Thai perverts
Without generalizing, I can say that a lot ภาษาไทย are perverts, without any understanding of the environment. Waste oil disappears without embarrassment into the sewer and bottles, cans and plastic bags go straight over the wall. Which, by the way, is neatly raked on the front….
Even in a big city like Bangkok, with an excellent garbage collection service (40 cents a month), we find piles of garbage or debris everywhere. Often there is also a sign that it is forbidden to deposit anything there. Many street restaurants happily participate in the pollution. Food scraps disappear straight into the well or over the wall, where cockroaches and rats feast on them. The waiting is then for a Thai who tries to set the dirt on fire. This rarely succeeds due to the humidity, after which the mountain sometimes lies smoldering for weeks. Fine dust? Diesel particulate filter? Grease trap? The Thai first looks at you in amazement, then smiles and says: 'Mai penrai…' It doesn't matter!
Well, it does, although the Thai will find out in the future. You can hardly smoke anywhere anymore, but that rule does not apply to very old diesel buses or even older trucks. With all the consequences for public health.
And be economical with light and water? Well, it doesn't cost anything, the average Thai shouts and casually lets the air conditioning run at home when he goes shopping. Not to mention the engines running when mothers go to pick up the kids from school. Oh well, it costs nothing...
Anyone who thinks they can enjoy themselves on quiet beaches such as Rayong or the southern Phangan will quickly come to the conclusion that the main reason for the silence is the overpopulation of plastic bags. On a boat trip to the famous and once idyllic James Bond Island, you're guaranteed to come across a few hundred. The biggest problem is that many marine animals think that these are edible jellyfish.
We can go on like this for a while. The garbage litany is definitely endless. Perhaps royal intervention is the right solution here. Every Thai should not sweep his own street, but that of his neighbour.
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Pollution will only increase if the government does not put a stop to it. I have been coming to Thailand for ten years and there is no improvement. However, in the countryside (Isaan) the population is dealing with the pollution problem better. The pollution will certainly affect the tourist visit.
Let's hope there is improvement in sight.
If they start with the children in the schools, make them aware of the environment, but yes, they go with the parents here and there, have picnics, and what do they see?? When driving back home, the waste remains there.
I live in the Isaan, in the middle of the rice fields, at the weekend many Thai people come to seek refreshment in the water, which is the canal in front of my domain, normally to provide the fields with water for the rice plantation, that water comes of the Ubolratana dam, you know, now with Songkran the channel was full of water, otherwise only on weekends, one day, and they close again.
They leave all the rubbish lying around, and are not yet ashamed when I ask to clean everything up, they look at me with big eyes oei what does that FARANG say? It also brings vermin, but they are not aware of that because they don't live there anyway.
Shall I leave my rubbish with them, and also look up when they ask me…clean that up.
In the countryside it is sometimes even worse!
Recently had a big party at the temple near .
We have one of our fields as a parking space for free
lent to the temple. Next morning all car gone and everywhere
garbage on the field.
the Temple has earned over 1 million baht
but they didn't have 300 baht left to pay a thai to clean up the mess!
And all sorts of things are thrown into our garden from passing cars.
Sometimes neighbors throw their garbage over their wall between our banana plants,
which I then throw back over the wall.
Maybe then they will understand this !
When I went to meet my girlfriend's family 25 years ago, 50 km behind Udorn Thani, I found a hut on a slightly elevated piece of land with a barbed wire around it, 100 meters from the provincial road, accessible only via a narrow path . It was a hamlet with 10 huts 2 km from the real village. Back then there were only a few old smelly mopeds and a bicycle with broken tires. I went to buy bicycle tires and repair supplies with some tools and repaired the bicycle instead of leaving it there and buying a new one. There was no electricity yet. When people returned from the village market in the morning, each item was in a plastic bag and they often returned with 10 plastic bags. The bags were emptied and the wind determined where it would end up. The barbed wire around the yard was completely covered in plastic and behind every blade of grass. I was going to build a bathroom and renovate the house, level the yard and have gravel brought in to pave the paths, new fencing, etc. and I picked up all the rubbish in a wide area which took me days and I felt and knew that people thought "look." there that idiotic foreigner”! I didn't care what they thought and didn't open my mouth, but rather let it be known with my attitude and look that they were the idiots. I just didn't know where to go with all the collected junk so I dug a big hole to burn everything in it. From then on I did that every 2 weeks and I quickly received support from people I didn't expect. As for the dirt on temple grounds, I know several women who went into the temple for a while to meditate, but the first thing those women had to do in the morning was to sweep the grounds clean. Sometimes you also see monks doing it or citizens who do it voluntarily, but I was surprised that my friends were put to it while they went to the temple for something completely different. I wondered how the (male) Monks would feel when they saw the women cleaning up the yard? I lived for years on the outskirts of Bangkok where there were recycled rubbish bins made from old car tires in the neighbourhood. A good attempt of course, but far too heavy to lift it on top of the garbage truck to tip it over. Things looked pretty good in the neighborhood, but the street dogs were the frustration because they pulled everything out of the open garbage bins because they did not put a lid on them. They are far behind in certain things in Thailand because they have never been taught and people have not learned to think, only learned that 1 + 1 = ………. ps not everyone is like that!
