Damn, that face mask won't stay on...
Hua Hin Beach (Photo: Nellie Gillesse)
The disadvantage of hoarding is that you have to go out again and again to replenish the stock. Or have to buy things that you forgot the previous times. So then into the deep end, the face mask on the nose and to Market Village in Hua Hin. Only that damn face mask won't stay on, too small for a big farang bakkes.
You don't have to be in a mall right now for recreational shopping. In any case, the first possible moment of contact with Corona has been prevented, because when you enter the parking garage you will no longer receive a pass and you can continue driving. Do not go upstairs, because all floors are closed. There is sufficient space on the ground floor and you can park outside yourself. The customer is king (only he is not there right now…)
An unreal impression. Checking temperature, gel hands and navigate the fences that declare the rest of Market Village a forbidden area. Buying a new shirt or a pair of shoes is no longer an option. Nor a new phone. What to do when the old one gives up the ghost?
Parking at Market Village in Hua Hin (Photo: Nellie Gillesse)
Only the pharmacy and bakery are open and of course Tesco Lotus. Where clothing is otherwise sold at the escalators, you can now order groceries in a Christmas decor. The store probably didn't have anything else in the warehouse. But even Tesco cannot escape a loss of turnover, because all aisles with non-food have been cordoned off by order of the provincial government. Only food is on sale, sometimes with nice discounts. The interest is not too great. Staff and customers wear face masks, but mine keeps sliding down. Not really a problem, because there are hardly any customers in sight. Exceptionally, everything I'm looking for is also in stock.
A problem is the stripes on the floor, which I also encountered yesterday at my 7-Eleven. It reminds me of the hopscotch his sister used to play in her youth. In the absence of arrows, tacking is blown. Maybe they will come. The distance to the cashier is less than one and a half meters, but there is no other way. Outside, in the car, wipe everything again with an alcohol wipe. After all, you can never know.
We witnessed a weak government policy here, to say the least. Examples legion.
Hordes of Chinese, also from Wuhan, which was already highly infected, were flown in at a rate of 19 planes per day until the end of January. A tourist topper for virus spread.
Only a fraction of the Phi Noi returning from South Korea went into quarantine for 2 weeks. The rest went elsewhere to spread the virus.
The army itself, after this had already been banned by the government, organized a boxing tournament where many people were beaten up. It was widely reported in the media, partly because many invited VIPs from the so-called better circles were infected there.
Stricter control measures were announced by the government summit days before coming into effect. It brought about real population movements. Again with the result of extremely efficient virus spread.
We now see that efficient concrete measures are also being taken in Thailand to avoid Covid19 contamination. Hans Bos describes a number of them.
A very positive evolution that will save human lives … hopefully yours and mine too.
I'm back from Hua Hin on the 26th after the village and the big head of the village,
came right by and said, my wife and I,
must now stay in the house for 14 days.
Fortunately we have a very large garden and I have plenty to do.
But what I just want to say for Mark:
The Netherlands now has 1037 deaths and Thailand 10
and on top of that , Thailand has almost four times as many inhabitants !
Apparently the measures here are much better than in the Netherlands.
@ Chris van het Dorp: I am Belgian and will no longer make statements about the Dutch Covid19 policy here on this blog. The inter-EU discussions about the positioning of “Hollanda” speak for themselves.
The numbers don't say much for 2 reasons.
The figures mainly say something about measuring, not about knowing. After all, not measuring is not knowing. Handy for political propaganda, erm sorry official government communication...
A 2nd element to put figures into perspective is the classification of data. You can honestly register a Covid19 death as a death due to pneumonia.
Personally, I think that the European positioning sometimes proves to be very correct. Rutte and Merkel would do well to put the handbrake on the demand for eurobonds. The Netherlands also shows itself from a closer view. https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/303766157/rutte-eu-fonds-voor-coronacrisis Belgium is nowhere near in that position.https://www.hln.be/nieuws I will not make any “commnunitaire” statements, but strikes by the police and/or supermarket workers will not really help things forward.
@Chris van het village: Of course, anything and everything can be said about the Netherlands, but the transparency displayed today by the House of Representatives seems unthinkable to me in Thailand. In addition, according to the latest figures, the infection is on a downward trend. The fact that the number of ICU beds is currently causing concern will result in an expansion of capacity. The fact that a concept such as solidarity is given substance in the Netherlands does not apply to Thailand either.
I am not going to say what is right or wrong in this. Listening to the opinion of other people, more familiar with European politics, can also have added value for the Netherlands(ers).
https://vrtnws.be/p.DxyPMenL0
Passing the hat around in the EU for me would also be a derogatory affront.
