Buying a condo in Thailand

By Gringo
Posted in Expats and retirees
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16 September 2013

Everywhere you look around Pattaya – and in other tourist places it will be no different – ​​more and more condo complexes are being built. Large buildings with often many floors, which are divided into many condos, say flats or apartments.

Buying a condo is attractive to many foreigners, either as an investment or for own residence. The Pattaya Trader recently published a story by an Englishman in which he describes how he bought a condo and what procedures he went through. It won't be the same for everyone, but I thought it would be nice and interesting to tell his story here.

“I had decided to buy a condo and drove quite a few kilometers on my motorbike to see condo buildings under construction on the left and right. Some of those projects have a sales office and I have also visited a number of them for information. In one of those sales offices, where I finally succeeded, I was kindly greeted by a receptionist and then a salesperson. He showed me a map of the various condos in the complex, which was still under construction.

I was interested in a certain type of condo, which was supposed to cost about 1,6 million Baht. At that moment I was able to choose the desired floor and the location – sunny or shady side. If I wanted to buy, I had to immediately pay 10.000 Baht as a “booking fee” and another 50.000 Baht as a “contract fee” within a week. This money was not in addition to the price of the condo, but was part of it. After a week I would have to sign the contract and then make a monthly payment. They presented me with a plan to pay 15 Baht for 30.000 months - that's how long the construction took. At the end of that period, I had to pay the remaining amount, which was about 1,1 million Baht. The latter amount included some additional costs for transfer and taxes, but no more than approximately 30.000 Baht.

The condo I selected was a “shell unit” that still had to be fitted with a floor, kitchen and furniture. The bathroom was ready, but I still had to calculate how much the other amenities and furniture would cost me to make it habitable for me. The complex itself would be equipped with a swimming pool, shops and a restaurant. I had carefully studied the location of my condo in the building, looked closely at its exposure to the sun, and then chose a condo on a higher floor with a sea view on the shady side.

After an hour of talking with the staff, who answered all my questions nicely, I made the decision and paid the 10.000 Baht reservation money. I handed over my passport for a copy, which was needed for the contract and thought that things could possibly still go wrong until the contract I would have lost “only” 10,000 Baht. I left the office with a pleasant feeling and I celebrated the purchase exuberantly in the evening.

The next morning I went to a local bank, in my case the TMB, to open an account. That went without a problem, I only had to show my passport. The entire procedure at the bank took about twenty minutes, after which I left the bank with a bank book, an ATM card, an account number and the Swift code of the bank to transfer money from my home country to Thailand. The cost was only 500 Baht and of course I had to deposit a small amount into my account when opening the account.

The next step was to contact my bank in England to arrange the transfer to my Thai bank account. I was still asked whether they should send the money in Thai Baht or British pounds, but I was quickly done with that. Of course you do not buy Baht in England, but have the Pounds transferred, which is then converted into Baht by the Thai bank at a much more favorable rate. I ordered an amount in Pounds to be transferred, which would amount to approximately 150.000 Baht, so that I could pay the initial costs for the contract as well as a number of monthly payments.

The money arrived within a few days and when I went back to the sales office a week later to finalize the matter, I had the necessary money at my disposal. The contract (fortunately in the English language) was now ready for signature, which I did after checking all the details. The contract still required a declaration from me, as a foreign buyer, that the money for the purchase actually came from abroad. This statement, necessary for the formalities at the Land Office, was issued by the bank without any problem. I did the whole transaction without a lawyer, because I had already screened the developer myself and determined that she had a good reputation. I left the office with the contract and was able to schedule further payment.

I had a monthly transfer from England to Thailand for the next 15 months so that I could pay the monthly installment of 30.000 Baht. That amount was not too large for me and I could also save that way to make the final payment later. For that I had to put away 55.000 Baht every month. After those 15 months I had collected the outstanding amount of 1,1 million.

At the end of the 15 months, the building was completed and the pool and surrounding garden were finalised. I can inspect my condo and found everything in perfect order as agreed in advance. I paid the outstanding amount and also handed over the Tor Tor 3 document from the bank as proof that the money paid came from abroad.

