Dear readers,

I hear a lot of complaints about the rate, dear Baht. But I never hear anyone talk about the Greek affair. The euro has taken its first big hit, Reuters reports after the start of the new trading week in Asia and Australia.

In Asia Pacific, where the stock markets are now open after the Greek hectic weekend, the euro fell 2% against the US dollar to even below $1,10. The euro also lost ground against the Japanese yen.

If the reaction on the stock markets in Asia is anything but a first indication of what lies ahead in Europe today, it does not bode well.

Source: Telegraaf

Regards,

Bob

25 Responses to “Reader Submission: Euro Takes a Blow in Asia!”

  1. Michel says up

    I don't know where this panic Info is coming from, but from $1.1087 Friday to $1.1062 right now I think is a normal drop for Monday morning. It's picking up again at the moment.
    Also compared to the Bath, the decrease of € 0,027 is not something to start scaffolding from.
    Again screaming panic for nothing.
    Showing the bastards how bad a Grexit would be for the economy.

  2. Barbara says up

    panic info??? The Greek banks are closed for at least a week and if a Grexit is imminent, the euro can and will take a huge hit. That is the general expectation and that seems a logical consequence to me. The European stock markets are now between 4 and 14% down.
    Very curious how this will end

    • john mak says up

      Barbara where do you get it from that the stock markets have fallen to 14%, this is really panicking nothing, the stock markets are losing up to 3%

  3. Rob says up

    Dear All,

    These are always the first 'startle reactions'. This effect always intensifies. Then everything stabilizes again. You will see more fluctuations, but in not too long everything will have stabilized again.

    Of course you keep a euro that is worth less than some time ago, but that has a different cause and that comes from the ECB Rob

  4. Ruud says up

    Dear Bob,

    The uncertainty is the time for speculators to use or even manipulate stock markets.
    The economies of Europe and in particular Germany and the Netherlands are growing, which lays a solid foundation for Europe.
    It is a pity that the ECB and the EU have not used tougher language against Greece (as told by the IMF). We want to solve it humanely but speak to a blank wall.

    Greece is playing a game (play) because they won the elections with certain promises they cannot keep.
    Now they are looking for a way to solve this in a neat way. It's a referendum
    Democracy: Let the people decide which boat they want to get on.

    If this is to the advantage of the Euro, the cabinet may resign (read gain time).
    I think many Greeks now understand that leaving the Euro means a complete disaster and indirectly also for Germany (I believe 90 billion), so they have to meet all the requirements.

    The Euro will come out on top, be it with or without Greece.
    The big question will be will many non-Europeans still have faith in the Euro, such as China, USA.
    Another major problem is the disparity in tax systems between European countries.
    We are still a long way from unity, but Greece is just a wrinkle in the world economy and the bucket has already cost more than 300 billion (in my opinion)

    But I expect another 2 stormy weeks on the stock markets and then things will just go in the right direction, provided no major natural disasters happen.

  5. Ivo says up

    I wouldn't worry yet, early this year analysts predicted a depreciation of the euro against the dollar of 20-30% for September. And we're not there yet. I had already exchanged dollars for Cambodia (baht not interesting due to the big difference with the Netherlands), but had not really been necessary

  6. tonny says up

    Source, of course the telegraaf. always make it worse if it is.

    • Jack G . says up

      I think the price of the Telegraaf share will drop considerably, I can also say. Carnage for the Telegraaf's course. After the dismissal of the editor-in-chief, this may well be the death blow for De Telegraaf. The reporting is a bit too gory for me. It seems as if they are eager for a crisis. But it's not my paper style wise. But many Dutch people consider it a top newspaper. I thought for a while about the weekend that 5 billion tax reduction for the Dutch BV will soon be little left. There is also positive news. The interest that the BV NL has to pay for its government loans has become a lot lower again. A lower Euro is also good for exports. In recent times, many companies have worked overtime to meet the export demand to non-Euro countries.

  7. Fransamsterdam says up

    At the weekend I got 37.55 Baht for one euro at TT exchange in Pattaya and now, Monday 16.00 local time 37.23. About 0.8% off. Not really earth shattering.
    And my suspicion is that Europe will eventually – under 'very strict conditions' (ahem) – come up with the money. In the current (geo)political situation, friend Barack thinks it is undesirable for Greece to become a plaything of the waves. We have to wait for a phone call from him and then Europe will fall to its knees.

  8. support says up

    Just had a look, but the Euro/TBH exchange rate had fallen 0,2%. That is something different than 2%! The Greece drama (or farce?) will certainly ripple some, but as it accounts for about 1,3% of the EU economy, this should not be exaggerated either.

    I predict that referendum will result in a “yes” to measures imposed by Troika and that new elections will then be held in Greece. Tsipras will then be punished and the new government will simply implement the measures of Troika.

    And if Tsipras is going to implement the measures himself after a yes to the referendum, then he will have unnecessarily "occupied" everyone for 5-6 months and will therefore become an unserious negotiator for the future.