One hundred percent agree!
There is no need for that discussion about the coal(!) power station in Krabi.
If the Thai is aware of all the energy he wastes, and does something with it (!) then a calculation will show that Thailand has a surplus of electricity instead of a shortage.
Indeed, the only one who still has something to say and who everyone respects
has is the king. Maybe he can motivate the population to pick up their waste
cleaning up, that would make Thailand even more beautiful than it already is
I believe there is no People who are more proud of their country, as a Thai, while they themselves are increasingly turning it into a rubbish dump. Even if you often look around the houses, you often see that the most beautiful Villa is in the middle of the mess, surrounded by plastic, empty bottles, and other household waste.
After reading the above, I immediately thought of the initiative that Lung Addi set up in the Pathui region and posted a report on Thailand blog on April 7.
Unfortunately, we are not yet in a position to stay in Thailand permanently, but it might be an idea for Farangs to set up a similar project.
At the beginning of this century, there was a sign at the then airport (Don Muang).
NO LITERATION 3000 BAHT FINE
This worked reasonably well for the first year. everyone was afraid of a fine. But, a while later, no sign anymore so dirty on the street again. We have been calling for years that they should provide information about this. On TV you can easily process a message in soap operas, provide information at schools…. As long as the governments do not order this and consume their food or drinks themselves from a plastic bag..... What will the ordinary Thai worry about. Has been known for years. THAILAND DROPS IN PLASTIC
There are thai of sorts….
I have a neighbor who keeps everything tidy, lives alone and regularly sweeps his large yard,
On the other hand, neighbors live 30 meters away and there is a landfill, empty Chang bottles, cans, residual waste, animal bones and plastic bags flying everywhere, and the mess also has a nice smell. They are all very clean of body and clothing. Still such a big difference.
Saturday on the water in keang krachan it was great fun… sailing a boat, beautiful landscapes and suddenly plastic bags appear in our sights. You rarely see that there in that nature reserve ... and yes ... a little further following the garbage we find a holidaying family in a tent. Also enjoying the incredible beauty. But not realizing that they are seriously polluting it…sorry.
I understand the comment I read here all too well. I too, pay my real estate and water treatment taxes every year. Which many Dutch families look forward to with fear and trembling.
And then I'm not even talking about the part that I pay monthly from my salary, in taxes. Where another part goes to the municipalities as a subsidy.
The title "Thai perverts" and the preamble, "Without generalizing, may I say that many Thai are perverts, without any understanding of the environment".
In my opinion, it does not really show much knowledge and insight into the Thai situation, let alone some respect.
However, I also wonder whether it is useful to respond to this, because against biased statements from people who can only look with tunnel vision. No, I don't really want to grit my teeth on that. But I will briefly, (very briefly) try to nudge the understanding of some towards a slightly different understanding.
In Thailand, in my opinion, there is enough awareness and know-how with regard to the environment. However, in contrast to Holland, in Thailand, policy is not pursued from above. The Thai government sees it as its task to identify, investigate and communicate with figures.
The people are expected to do something with this. And at each level, policy is then pursued, at its own discretion, possibly through “sponsorship” by the government. It is obvious that this is not going the way we are used to in Holland.
No one can deny that he has experienced half the village being called up to carry out a clean-up. Schools also organize these kinds of actions. The temple is also sometimes thoroughly tackled.
The Thai people I deal with usually have other priorities in daily life than worrying about the things that bother us as farang. They are not aware of any harm and then usually respond with “mai pen rai”.
But it is not realistic to ask the Thai to hand over half his salary in taxes, for example to meet the Dutch standard. And even then they won't succeed.
The Netherlands has also had to develop to the level it is at now. Personally, I would like to add that I don't always get my money's worth. Rules I didn't ask for. If you put your garbage can along the street the evening before the collection day, you have a chance that someone will ring the doorbell.
That is one of the reasons why I love to be in Thailand so much.
As far as I know (but maybe it's different in Thailand) it won't cost you a penny in tax to put your own rubbish in a bin instead of throwing it away or probably just leaving it lying around…..
