalows. The quality and details at the pool were also clearly visible after a year and renovations had to take place again, but of course everything also has a price. Without proper construction supervision, you take many risks if you are going to carry it out in your own hands without architectural knowledge.
But there are also wooden and stone houses that are hundreds of years old, so not everything is bad.
Unfortunately, construction in Thailand lacks a lot of technical professionals, but that is no different in the Netherlands now.
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Broadly speaking, you are right Willem van der Vloet' You see many houses with cracks and defects, and this is because the project developers do not allow themselves time for the raised earth to settle' or come up with cheap quick ways to earn money quickly! (Revolution Building) So that the relevant owners of these homes are left with permanent problems and a financial hangover! But it can also be done differently'… our contractor friend, has had a conversation with Bouw en Woningtoezicht in Udon Thani (town hall) (Ampur') to build my Mega Japanese Hollywood house (looking at houses number 2 in this beautiful series) The existing building plans are adjusted by Bouw en Woningtoezicht, with their stamp' of approval And have made many new blueprints of the Mega building' So that everything was done professionally and expertly to get this big job done! With samples, when making this project with material knowledge and consultation with the contractor' So that a new owner always has a guarantee and certainty to purchase a good professional / quality house! My Tip' is therefore discuss this with your contractor, to have good blueprints checked by Building and Housing Inspectorate in your city or municipality! This can save a lot of annoyance'
Peter,
Hello Pieter. I am in Udon and will soon be dealing with a good contractor. Can you give me his contact? Thanks. Pierre.
Dear Pierre,
Have you heard anything about a good contractor / builder?
I am going to start building a house near Udonthani this year.
We already have a professional for the foundation and roof, but no professionals yet for the walls (aerated concrete), electricity and water!
Looking forward to your experience,
Kind regards, Arnold
Arnold
Can you email me E-mail – [email protected] MVG Pieter
Hi Pierre
Can you email me? [email protected]
Pierre
Can you email me? E-mail [email protected]
Regards Peter
Beautiful house, where the solidity in the photos already radiates! I don't read the entry with a raised finger at other home builders at all. It's all neatly worded and I read it more as sincere advice and possible warning to future builders.
Beautiful house and if I ever carry out the plan to spend my old age in Thailand, then this is something that would please me, although a swimming pool in the garden might not be a superfluous luxury, while we're at it
Dear Willem,
My compliments for this beautiful home, it looks very good.
I was wondering if your cavity wall is insulated from the inside like in the Netherlands and what is the advantage of a crawl space in Thailand?
Sincerely,
Arnie
awesome. ALSO my taste, clean and not too much “fuss””.
A very stylish house! In particular the overall design, the exterior colors (also contrasts nicely with the dark window frames), the very beautiful flat stones of the loose pillars, the color and size of the tiles in the bathroom. I have a question and a comment, the question is why are there no rain gutters on the roof, it doesn't seem nice during (heavy) rain showers. The comment is that I would not easily opt for a lowered seating area, I don't think it is that nice and it also does not seem practical, but this is of course very personal.
William, Beautiful house. Congratulations. That has clearly been thought about. Completely agree with your view of the “Thai” way of building. But hardly dare to mention this on this blog ……..as the readers often react emotionally and not rationally.
Congratulations
What strikes me is that most houses are in a stone desert, hardly any trees, trees provide coolness.
Also all driveways full of concrete. Why not gravel, as I always do, better for water drainage
Hello William,
Your email: [email protected] unfortunately it doesn't work.
Do you have other contact information?