  9. realist says up

    It was to be expected that the euro would come under some pressure if the Greeks could not agree to the conditions that the European leaders had put on the table.
    The Baht has also received some of this, but that is not too bad so far.
    I expect this to be different at the end of this year.
    I expect that the euro and dollar will be in the US pair after the rate hikes, which means we will get about 34 baht for a euro, we'll see.
    Yes and then Greece.
    Tsipras found the imposed conditions difficult to swallow and wanted to submit the deal to the Greeks themselves through a referendum.
    Much against the will of the European leaders who subtly stated that the support program would end on Tuesday, which would mean that Greece would be officially in default at that time.
    A matter of increasing the pressure.
    At first sight you think this is the end for Greece.
    But in Europe, things are rarely what they seem.
    This is all bluff poker at the very highest level and I really wouldn't be surprised if a white rabbit can still come out of the hat.
    A first option, for example, is that Europe takes over the debts of the IMF and weakens the conditions somewhat.
    The second option is that somehow Syriza is pushed aside and the opposition comes back into the picture. That would require elections.
    And a final option is that the Greek population simply votes “yes” in the referendum.
    Such a 'yes' vote does not seem inconceivable to me, given that this week the population is getting a taste of what a Grexit would mean in the short term.
    A negative vote would wipe out any remaining savings and force the banks into bankruptcy.
    So it can still go either way with the Greek soap.
    realist

  10. Cor van Kampen says up

    During the course of the day, the Euro recovered reasonably well. Price Kasikorn bank almost 37.
    It could also be that if a rotten apple is picked from the tree, the rest of the van
    the apples will grow better.

    Cor van Kampen.

  11. self says up

    As expected for today, markets opened lower, then recovered. http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/4077678/aex-opent-4-procent-lager-escalatie-griekse-crisis.html

    It's all going to work out. The euro will take some hits, but neither the EC in Brussels nor the ECB in Frankfurt will allow things to escalate. There will be a referendum in Greece next Sunday, July 5. The people are allowed to speak out, now that the far-left government of Alexis Tsipras is cowardly placing the responsibility for the failure of the negotiations on the ordinary man and woman in the street, who suffered blow after blow. In addition, quickly intimidate the people with negative voting advice.

    If the Greeks say YES to Europe and the Euro, and they will, there will be elections, then a pro-EWuropa government and then reforms in accordance with the will of the IMF. If the Greeks say NO, they may join the list of Balkan states, become an Eastern European country, with the influence and support of Russia. Note: that's not going to happen.

    Will the whole tragedy hurt Europe and the Euro? They become pinpricks. Maybe there's some hard squeezing here and there, but bruises? No, not going to happen either. Mario Draghi, head of the ECB, announced on July 21, 2012 that he would do 'whatever it takes' to save the Euro. He meant that the ECB can buy government bonds without limits from euro countries that are under attack on the financial markets. And you better believe that this will happen if it proves necessary, although many economists know that simply pronouncing a measure like this usually restores calm to the financial markets. Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outright_Monetary_Transactions

    Whatever Comboy stories about the Euro one comes up with: it simply stands.

    The Nation already reported today that the Euro is simply holding up, note: the Baht is falling back: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Confidence-in-euro-maintained-despite-chaos-30263344.html

    Alzo: let's not make it crazier than it is. The gentlemen in Brussels leave everything as it was, then raise a large glass and then take a pee! And so it is!

    • janbeute says up

      Have yet to see if your story will go this way.
      Unfortunately , I did not enter the mighty US Dollar in time .
      Euro I am not so sure , nor about the whole EU .
      Many cultures and mentalities collected in one coin .
      German and Northern European culture and work ethics are not the same as in the South and East of Europe.
      You could even compare countries like Spain, Italy and Greece with Thailand and Indonesia.
      Who lives now who cares .

      Jan Beute.

  12. ruud says up

    Perhaps the Euro will simply rise if Greece exits the Euro and converts its debt in Euros 1 to 1 into Neo-Drachmes, which immediately plummet in value.
    After all, then the European countries will have to take their losses, which will increase the national debt.
    Then they will probably also have to pay a higher interest on their loans.
    That could then be favorable for the exchange rate of the Euro.

  13. janbeute says up

    I was at the Krungsri ( BAY ) bank today .
    Here, too, the euro had fallen below 37 .
    Last week the price was around 38 plus.
    Read today in the financial news that the US Dollar is rising again against the Bath .
    That's why I'm afraid of the whole Greek tragedy, because it certainly is.
    It will also cost us the people who live in Thailand a lot of money as the Euro will be hit hard again.
    This week will be another exciting week for permanent or long-term visitors to Thailand.
    But from my point of view, the entire country of Greece can be stolen from me.
    THE WINDOW .
    But next week we will see how it turns out and who will be right , so see you next week .

    Jan Beute.