The developer arranged everything with the Land Office and the next day I had the papers as proof of ownership in my possession and was handed the key to the condo. I have been living there for three years now and to my complete satisfaction”

13 Responses to “Buying a condo in Thailand”

  1. maithing says up

    Good story with a happy ending, I own a condo for more than 20 years, but we have also experienced some nasty things with the management after about 5 to 6 years. But good laws have also been adjusted and everything is going a lot better. My story is, walk to Central or Royal Garden where the sellers are and ask what the additional costs are, including service or who does the management. Questions they usually don't know the answer to, some young Thai ladies silk just go buy elsewhere. We are all co-owners and can choose a management, but the companies that sell the condos keep this to themselves for a few years. In the early years you have little maintenance costs and after a few years the pot is filled and then the management changes, it will not always be the case, but it is still worth paying attention, for example, large swimming pools cost a lot in maintenance, lifts, paintwork, etc. after a few years.
    good luck to those who are about to buy.

  2. jim says up

    “The contract still required a statement from me, as a foreign buyer, that the money for the purchase actually came from abroad.”

    And if the money does not come from abroad, but was earned in Thailand?
    Can't you buy a condo?

    • RonnyLadPhrao says up

      Of course you can then buy a condo.
      But I suspect that you will be asked to prove how you got that domestic money, ie how you earned that money here.

      They will probably check your residence status (what kind of visa do you have and does this correspond to the purpose of your stay), whether a work permit is required to earn this money, can you afford a condo with your Thai declared income? (if you earn 600000 Baht a year, it seems difficult to me to save a condo of 1,5 million after two years), etc….
      So I think that if it has to be done with domestic money, you can sometimes expect an extensive investigation / questions from certain authorities.

      But it's not impossible of course.
      There are also those who have been living and working here for years, and have thus built up sufficient finances of domestic origin to make such purchases.
      Nothing wrong with it.

      • jim says up

        I think that if you pull 1 million out of your back pocket in 1.6 go, then it may be asked where that money comes from.

        But black and / or criminal money from abroad apparently doesn't stink 😉 😀

        • BA says up

          Why?

          1.6 million baht is about 40.000 euros.

          For a Thai a god's fortune, but for a falang those amounts are not unthinkable. Sell ​​your house with surplus value or some savings, etc. Inheritance from parents, etc. Plenty of possibilities.

          As if anyone with that kind of money in his account would have obtained it unfairly???

          • jim says up

            Moderator: Please do not chat.

  3. YES says up

    I'd like to make a few side drawings.
    Buying something that is still under construction or needs to be built
    keep a certain risk that it will be much later than agreed
    or never delivered at all. I know here in Phuket
    enough cases. I also have to look after the environment.
    You have a beautiful view some years but unfortunately for your condo
    a few years later another flat was put down and the view was gone.
    Selling then hardly succeeds and you suddenly have an enormous value
    to make a reduction.

    It's been mentioned but it goes wrong so often. The common costs.
    Then it can be maintenance fee, administration fee and management fee. These amounts can sometimes add up considerably. I know cases of 8000 baht per month. What happens if all Thais and some foreigners living in the complex refuse to pay. Or part of the complex has not been sold. Not enough money left in the pot. Neglect of the complex. There is no more cleaning and no money
    for security.

    You live fairly close together in his flat. People differ in habits. Some go to sleep early and others come home completely lame and play some loud music. This can lead to serious problems.

    It strikes me in Thailand that apartments are often expensive compared to houses. You can buy a 2m30 shoebox in Patong, Phuket for 2 million baht. If you only use it to sleep in then that's okay, because for living that just seems too small to me. However, less than a 10-minute drive away you can buy a house with three bedrooms and a small garden for 2.5 million baht. That seems to me to live a lot more comfortable. Somewhat spacious apartments are hard to find and quite expensive. Then you are soon in the price segment of 15-25 million baht.

    In addition, there are often apartments for rent for very reasonable prices. For example, you could rent for 6 months or a year. If you like everything, such as the neighbours, the complex, the street and the surroundings, you could still buy.

  4. janbeute says up

    Everything seems so simple in this story.
    I don't quite understand the story of he opened an account with the TMB BANK.
    I too am a customer here in their Lamphun branch .
    When opening the passport, they also asked me for residence in Thailand and proof of residence in addition to the passport.
    No problem for me I have a house with yellow book and all.
    Every year they ask for a copy of my passport because of the visa retirement stamp.
    I look neat, no tattoos, etc., do not live here illegally.
    Where is the difference , go and throw a ball to the manager next week .
    Procedure head office Bangkok they say .
    These rules also apply to Tanachart bank.

