The will of an 'older youngster'…

By Hans Bosch
Posted in Expats and retirees
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December 24 2010

From time to time the famous song by Boudewijn de Groot comes to mind and I sing: “After 62 years in this life, I am drawing up the will of my 'youth'. Not that I have money or property to give away; I was never good for a smart boy”. Why, you wonder? That has to do with what might have become of me if I had stayed in the Netherlands.

What do you do when you are 57 years old, divorced and have a bonus from your employer in your pocket? Most people will then live frugally behind the geraniums, do some volunteer work and then quietly and lonely die after years.

Fortunately, I have an extensive travel history. At the expense of my employer, airlines and tour operators, I have been able to see extremely beautiful parts of the world, from Argentina via Cuba and the US to Iceland and from South Africa via Kenya and the Gulf States to India, China and Japan. And also Thailand not to forget, because that's where I eventually ended up.

But spend the rest of my life moping on a luxury maisonette in the middle of the country? No way. And certainly not because I met a nice lady in Bangkok in 2000 on my way to Australia. She did not, by the way, because she turned out to be older than stated, in possession of a lethargic 12-year-old son and weighed down by enormous debts. Her wish to bring the son to the Netherlands was the actual breaking point. Despite her good care and excellent cooking, I kept looking for 'more'.

In a disco in Bangkok I met a beautiful and young girl, a true 'party tiger'. Now the most beautiful flowers still grow on the edge of the abyss. I knew rationally not to burn my fingers on this, but she kept pulling (at me) and with the prospect of early dismissal and the payment of a shit bonus, a future in Thailand slowly but surely started to take shape. In the Netherlands you assume that you are taken care of from the cradle to the grave, but the quality and quantity of that care have declined rapidly in recent years. And knowing that you may only have twenty years to go doesn't seem like a comforting prospect. You can lie dead behind the front door for weeks before someone comes up with the bright idea to take a closer look. Dying at home in Thailand invokes all kinds of evil spirits. Before the moment is there, you are already in a hospital. The spirits seem to have less control over that.

Of course, it would have been ideal to spend the remaining time alternately in the Netherlands (summer) and Thailand (winter), but that could not be accepted by brown. Moreover, you run the risk of becoming stuck between two cultures. In Thailand, this also causes problems with renting and moving again and again.

Thailand was ultimately chosen over places like Cambodia, Laos or the Philippines not only because of the girlfriend, but also because of the warmth climate (sometimes too hot), the excellent health care, the reasonable to good internet connections, English-language newspapers and the relatively favorable price level.

So to start with I rented a 'town house', what we would call a terraced house in the Netherlands. The living room was tiled from floor to ceiling; the name 'slaughterhouse' was quickly found. Despite monthly visits from the pest controllers, the place remained teeming with large cockroaches. And when I was sitting outside in the driveway eating my muesli, the neighbor would always come outside to clear his throat under his roof, about two meters from my breakfast. In short: you live on top of each other and that has never been my preference.

Because my girlfriend just got her driver's license five years ago, I bought a Toyota Hilux, but after a few hundred meters with her at the wheel, my buttocks were sweating. She turned out to have failed, but after paying 3.000 THB she got the paper anyway. Dangerous, therefore. In my student days I gave driving lessons at driving school Kovacs in Amsterdam for two years to earn some extra money. After that I vowed never to do that work again. Until I had to get back to work with my girlfriend. Still with the steering wheel on the other side and without double controls. After practicing for an hour every day for three weeks (and almost fighting each other the car) I felt it was sensible to let her out on the road alone. There have been no serious collisions and dents in recent years, just some scratches and inexplicable flaws. That is part of a female driving style…

Life in Thailand is a lot more exciting than in the Netherlands, if only because you never know what is hanging over your head here. I don't want to think about growing old in the Netherlands. There you are lonely, troublesome and superfluous; here at least 'Pi'. In a hotels in Pattaya I once saw an old gray man in his eighties come out of his room. With a nurse on his left arm and one on his right arm. There is still hope, I thought.

Especially after the birth of my daughter Lizzy, the clock started ticking again. Hopefully I can wind it up enough every time for years to come. In the Netherlands, that clock had long since ended up in the rubbish bin. Or should it now be classified as small chemical waste?