In programs such as Terzak and De Afspraak, a variety of professors are presented every evening, which presentation last night turned out to be not only confused in terms of content. In the land of Vos, the northern part also likes to see the bottom of the begging bowl. So he had no right to speak.
The fact that fewer IC beds are (needed) per capita in the Netherlands compared to other countries, has everything to do with the 'medical' philosophy in Dutch health care.
Some patients are no longer treated in the Netherlands for various reasons: the patient's situation is hopeless, the treatment is very difficult. the chance that the patient dies from the treatment is greater than that he/she will recover or the patient does not want to be treated anymore. In those cases, an attempt is made to combat the pain of the patient as much as possible and to let him/her die in a dignified manner. I think that everyone knows such cases in their own family and circle of acquaintances. I do in any case.
This approach is impossible in other countries such as Italy and Spain. There everything is done, at all costs (literally), to save the life of EVERY patient and to prolong it as long as possible. And yes, then you need more facilities: beds, staff, equipment, money. It is not surprising that asking for money with this philosophy clashes with the medical views in the Netherlands and Germany. Has little to do with a lack of solidarity or blunt unwillingness.
I don't think this corona outbreak will change the philosophy that much. Perhaps more flexibility will be organised.
Chris, as far as the Netherlands is concerned, your statement is correct, but in Germany they also try to save almost 'everyone':
“In Germany, doctors have to do everything they can to make patients better,” explains professor of geriatrics Hans Jürgen Heppner. “Anyone who has a chance of survival, young or old, should be able to go to the ICU. That is only possible if there are enough beds and medical resources.
- https://nos.nl/artikel/2328874-waarom-nederland-vergeleken-met-andere-landen-weinig-ic-bedden-heeft.html
If it is indeed an Italian political choice to have and maintain such a system, then it is up to them to ensure that it is affordable. Italy would do well to scratch their heads to see if they don't overplay their hand.
It has nothing to do with the 'medical philosophy' in Dutch healthcare, chris. It has to do with an open and honest conversation between doctor and patient, in which the patient ultimately decides. That is the 'medical philosophy' in the Netherlands. If a patient wants to be treated to the bitter end, that usually happens. Of course, it also happens that the doctor has to make a decision himself, but only if that is the only option, and then often in consultation with the family.
Is all deaths as corona deaths a good figure to measure, as in the Netherlands?
Apparently there are no more flu deaths, heart failures, etc. in the Netherlands
Because apparently everyone is infected with corona in the Netherlands.
In Italy, every dead person who is also infected is also registered as a corona dead person.
Let me say of course every death is one too many, but so are the traffic deaths and yes everyone dies once.
Keep your distance and stick to the rules that the government is now imposing on you. But don't panic either.
Figures from both the Netherlands and Thailand are not reliable because little testing is done. Comparing these numbers is pointless. Don't draw conclusions at all.
Van Dissel: Comparing corona approach makes little sense
It makes little sense to compare Dutch corona policy and the severity of the crisis with other countries on the basis of the mortality figures that are now being reported, says Jaap van Dissel (RIVM) to the House of Representatives.
“The figures that are now reported in different countries, just like in the Netherlands, depend on how testing is done.” Because all countries test differently, and often do not test at all for people who have died, the figures provide too little information.
Van Dissel says that it only makes sense to start comparing again when all data about deceased patients is known and properly registered. This includes the chosen treatment, the duration of the treatment and underlying complaints.
Dear Chris
If you live in Thailand you should know that the government there can lie better.
Yes, the face mask, there is no escape at times. I bought my first one last week, a colorful – and neat – fabric copy. Put it on for the first time a day later and immediately turned it off again - I couldn't breathe! It turned out that 2 thick layers of tightly woven fabric with lining material behind each layer had been used, so I had to suck my air through a total of 4 layers and that didn't work... I just cut a few large holes in the inner 2 layers, without those holes it was completely unusable.
Did you expect something better under “Thai Technology”?
Still, I found the control measures better in Thailand than in Belgium.
We flew on 30/3 from Krabi via Bangkok to Brussels with the last Thai Airways flight.
Twice in Krabi and twice in Bangkok we were checked for body temperature, not that that says everything but it does give a sense of security.
At Brussels Airport you will receive a letter stating the measures in force in four languages, but nothing else, no control, no registration.
A flight from Rome had just arrived on the baggage carousel for us. Same scenario. Italy is one of the hardest hit countries. In Bangkok, on the other hand, all foreign arrivals were screened and registered.
Dear Unkelwin,
I find what you write strange, since your compatriots spit bile on the Dutch approach.
Apparently the Belgian approach is so much better, if I have to believe anything.
What also bothers me personally about this is that in southern Europe people complain about solarity. For every problem, northern Europe must have solarity, but it is not acceptable to make fun of themselves, and they could also take action against those football clubs. or spend millions on footballers.