The British newspapers The Sun and the Daily Mirror recently wrote an article about Pattaya. In addition, the seaside resort received qualifications such as: “sex capital of the world” and a “modern day Sodom and Gomorrah”. This angered Prime Minister Prayut, who was ashamed of this negative publicity.
He would then have vowed to crack down on illegal businesses and prostitution in Pattaya. Panic in the former fishing village where the local police have a big finger in the pie when it comes to maintaining prostitution, it certainly provides a lot of tea money.
A press conference was hurriedly organized on Tuesday. There, the new policy was announced by officials and the police of Pattaya City: 'Happy zones'. These zones, such as Walking Street, will henceforth be devoid of crime and prostitution.
Police chief Apichai Krobpetch, took it a step further in an interview with Spectrum (Bangkok Post): “Pattaya is not a hub for the sex industry!” He is angry about the stories in the British media: “Prostitution in Pattaya? That does not exist!". “Where do they get the figure of 27.000 sex workers in Pattaya? Anyone can say something like that."
“We are working very hard to address these issues. We patrol every night to make sure there are no prostitutes on the street. We make sure that all bars are lawful and we comply. Thai ladies who have sex with foreigners do so in a personal capacity. If they want to do that and do it behind closed doors, we can't act. As the police chief in charge of this area, I can guarantee that Pattaya is a safe and beautiful destination!”
Read the full article here: www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1205077/no-sex-please-were-thai
Prostitution is sex practiced against payment. That's what De Dikke van Dale says.
Well, not in Pattaya. Learned something again. So I can give everyone the urgent advice not to pay anything more for a seesaw. Then you keep those pennies in your pocket for the dentist because I think you will get a few blows to the head …….
The police are working very hard to solve the problem of non-existing prostitution?
And there's nothing they can do about what goes on behind closed doors, except when they checked short-time hotels on Valentine's Day.
They have a sense of humor called the hermandad
happy zones? I'm curious how something like this will look like. Balloon clowns and barrel organs and all kinds of eateries? Anyway, I still haven't been to Pattaya because the stories I read here and there don't invite me to go there. On the other hand, Gringo has posted many articles that Pattaya is more than The Sun has all recorded.
was in Pattaya yesterday. Where hundreds of women used to stand on the beach to receive a customer, there was now nothing or no one left.
It took some getting used to that silence.
The fear of being arrested is great. The British press is paid for by Thai people who benefit from Minister Prayut being portrayed in a bad light as much as possible.
Have they ever looked at London where the prostitution problem is much bigger than here in Thailand.
What a hypocrite of a journalist.
first look in your own bosom….
That the messenger did it is a very dusty claim. You probably don't believe the earth is round either?
if you want to stay negative well…
The messenger chooses Thailand for a reason. Who says the earth is round?
We also happened to walk along the beach road from Pattaya klang to the walking street on Thursday.
You must be a very potent man if you want to meet all those stray cats waiting for their customers before January 1, 2018.
Pattaya is of course full of bars and that all ladies happen to be hanging around there, well, you sometimes have that in bars, right? And suppose some of those ladies sometimes go with gentlemen not just for fun, but get paid for it, how are those best police officers supposed to suspect that 😉 And so the game between police and ladies of pleasure will continue for hundreds of years as it has been for many thousands of years.
What this police chief says is one of the best jokes ,
that I've ever heard.
You will find prostitution almost everywhere on this planet, but even a police officer cannot deny that Pattaya has made a very big name in this industry. Given the lucrative side income of the Hermandad, I take the police's intervention in connection with prostitution in Pattaya with a grain of salt, and certainly not for a long time. Even less can I understand the anger of the highest political leader (Prayut), who with his politics still contributes to, among other things, enormous financial differences and the often poor educational opportunities for the majority of the population. The result of these abuses is usually that if someone has a job, they often no longer earn the minimum wage, which is known to be too much for dying, and unfortunately too little for life. If a woman with a child is left by her partner, who also has to bear the financial burden of a parent, then the problems begin. Many have their backs against the wall and feel compelled to seek their fortune in Patong, Patpong or Pattaya, among others, as long as they do not have a paying farang, or happen to belong to the so-called better class.
When I read this, it seems that Prayut is the cause of the low wages. I thought that has been done for years by all elected governments. As long as the companies set up the factory for starvation wages, and people pay for what people in the Netherlands don't even get on their bike for and that for 10 to 12 hours of work. (approx. 8 euros per day) and no taxes, sickness benefits and all kinds of insurance have been deducted from this.
Bar and restaurants pay their staff 100 to 300 baht per day and that they further depend on the goodness of the customers, who put money on their pillow, the tips in the restaurants. The lady drinks.
While they really want to earn something, yes then a short time or long time is to live normally and hope that your children can do an education not to do the same job.
I see it in my immediate vicinity.
Theoweert, I have not written that Prayut alone has caused these low wages, but that he still, (also) contributes to these enormous financial status differences with his politics. Still (also) means that many of his predecessors have already done this.
Thailand is in a similar dilemma with prostitution as the Netherlands with cannabis.
On the one hand it is forbidden and is dealt with harshly, on the other hand it is tolerated under certain conditions.
It is very easy to kick against such policies, but it is very difficult to make better policies.