33 Responses to “The Will of an 'Older Youth'…”

  1. kick&marian says up

    There would be many in the regatta quarter who would envy you. Dishes left and right, Men in the streets with dresses and beards. In the pub a complaining casteline how beautiful it was 30 years ago.
    Take care and have fun there in Thailand

    Merry Christmas and a good 2011 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpY-rfhW2mM )

    • erik says up

      exactly, for me it is from Sep to April in TH and summer in NL, because then TH is really too hot for me. Merry Christmas everyone

  2. Kap Khan says up

    I can completely empathize with the above piece by Hans Bos.
    I myself have already drawn my plan regarding Thailand, but I still have to wait until my employer thinks it is enough (the end is in sight).
    So-called wintering in Thailand can indeed not attract brown and it also provides extra care, so it will be wintering in Thailand all year round. I look forward.

  3. paul oldenburg says up

    Well, Hans, I'm 62 too, have a house in Nonthaburi, and have been here for about nine years.
    In the summer I still work for my old employer at Schiphol, from the beginning of May to the end of September. I'm having a great time here, and I cycle about 50 kilometers every day.
    In 3 years I will receive my state pension, and then I will go to the Netherlands once a year for a short vacation.
    I tell you all, I have never regretted my decision for a day.
    Happy Holidays, Greetings Paul

  4. Dear Hans,

    I enjoyed your article, I completely agree with you, what are you still looking for in Holland,
    Holland is good for earning money, saving some money and then a good life in Thailand with your state pension.
    I have to work in Holland for another 11 months, and then quickly to my home in Hua-Hin,
    my thai wife, my in-laws, warm weather, beach, good food, etc.
    With your Aow in Holland every euro has to turn around, in Thailand half is enough if you normally act.

    Happy Holidays

    • Jan Veenstra says up

      I've been living in Thailand for 9 years now and I'm having a great time,
      but with half of your state pension, you can forget about good food, etc.
      I have not yet met 1 Dutch person who can live on the state pension alone.
      Wish you all the best

      • Dear Jan ,

        I don't know what you do in Thailand and where you live. but believe it or not, € 500 is enough for me
        per month, It depends on what you do or what you rent, I have a nice house, not far from the beach, large living room,
        2 bedrooms, large kitchen, front and rear garden. pay € 150 per month for this, bought your own furniture, etc.
        2 air conditioners, electricity costs approx. 160 Bath,
        Good food doesn't cost much more than 100 Bath per person per day, sometimes buying at the market, but regularly eating in Thai restaurants
        Get fresh bread rolls every day, eat cheese, etc., drink a few beets, etc

        I think if you live in Pattaya area it is much more expensive, lived there for 2 years
        in jomtien,everything was more expensive.now i live in hua_hin,
        Live in a Thai neighborhood, which I like very much, have many Thai friends / acquaintances.
        Very social, I get invited to all sorts of things, birthdays, parties, going to the beach, it's always an open house with me, etc. I don't have any Dutch friends either.
        I don't need that.
        The Thai have little contact with the Farang who usually live in a park, with a doorman at the entrance.

        • johanna says up

          Hi Rick, could I ask you a few more things about Hua Hin and life there by mail?

          • Dear Johanna,

            You can ask me anything about Hua-Hin!
            My email is [email protected]

            Hear from you?

  5. me says up

    WHAT negativity about the Netherlands from the “poor Dutch people in Thailand” haha. YES I love Thailand, but the Netherlands is not just bad, really not. ALSO, there are still a lot of people looking out for each other here. HAPPY time in Thailand 😀

  6. ThailandPattaya says up

    Whether it was written deliberately I cannot estimate very well, but the text of “Testament” is really “After 22 years in this life…” and not 62.

    • Hans Bos (editor) says up

      Hehehe… Kind of lame to sing 22 when you're 62, right? Already awake?

  7. reed says up

    Mr Hans Bos what a nice story. You are absolutely right and enjoy the life you live there. At least you took the step.
    My brother has also lived in Thailand for a long time and sometimes I also think about spending my pensions there (although I am a woman). I still have to wait a while before that happens, but as a woman you are still with the children and grandchildren for whom I am here. stay.

    Gr. Reed and a healthy 2011.