  14. Christina says up

    Hello Jan, and Readers, just in the news at 19.00 pm June 29 the Greeks are not going to pay. Trying to go to the bank tomorrow. I want to borrow but don't worry about paying back. Now you can't get away with that, it has already cost every Dutchman 1000 euros. Now it should be over and not help.

    • support says up

      Christine,
      You pretend it's news. haven't you been paying attention for the past few months? The purpose of the entire discussion in Brussels was precisely to lend the Greeks extra money for the repayment of Tuesday next. to make possible. Now that the Greeks have not received that new loan, they cannot repay the current loan.

      So it's a matter of NOT being able to! So that was already clear. However?

  15. Michel says up

    As I expected, the euro just bounced back, closing even higher than Friday. See http://www.superrichthai.com, where you now get 37.35 per €. Was 37,30 Friday night.

    The ecb wants us to think that we cannot go on without Greece. We can even do very well without the ecb and/or EU.

  16. eddy from Ostend says up

    the more the euro falls, the better for Europe's exports. This is an economic reality that must be taken into account. Exports are the oxygen of our economy and we all benefit from it.

  17. Daniel says up

    In the overall financial system, the write-down of Greek debt has long since been made. No one believes that this money will come back. Basically, all EU countries are equally guilty of these problems, only the weakest(s) have to suffer. I see the euro as a football game where we don't agree on any rules, during the game party A says we've won, party B the game isn't even over yet. The euro is also set up without rules, until the crisis, now there is more to hold on to.

    Yet the euro has only dropped minimally in the past 24 hours, this also has a lot to do with the adjustment of the Chinese interest rate, which has caused the baht to lose value again. As a result, the Baht-Euro exchange rate has hardly changed, while the USD-EUR exchange rate has changed.

    The only thing that is important now is recovery (rest and no uncertainties) in the system, after that everything will recover further. Things are already moving in the right direction in many EU countries.

  18. Mr. Bojangles says up

    The only reason why Greece is not allowed to leave the EU is that the gentlemen of European politicians will then lose face. And of course that is not allowed. It will make very little difference to the economy of the rest of Europe. Oh yes, of course that shouldn't become clear either… Something about 1st sheep and dam and so on.

  19. Rudi says up

    It is always “the Greeks”.
    Nobody seems to realize that the money they receive to restart their economy actually flows back to the (Northern) European banks.
    90% of it! Only 10% benefits “the Greeks”….

    “the Greeks” must repay capital + interest at 100%.
    People should be more critical of the banks – including Dutch and Belgian ones.
    At the time it was far too easy to lend money, there was a lot to earn from those emergency loans.
    Then the banks realize that they have taken too much risk and are now forcing the common people in Greece to pay for their mistake. Because who are heavily represented in the IMF, the Central European Bank, ...?
    Right, those same banks.

    Which does not alter the fact that politics in Greece has messed up for years, but why should 'John-with-the-cap' have to pay for it again?

  20. theos says up

    This morning at 5 am the Euro/Baht rate was 37.73- Has been this rate all week, up or down.

  21. self says up

    What Greece is struggling with due to mismanagement by previous governments is a mountain of debts to foreign countries. After self-enrichment by politicians of friends no longer succeeded (2010: following the global banking crisis started in 2008, the budget figures deliberately passed on to the EC turned out to have been embellished), Greek budget models, payment and benefit systems and structures were rearranged, lumped together and bundled. The Greeks were given the opportunity to pay off their debts with new loans. Please note: this entire installment scheme has been going on since 2010. From 2010 it also appears that the ordinary Greek population suffers enormously, but also: that the Greek middle class now has more than 30 billion Euros (30 with 9 zeros) from the ATMs under their mattress. Not to mention the Greek high(er) class and their connections in Russia and Turkey.

    Nieuwsuur, last night, reported that the EU provided 255 billion euros to GR, of which NL has a share of 19 million. Of that return: 17 ml, still outstanding: 2 ml euro.
    ECB lent 150 million, of which the Dutch part amounted to 7,5 million euros
    The NL private sector came across the bridge with 17,5 ml, back 15,5, credit 2 ml.

    These types of payments have also been made with other EU countries.

    The effects on the Dutch economy are moderate. For example, exports with GR by NL only amount to 460 million euros, so less than half a milliars.

    The ECB already announced in 2012 that it would take measures if countries threaten to run into difficulties due to a Grexit, see my earlier response.

    The EC/EU is concerned that GR will succeed in economic reconstruction after a Grexit. Suppose that in 2020 GR manages to set up a flourishing economy with the drachma, independent of the EU with its own course, then this could set a precedent for other Southern European countries, for example. Portugal, for example, but also Ireland have been under a lot of pressure in recent years, so if a different plan is possible, why not? Italy, Spain, even France are also potential working areas of the IMF. These countries now see what method the IMF uses. But also how harsh Northern European countries can be, and how unsympathetic, for example the Netherlands. It affects the pensions of the ordinary Greek man and woman, just as the euro also affects those of TH pensioners.

    By the way: last Friday the euro stood at 37,22 at BKB, yesterday at 36,72, and now at 37,26.


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