On the one hand, the aim is not to criminalize 'both parties', in this case the small user and the small supplier, but on the other hand, to prevent 'companies' from getting involved for profit reasons.
It goes without saying that there are quite a few snags here, but I think the underlying idea is good: As much freedom as possible for the individual citizen, without playing into the hands of criminal organizations or giving them free reign.
That there is a snake-bitten reaction in Thailand to the tabloid journalism from the United Blessed Omniscient Kingdom is entirely justified.
You don't pay for sex in pattaya but you pay the lady to leave again
Pattaya. Prostitution capital of the world. That is a unique recognition. And rightly so too.
In every country prostitution is the poorer the people the more, why do they abandon the women with a child that is theirs. Let the producers pay for it.
And don't put the mothers with their backs against the wall, who have to take care of the child alone.
Thailand, a fantastic country with beautiful nature and beaches, very friendly people, tropical temperatures, delicious food and, last but not least, very affordable! These promises alone were the temptation I succumbed to many years ago to take my first holiday in Thailand. All my expectations came true and were exceeded! Not my intention at all, on the contrary, but as a single person I quickly succumbed to all that Thai beauty. For the first time in my life I paid for a night of togetherness. Strangely enough, I didn't consider it prostitution. I wasn't used to it either and I found my financial contribution, in retrospect of course euphoric, more as a contribution to contributing to the livelihood of the 'teelak' in question. Only later did I end up in Pattaya. Now (too often) referred to as the 'Sex Capital' of the world or 'Sin City', but what does it really matter how you call it? Pattaya has undeniably contributed to promoting tourism to Thailand and for many Pattaya also owes its charm to this. I find it hypocritical to transform Pattaya into a 'family destination' now that it no longer fits in with the so-called mainstream view. But what I think doesn't matter, everything revolves around money and the past doesn't count for the future. I personally doubt whether Pattaya would remain attractive without all the pleasures that are now available. The beach is of little value and if all 'non-existent prostitution' and the associated bars were to be linked, I do not believe in an improved future for the residents/visitors of Pattaya. Besides, Prayut should be worrying about a lot of other things!
To make you laugh. Deceives himself.
Another article that is exclusively about the 'ladies', all other types are once again excluded. Look at Boysztown, Sunee Plaza and Jomtien Complex with all those male sex workers. Even the bar owners are paid for it through so-called buyouts. So they are in fact pimps. The bars will continue to exist, the police are hungry for protection money. Partly because of this, the 'free' entrepreneurs have to make way.
Just globalization. The sex industry is Thailand's contribution. There is a demand in the world for sex with young women. The means of transport cheap and efficient. So supply and demand in the world come together easily.
In my opinion, the article in the British press has not been lied to very much. I have been coming to Thailand for decades and I am married to a Thai. You can see Pattaya as an enclave within Thailand. Here everything is shown openly, from sex to drugs and from minor to major crime.
Mr Prayut would only have to calculate what it would cost the Thai economy if he did indeed “close” Pattaya, so to speak. Billions I estimate and the tourists who now come especially for the offer of Pattaya do not go to a beautiful beach in Thailand but simply to Cambodia or even Vietnam.
All in all, it will also be a storm in a teacup.
Incidentally, they can sometimes do something about the tourist police. They behave like colonizers towards the Thais. So you don't get anywhere with that (and they take more tea money)
Here, too, the devil lies in the definition, because what is prostitution? And not according to the Dutch dictionary but according to the Thai.
The meaning in common usage is sometimes/often not the same as the official, legal name. After oral sex with Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton could say: “I did NOT have sex with that woman”, because according to US jurisprudence, oral sex does not fall under the definition of sex. So he wasn't lying.
That's how it will be here too. Inviting a Thai woman to come with you to your hotel room is – in Pattaya – a form of entertainment (or development aid?). You give her breakfast and some money the next morning, but that has nothing to do with the time she spent with you, any kind of service (using the toilet or shower) or the number of orgasms (her and/or or yours).
In my condo building live a number of Thai women who - for a certain monthly monetary payment - play the mistress of a (married) Thai man. One of them has no other job and has three regular lovers and some casual contacts. Another does it alone with a married policeman. Is this prostitution? If you are sure you can say so.
The definition of prostitution is the same in the Netherlands and Thailand: the provision of sexual services for payment or other compensation. If a man has a mistress and they both do it out of mutual love and/or sexual pleasure and there is no money or goods in return, then it is not prostitution. Of course there are always borderline cases where we can differ in opinion. A mia noi who is well paid in Thailand is usually considered 'a prostitute' (except in high society) even though many people will not use that word out of a certain sense of decency.
The Thai proper word for prostitute is โสเภณี or sǒpheenie. Literally it means 'beautiful, handsome woman'. You usually hear กะหรี่ kàriè and that is a mean swear word: 'Whore!' And then there are some words in between.
And oral sex is still illegal in 13 states in the US…but necrophilia isn't….
Prostitution as a concept is also difficult for Western concepts.
Suppose you meet a girl somewhere and you invite her to dinner (which you only pay for) and then a drink at home and everything that follows.
Is that prostitution?
If you had told her come home with me and we'll have sex she probably wouldn't have come.
Did that paid dinner turn the girl into a prostitute?