  8. huibthat says up

    I also consciously chose to live here in Asia. it has always attracted me, especially the smile, which had another character behind it, for example in the first James Bond film recorded here. In Nld, you see smooth deadpan faces with a nasty character behind them. Moreover, the Dutch are huge followers, think of Fortuyn, Verdonk and Wilders.
    [with all the criminal party members who want to rule us] here Thailand is not everything, but here I do not know the people personally and I do not know their language.
    In the Netherlands [40 years in the catering industry] I got to know these government-minded people personally, so I got away from there. !! I'm doing fine here, some will say, thanks to the Netherlands, but there you have a net salary with a lot of deductions, so you paid for it. I'm also over 60, I live just outside Pattaya, but I have everything here. ,what my heart desires, A great house in a park with swimming pool, security, etc. ,,the sokkepok,, is collected 3 times, no fines for using the wrong container and no snow removal.!!! an excellent selection of shops, international restaurants, excellent hospitals with nice nurses, good health insurance with Matthieu and Andre in Hua Hin, many entertainment venues [I am a catering tiger] Dutch friends and many acquaintances who have Pattaya as their annual holiday destination . !!!
    I can make ends meet financially and luckily my parents taught me to save so that I can absorb the monetary value of the baht / euro. Everything is rising enormously, and the old people/benefit recipients will receive something like 2,45 euros next week [1 loaf].
    So my choice remains to stay here and take measures [including marriage] so that, for example, an acquaintance, who has now died for almost 3 weeks and is in a cold store, because a child of his, whom he has not seen for 32 years, hell to give the Embassy permission to cremate the body here. thanks to Dutch regulations. The only thing that still attracts me about the Netherlands is Dutch music, including the will of Boudewijn de Groot, a stew now and then, a new herring, cleaned in the cart and smoked eel [thanks to my savings], sports achievements and I long for it, just like my Frisian friends here, to the Elfstedentocht tour and when I see ice in the hairy parts of my face, I think, what a good choice I made with a gem. temperature of 33 degrees. Have a good 2011

    • Henk says up

      Dear Huibthat, you don't have to miss a few things you mention, you can download music, stews, are available, potatoes, green cabbage (kale). cans of wine sauerkraut, carrots and onions etc, and you can talk to your friends on Skype. all of this will lessen your loss, only the hug, that's getting harder.
      (haha) and in Pattaya also a man who makes Dutch smoked sausages and hams, and sells them for 350 bth p/kl

      • huibthai says up

        Music, I don't miss it, I have at least 15000 songs in my PC and another 150 CDs with me, Henk, I write, it attracts me. Stew, I should have described it better, made from a delicious floury potato, [eigenheimer] I eat plenty of herring here, but I write, fresh from the knife to the cart, smoked eel is now rare and expensive and often farmed, no, fresh smoked and still nice and warm, and melts on the tongue. !!!!!

  9. shed man says up

    Good that you posted this anyway. My reactions are indeed sometimes cynical, I admit sometimes a bit bullying, but not racist. I also don't swear. Well maybe I better stay out of here. On English-language forums you can often do more. Moreover, an Australian or American seldom grumbles at his own country

  10. Pim says up

    Dear Jan .
    I don't believe you about your electricity costs and also live in Hua-hin.
    You must have forgotten to put a 0 after that .
    Especially with 2 air conditioners.
    Not to mention 1 cheese sandwich and 1 beer, which is not really cheap in Thailand.
    You certainly do everything running and you've probably never heard of insurance either.
    The fahrang in the park is mostly with 1 Thai woman who in turn often also has children, so most Thai people live in such a park.
    You should not throw sand in the eyes of people who are unknown to live here.

    • Pim says up

      Sorry Jan
      I mean rick, wrong!

  11. dirk says up

    hello Pim, I do indeed think that Rick gives a very rosy picture of Hua Hin financially, I myself am now 41 and saving hard to also live in Thailand in the future and because of this I have been studying this for several years kind of thing
    currently to live as Rick writes you will really need € 1000 per month rather than € 500 as he writes

    • Dear Dirk,

      What I wrote about € 500 per month is what is possible, I really don't live on that amount in Thailand, usually I spend more € 700. But I have about .2years ago
      Well kept for 1 month, must say that the euro / bath was more favorable than now.
      Do you know that € 1.000 per month is a very well paid director's salary.
      Jan Modaal earns approximately between € 150 and € 200 per month.
      Just like in Holland, you just have to adapt to your money.