    Greetings Jan

    • Gringo says up

      About opening a bank account with a Thai bank, the original English story had an addition, which I have omitted:

      “It may be a little more difficult to open an account now with some banks requiring work permits and other documentation such as a longer term visa, however at last check TMB and Kasikorn banks both are able to open savings accounts on the spot for foreign nationals as long as they present their passport”

      I thought it was irrelevant, especially since I myself have had an account with Krung Thai Bank for years, which I use occasionally. At the time I only had to show my passport and I am not aware of the obligation to show a copy of the passport or other documents every year.

      • janbeute says up

        Dear Gringo in response to your story.
        I have very good experience with the TMB bank. And they are very good to me as a customer. I like their system it stops corruption and illegal banking in Thailand. If you can easily open a bank account or buy an apartment, then you should ask yourself: is this correct.
        Most of these people are on vacation here, and become victims. I guess how stupid can you be.
        I myself am not highly educated, but the sun does not rise for nothing, I was taught.
        Where I live there are a few farangs, also Dutch, who have built a beautiful house themselves with the help of their Thai wife or girlfriend. Usually much cheaper and even better built if you make them believe in advertisements via the internet or something like that
        My advice: Use common sense if you have it. No buying emotions on your vacation. If you want to come here more often in Thailand to build a future after your retirement, for example. Take a look around before you do something that you will certainly regret.
        Jantje has been living here for 8 years with his Thai wife, and together they have built a nice and beautiful house and plot.
        Also with damage and shame, by the way. But the amounts for damages and disgrace were low.
        Every day when we get up in the morning we are happy with what we have built together.
        Greetings from Jantje from Pasang
        PS: Had a lot of rain here today.

  5. ruud says up

    Quote:
    Buying a condo is attractive to many foreigners, either as an investment or for own residence.

    I am curious about your comment about attractive as an investment.
    Can you substantiate that or did you copy that slogan from the seller?

    • Gringo says up

      It's my cry, Ruud.

      I do know people who have bought one or more condos and then rent them out.
      Moreover, they count on the condos to increase in value over time.

  6. long field says up

    Yes, I have acquired different experiences. On holiday in Cha-am I fell in love with housing in Thailand. After some research in Hua Hin, I decided to buy a house on Avalon with a lease contract for 30 years. It took about 2 weeks before the purchase contract was ready and I had to pay 100.000 baht as a registration fee for the fees etc. Then I pay the purchase amount in 4 installments.

    When I returned home I had to pay the first installment immediately and the next installment on specified dates. It was agreed that the chanot would be handed over after payment of the 2nd installment. Then the misery began; after several requests, the agreement was not met. After some time I came into contact via the internet THAINET with a Dutchman who was married to a Thai lawyer, a certain […] and his wife […]. They would of course help me for a fee.

    It was first stated that for legal proceedings it would be better if the house was registered in the name of the lawyer. After a drawn up agreement stating that the house would be put in my name immediately after delivery. Then I had to send the 3rd installment to […] who would then arrange the payment to Avalon and keep control of the construction. It was then reported that there was no chanot and the reason was that there was no planning permission for the residence. But I didn't have to worry because there were several conversations with the land office between the lawyer and the said agency, everything would be fine. The 4 installment had to be met.

    A lawsuit was filed for this last amount because there were so many defects that had to be repaired by a possible contractor. The case was eventually won and a small amount would have to be paid to Avalon and after deducting costs the recovery which was never done and the remaining amount would be transferred to me.

    In the meantime, where the friendship between me and the lawyer had grown somewhat, they managed to borrow 200.000 baht from me with a pitiful face for payment of supplies of […]. About two and a half years had now passed. The house became a ruin and the only thing usable was the air conditioner that was stolen.

    I myself no longer wanted to live there and offered the house for sale, but first it had to be in my name and I had to pay the transfer of 107.000 baht again. Finally through a broker I was able to sell it for 1.000.000 baht and 50.000 baht brokerage fees, my loss 2.000.000 baht and never repaid loan of 200.000 and 30.000 back through court is still credit 230.000. Fortunately I learned a lot from this I bought land and had my house built under my supervision.

    Moderator: Names of persons involved anonymized.


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