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Home » Expats and retirees » Reader Submission: Immigration no longer stamps for proof of life
Reader Submission: Immigration no longer stamps for proof of life
Posted in Proof of life, Expats and retirees, Retirement
Tags: Attestation de Vita, Life proof, Retirement
Dear readers,
Perhaps unnecessarily, but this morning I was at Immigration for a stamp on my Attestation de Vita. Here I was told that this was no longer possible. The official in question only told me that the rules had changed since August and referred me to the police station.
I had already had this form from Pensioenfonds PME signed by the police (costs TB 300) but this was not accepted because Thailand is not one of the Commonwealth countries.
At the police station I was told that Immigration is no longer allowed to do this because there was too much cheating and the police were therefore the appropriate authority. Actually logical given the fact that the police are the first official body to be involved after the death of a farang. This meant that I had to go to a notary (cost TB 1.000).
All this for the information of those who need to have such a form signed; so no more Immigration (at least in Hua Hin) and PME allows you to incur quite a few extra costs, not chic!
Submitted by Marianne
Until recently, Pattaya immigration was not difficult (imm. officer left at the counter upon entry 200 baht ..), I once just had it filled in and stamped by a Thai doctor, the Belgian Pension Service also accepted this.
Be. Embassy also accepts photo with clearly visible date from recent Thai newspaper and intended person holding it visibly under face on photo, by email. So they don't make it difficult ...
@David H.: “Officer on the left at the counter upon entry 200 baht…” I believe you David, but I have been going for years (in Pattaya that is) to the officer way back against the wall, right next to that door in front of the staff. That man has never asked me for money!! So from now on… know where to walk. By the way, you don't have to get a number either! Just walk right up to him.
As a result of this article, the following: on my ABP list there is also a notary, but can someone tell me what that is called, preferably in English and Thai. I've been looking for it but so far I can't find one like that. The fact that it costs 1000 baht does not matter to me because a plane ticket, taxi, etc. to Bangkok is much more expensive from here (Loei).
Both notary and laywer (English for lawyer) are called the same in Thai: ทนายความ as far as I know.
Is there no possibility in Kolat (Korat)?
Success with it.
I have to fill in a proof of life 3 times a year, what a hassle. Just a life certificate on a citizen service number should still be sufficient, but the side people in the Netherlands have those weird rules and maybe also
made-up rules?
simon borgers, this is how it is done with the Life Certificate that I receive from Denmark every year. Get an e-mail that I have to log in to the Government (Denmark) enter my name and Danish citizen service nr. and click on send. receive a confirmation of receipt and you're done. Went to the SSO again yesterday with a Life Certificate and Income statement from the AOW-SVB. I am now in my 80th year of life and have difficulty walking. but those whiners at the SVB don't care about that. Drive there yourself, there and back 3 hours. They don't care.
It is the same nagging from the pension funds every year, I let them wait until I have had the statement of being alive completed by the SSO before I send it to the SVB, I make copies and send them to the pension fund. I have asked them to synchronize their application with the application from the SVB. That was not possible even in 2016.
Good luck to all with this sadness Cees
We go to the police station of our municipality every year and get the signature and the stamp there without any problems and free of charge!
The pension service of Belgium has accepted this without any problems!
Immigration in Pattaya still issues a stamp. Got it last week with no problems.
I copy my SVB life certificate stamped by the SSO in Buriram and send it to my pension fund PMT. They accept this and confirm receipt by e-mail. Everything completely free of charge.
I have it filled in at the municipality, ( government ) I pay nothing
The Belgian embassy only issues life certificates to Belgian citizens, so no longer for the Thai wife.
So I go to the local police (Pakkred Nonthaburi) cost 00.00 Baht for both of us, 90 seconds back outside.
Went to immigration jomtien last week, just got stamped, just had bad luck had to pay 200 baht, usually free.
I also couldn't get any evidence in Korat Cho ho from Immigration or Police or Ampur two months ago.
Was referred to foreign police in Cho ho.
They have asked me for a translation of the document to be signed against payment of 500thb.
Received proof of life after translation and copy of Dutch – Thai translation.
The officer managed to say that only you and the embassy are still authorized for proof of life.
Form should be delivered for free but yes ee live in thailand so translation is 500thb scholl men.
@Alfons Dekimpe
Although your name seems Flemish to me , it could be that you are Dutch , …. because the Belgian pension service supplies the life certificates to be completed. BILINGUAL Dutch / English …? (French / English for French-speaking Belgians ..)
I just checked so as not to tell an untruth here .... and yes, bilingual Dutch / English!
As a Fleming and residing in Jomtien, south of Pattaya, I act as follows:
With the form that I received from the Federal Public Service Finance (request once & copy afterwards yourself) I go to the Consulate of Austria (South Pattaya / soi parallel to 2nd. Road) where I get a FREE stamp on my life certificate of the Honorary Consul General, Mr. Rudolf Höfer receive.
I then take a photo of this original proof (which I keep for at least one year) … and then send it by e-mail to FPS Finance Brussels.
Very simple and again, completely free.
Success
PATRICK, the Dutch SVB or AOW is not satisfied with that, it has to be done at the SSO. For my pension fund I have it done at the Pattaya Immigration after giving a “donation”.
I go to the German consulate in Chiang Mai and have to pay 1200 baht, that amount is the same as I should have it signed by NL Embassy in Bangkok. If you receive an SVB benefit, you can go to the City Hall in Chiang Mai, there is an SVB annex and you will receive a stamp without paying anything.
for the payment of accrued pension, one must no longer be affiliated with the pension fund for 2 years, because my wife was deregistered from the Netherlands, the pension fund wanted proof of life before proceeding to payment, here in the Isaan the police on duty was agent prepared to stamp, sign and date the form, which was valued by the relevant pension fund and payment was made.
Life certificate it is a must there is a lot of abuse people who are no longer alive and still receive their pension. I myself worked for 40 years at a large pension fund every year when they came back. Perhaps a suggestion that there will be clarity if you live abroad how you can have this signed for different rules for each country. An email to the authority where do I have to get the signature.
From Siem Reap I always go to the embassy in Bangkok to have my 2 life certificates stamped there, I always stay there for about 4 days in a hotel where I have been coming for years, always nice to meet the people I know there again . Then I will go for a few weeks, preferably to the north of Thailand. This is how I combine the useful with the pleasant.