      Gr. Rick van Heiningen

  12. kick&marian says up

    hi people
    is here in hua hin just visited hua hin bakery and bought a fresh bread 2ons of cheese 2ons of ham price was 169 baht about 3,40 euros i think in nl you will be soon
    I lost 12 euros to it. Conclusion I can agree with the story of Rick van Heiningen
    greetings from a sunny hua hin

    • Kick & Marian

      Finally people who believe that I can get by on € 500, sometimes I do
      €600. I mean it is possible, but currently the euro/bath is very unfavourable.
      What you say about the baker is completely correct, also take it for a few more days.
      My wife buys a lot of fruit & vegetables and Thai food at the small markets, I do large purchases at the Makro, about 15 km south of Hua-Hin.
      I really don't turn every Bath, sometimes I also lose approx. € 800.
      I just wanted to tell you what is possible.
      You can only find a cheap rental house with the help of Thai friends, who know the way, with a real estate agent you will never find a house for about 5.000 Bath.

      Gr. Rick van Heiningen
      from wet Holland.

  13. Pim says up

    Kick & Marian.
    Do the math again, or don't take butter on your bread.
    Half pack of real butter 80 Thb.
    1 ounce ham 41 Thb .
    1 fresh bread 42 Thb
    1 ounce of cheese, real Gouda 43 Thb.
    This is the price at the Tesco.
    The battery of the calculator was definitely empty at your bakery?
    Or they forgot to pay for something.
    Count the Euro at 39 Thb and without butter I am already close to 5.5 Euro.
    I would like to know where that bakery is.
    And if Rick also likes 1 beer, you will soon come close to Dirk's calculation.

    • Dear Pim,

      I wonder why you make people look like liars with your rotten remarks like
      The calculator's battery was definitely dead, or they forgot to pay something.
      If you disagree with something, try to do so in a normal civilized manner.
      Because of people like you, writing a message isn't fun anymore, I thought about it my
      cancel your account, but fortunately there are also normal people on the Thailand blog

      Gr. Rick van Heiningen

      • pump pu says up

        Of course there are also normal people on this blog 555

        I completely agree with you that it is possible!
        indeed you can achieve a lot more with thai friends.
        this from my own experience.

  14. Khap Khan says up

    No matter how you calculate left or right, to make a long story short: life in Thailand will always be cheaper than in the Netherlands and it will always remain that way, so if you look purely financially, you will end up with your AOW + possibly pension can do more than in the Netherlands. For most expats/farang, that is the main motivation to move to Thailand, just try living in the Netherlands on EUR 1000 per month. Please note that in Thailand you can also live beyond your means, but you will never have enough.

  15. Pim says up

    Sorry, Rick.
    I'm trying to tell you that you imagine life here as an expat to be too good for some people to get by on 500 euros a month.
    Those months can be in between.
    I didn't start telling you that with 2 air conditioners you lose 160 thb in electricity per month, that's 1 lie!
    Also tell them that when you are 65 you will have lost a lot of money on 1 health insurance policy.
    I'm not just here for the nice weather, in NL I would have to go to social assistance.
    What I say is just true.
    You forget to tell us that you were 20% cheaper then compared to now.
    That you see me as abnormal is far beyond me, in any case I studied from the age of 6 to the age of 14.
    I wish you 1 more happy future in Thailand.

    • Dear Pim.

      I didn't say that I use the 2 air conditioners, did I?

      Every night before going to sleep in my bedroom, it turns on for half an hour, then sleeps with a large fan.
      So that's about 15 a week.

      I pay total electricity, between 150 and 200 Bath. Believe it or not, don't call me a liar.

      I only tell what is possible, I lived in Jomtien for about 2 years, I had about XNUMX years there
      € 1.000 per month needed, but was fluttering there (single)

  16. Made a mistake I see later, about the air conditioning. must make sense about 15 hours a month.

    • @ Rick, thank you for correcting it. That's nice of you. If you knew Pim (like me) you would understand that he means no harm. So feel free to be kind to each other 😉

  17. Pim says up

    Hello , Rick .
    Sand about it, let everyone have their own thoughts about this.
    Good luck and come and drink 1 coke with me during that time.
    Then we can fly each other's hair for a while.
    Bye .

    • Great Pim, I wanted to ask you to be a little kinder to each other.


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