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Home » Background » The garbage problem in Pattaya
The garbage problem in Pattaya
The “Black Petes” has begun. After the heavy rainfall of recent weeks and the flooding in large parts of the city, the problem of the mountain of waste has come to the fore. Now there is fierce debate as to who is responsible for this.
The city council appoints residents and tourists for this purpose. These would be careless with the garbage, which would clog the drains. However, the population blames the government for a lack of waste treatment. According to the residents, it takes far too long for rubbish to be removed from the houses, so that a lot of rubbish is deposited along the side of the road.
Many garbage bags are broken by street dogs and cats, causing the dirt to spread. The garbage collection service refuses to deploy more vehicles, while citizens want them to come by more often.
The city council admits that errors of judgment were made, but that the current garbage depots are full and there are no alternatives available.
The problem resolves itself.
The more rubbish there is floating around, the less tourists will come and the less rubbish will be added.
An equilibrium naturally arises.
Otherwise there is always plan B.
Dump all rubbish into the sea miles from the coast, preferably in a place where the current will carry it elsewhere.
This is probably already happening with the waste from the islands.
Dear Ruud, I think you wrongly blame the tourist. I have been living in Thailand for quite some time, albeit not in a touristic place, but in the Isaan. What struck me from the start and what annoys me to this day is that the Thai himself, after opening a package of any kind, drops it on the spot on the spot. Yeah they just let it fall out of their hands. That also happened at my house, on the terrace, until I commented on it and she pointed out the waste bins present. The first looks were really unbelievable, like "why do I have to throw it in there?"
This is a real problem in Thailand. I have also noticed that in large cities, such as Khon Kaen and Bangkok, you do not see any waste bins on the street. As a native of Rotterdam, I know about drowning in your own waste and have done a lot against it and with success. It is an annoying and well-known habit of a Thai not to clean up his or her garbage. Also in traffic, just open the window, take out residual waste and quickly close it again because of the air conditioning! Perhaps the tourist in Pattaya also participates in this, but they are in any case invited to do so when they see the horrific heaps of rubbish along the road.
Perhaps the ANWB still has a few of those old signs: "Don't leave the peels and the boxes as a thank you for the pleasant linger, the owner of the area". A clean living environment really starts with you!
I'm not saying tourists throw their rubbish on the ground, but they do produce waste.
That waste is put by someone on the side of the road to be picked up.
If there are fewer tourists, less waste will be produced, and there will be less waste on the side of the road.
I know that the Thai make a mess of it.
I also see garbage everywhere along the roads.
That is certainly not from tourists, because they are not here.
It is possible that there is no dumping site for (construction) waste.
At least I wouldn't be able to find it.
When I first came to the village where I live, there was garbage everywhere on the street.
I once asked the village chief why Thai people like to live on a rubbish dump.
He couldn't think of an answer to that, but the village did start to get a lot cleaner after that.
So sometimes something is accepted from a foreigner.
The problem is very simple, everyone has a certain responsibility, local authorities, the government. What I miss in Thailand is a good garbage collection system. You can hardly dispose of bulky waste, there is no ghat and efficient collection system for this. Then the processing of the many waste. Many are to blame for that. Pointing the finger at each other and blaming each other is pointless and solves nothing. They must jointly ensure a good collection and processing system and jointly put their shoulders to the wheel. But it is a problem that has existed for a long time and has always been looked the other way by the governments involved. Is nothing being done about this? Then Ruud will be right. But that does not solve the problem and is only very bad for the economy and the country. So governments and residents take your responsibility.
I do not agree that it takes too long for household waste to be collected. I live in Pattaya in a side street of Soi Buakhao where the garbage is collected every day. Yes you read it right. The cause of the waste problem lies on the one hand with the Thai themselves, who will have to get a different mindset with regard to dealing with waste, and on the other hand, with the government, which must plan ahead and not only think when there is a problem. It is too easy to blame the tourist. But this is Thailand so you can easily solve this problem by introducing a tourist waste tax, for example.
typical Black Petes. Not uncommon in Thailand. Doesn't matter who is responsible for it. The municipality should take measures both to reduce the production of waste and to collect and destroy the waste. However, trading is not immediately a strong point in Thailand.
The waste problem in Thailand is gigantic, do not understand that the international community keeps looking away from this, let them release some development money to solve this problem in Asia
The African dictators may have a little less to spend, but that's besides the point
Doesn't seem very difficult to set up good waste processing companies, there's plenty of room in Asia, then they don't have to throw their waste into the sea, so that the egoistic system might still be salvageable.
It's five to twelve
It is indeed correct what Paul says, I also live in Isaan and I have to tell my Taise friend and her daughter every day to put the rubbish in the bin, otherwise I would also be in the dirt, but fortunately my opinion is accepted, but that doesn't work for all Thais.
Nowadays you also see a lot of Thai people opening the garbage bags that are on the street for collection, digging into them to take out plastic and glass bottles, and once they have taken them out for their useful items, they simply throw them away. leave the rubbish you have made on the street and move on to the next pile of bags.
And that is why we separate the "valuables" neatly and put it in a separate bag on top of the garbage bag. Easy for the people who want it and saves us having to swap the rubbish from the street in the morning
The Thai people who rummage in the garbage cans and bags at night and in the morning provide for their (surplus) livelihood. At least they do selective garbage collection. They sort and start a chain of recycling and reuse of raw materials. I can't blame them, even though the neighbors' dogs wake me up every time the garbage is scavenged. The governments and administrators who literally blow all this away show a scandalous lack of social responsibility and also display their stupidity.
No, the idea that waste is (also) raw material is still very little alive in Thailand, hardly among the population and apparently even less among its leaders. As long as this is the case in Thailand, waste in its many forms will continue to exist as an almost insoluble problem.
Over the past few decades, I have seen with regret how the land and its seas, especially the Thai Gulf, became increasingly dirty, how the waste appeared and grew more and more intrusive everywhere. A true cancer that is eating away at the country.
The amounts of rubbish that wash up on the beaches in the Gulf of Thailand every spring when the monsoon winds turn have become staggering. The “plastic soup” at sea must already be gigantic.
The big culprits are all those malls, super makests and shops that put all purchases in plastic bags. Mandatory to accept whether you want to or not. Terrible hassle.