When I'm in Pattaya I can see almost everyone cleaning their own street from my balcony every morning. When I throw something on the floor, I almost always get a comment from my company. I never see sweepers like the ones in Amsterdam crossing the entire city center 3 times a day. Mountains of waste rarely. Despite the heat, there are hardly any places where it smells chronically. I think it's actually a lot better than expected, especially for a tropical Asian country. But I'll wear my rose-colored glasses again and please the government too much.
It seems logical to me that people do this in touristic areas. Even the Thai who deal with Tourism realize that if they let things get messy, the Tourists will stay away and it will cost them money. In such areas I know that every household is addressed, probably by someone from the Church. Most of those who exist from Tourisme do it anyway because it is directly to their advantage. The neater the appearance of a shop, restaurant or office, the more attractive it is to potential customers. For example, selection is primarily made by foreigners.
If you take it seriously, it's a dirty mess here in Thailand. A lot of people who have absolutely nothing to do with the environment. They just do what and throwing waste away is possible everywhere, why pay money for that. According to my wife, the amphur should do something about this. Well then you can wait until you weigh an ounce, because this really isn't a priority. So we just look away and say that it is actually a beautiful country. In psychology this is called underacting and it can only be maintained to a limited extent. As far as I'm concerned, it remains one of the biggest annoyances in this country.
By the way, I read a study years ago about the mess in Amsterdam's central station. It was recorded where the dirt originated, etc. On the cleaning day it was a little less bad, but soon as more waste is closed, you will see this get worse very quickly. So it was also a psychological phenomenon that as soon as people perceive the dirt, they want to multiply it or think there is room for more because it is already filthy here. Maybe the Thai also thinks this way because in the end people don't differ that much.
Prayuth has previously argued that the use of, for example, plastic bags in supermarkets etc. should be banned. That again earned him a lot of comments and in the end it didn't happen again.
Encouraging traffic to become safer and raising the issue of the environment requires courage and perseverance. This is not in many Thai, indeed the term "mai pen arai" fits perfectly.
Okay, there he goes again: As long as the Government does nothing about this, it will last forever.
We had an old building that had collapsed and try to get rid of it, you won't succeed because there is not 1 dump here where you can get rid of your rubbish, whether or not for a fee, so then set fire to it and the rest at the side of the road.
I regularly visit the evening / night market in Chon Buri where there are eateries every few meters, but you cannot find an empty tempex container or plastic bag anywhere, so hopla on the side of the street.
Indeed, we also have neat neighbors who regularly sweep their place and if the can is full then hopla to the other side of the wall, only happened a few times because we happened to be the neighbors on the other side of the wall, 1 time dumped half a click of dirt over the wall and never had any problems with it.
And then of course the most important :: No one will teach their children to clean up the empty bottle or whatever, they just drop it and are absolutely unaware of any harm
We once drove from Chiang Mai to Chiang Kham. We always make a stop high on a mountain with a beautiful view of Lake Phayao. I got into a conversation with two men who were drinking a bottle of beer. When the beer was gone, they threw the bottle on the side of the road while &^%$*& there was a waste bin two meters away. I won't shut up. I said, pointing to the bottles: 'If the king saw what you are doing what would he say?' Everything in the royal language, of course. They obediently picked up the bottles and threw them in the bin and sheepishly drooped off. Thais must learn to address each other about their behavior.
When I moved to Chiang Kham 15 years ago, there was only a waste collection service in the town and not in the villages around it. People burned their waste or simply threw it somewhere. The waste dump was 10 kilometers away, too far for many. Ten years ago, a garbage collection service was also introduced in the villages. A waste separation building and an incinerator were built a few kilometers from our house. That made a lot of improvement, but old habits wear out slowly. My son also regularly throws his cigarette butt on the ground. Me : (*&^%$*&
Here on beautiful Koh Samui, the government turns the dirt everywhere in the beautiful primeval forests
dumped. When the wind is in your direction, the stench can sometimes become unbearable.
The rivers are filled with garbage that finds its way to the bay of Lamai, I would
would like to have a sample of the sea water taken here.
They had a waste incineration plant built here years ago, but it was overdue
maintenance and laziness, this installation has not worked for years, so we dump everything in the woods.
There is no money to renovate the waste incineration plant, where did that money go, it is not one of them
richest places of Thailand with millions of tourists.
Last year, a Thai helicopter made 3 recordings of the mess and the
broken power station but have never heard anything about this so we continue dumping
despite the protests of mainly the Thai inhabitants. Corruption?? Well No!!
I was on a regular bus and a garbage bag was just thrown out through a window on the highway. At such a moment you have to hold back and that while the bus was full of soldiers.