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Home » Flight tickets » Lufthansa strike: Flights to Bangkok canceled on Thursday
German airline Lufthansa canceled 84 of its 153 scheduled long-haul flights on Thursday, including those to Bangkok, due to a pilot strike. The flight schedule will also be disrupted by the strike on Friday, the company said.
Lufthansa pilots started their two-day strike on Wednesday. They protest against the cuts Lufthansa wants to implement, including an increase in the retirement age. Due to the action, 750 of the 1400 scheduled flights were canceled on Wednesday. This concerned domestic and European flights.
Analysts think that the damage to Lufthansa from the strike could amount to around 15 million euros per day. Pilots from Lufthansa and budget subsidiary Germanwings have recently campaigned against the company's savings plans.
Source: Lufthansa.com – www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Travel-information
I fly 2 x a year from Brussels to Bangkok where my Asian journey starts again. Never take a European airline again. I'm very happy that the day I leave there is no train strike. Always fly from Brussels to Bangkok with Thai airways. Recommended.
Eddie,
They do not leave in the WE or on a public holiday. I also do from Brussels.
First KLM now Lufthansa. Should they continue well?
Other airlines LOVE to take over the passengers.
Stupid stupid 'managers'
As a former Lufthansa employee I feel sympathy for the strikes…. what people have fought for years through negotiations, is now being broken down piece by piece and chopped into pieces. The pressure is increasing, the money less, because the customer wants to go to Bangkok for 300 euros.
The management manages itself richly and the workers have to surrender…
Fortunately I was able to stop in time and had good times. But what is going on now (I still get a lot from internal Luthansa forums) is too much for me.
I was happy with my job as a flight attendant and was planning to extend for a year or two, but when I saw what was coming my way, I thought I could live well in Thailand with less money and quit when I could . I don't regret that.
The problem is not that people want to go to Bangkok for 300 euros, but that there are companies that let you fly to Bangkok for 300 euros (a little more than).
That is simply not a price at which you can make money and is purely intended to make other companies with a higher cost structure go bankrupt.
Just like the supermarkets used to work the milkman out by selling the milk below cost price.
Lufthansa has two options.
Lower the cost of their product, or go bankrupt.
So you have to ask yourself what is better for the staff.
And a strike costing 15 million a day will certainly not improve the situation.
The competition from the Emirates is killing for European airlines.
They will have to bend and/or cut back.
So both Sjaak and Ruud are right.
There are only 2 winners, the stunt companies and the passengers who fly them.
Don't know if that's how fast it goes David.
For example, I am more of a business flyer. Be on the KLM flight AMS-BKK or vice versa at least 16 times a year. For me, especially the travel time and the flight schedule are more important than the few 100 euros that you could possibly save on a flight from Brussels or if you go via the Middle East. So I am not waiting for intermediate stops that take time or extra fumbling with trains.
That it doesn't matter that much to you as a family or single person on vacation or otherwise not time-bound for that one time, that's up to that point. But if I usually just look at the passengers on the KLM flight, it strikes me that the number of real holidaymakers is not that high. Of course you don't know what everyone normally does, but during the high season you see, for example, a completely different type of passenger getting on the plane. And also that the number of frequent flyers is very low at that time, for example at check-in or boarding, where only a handful get priority. I can't back that up with statistics, but that's just the impression I get myself.
Then you have EVA airlines and China Airways. They also have excellent service during the flight and also important, their change conditions are simply favorable. But their biggest drawback for me is their schedule. KLM flies daily where EVA and China only fly 3 times a week. In addition, China airways, for example, has an annoying departure time from Bangkok that in many cases would cost me an extra day in bangkok, while with KLM's departure time I can simply leave on the day itself. But 3 days a week is just by far the hardest. For example, if I had to be at the company in Europe 2 days later, with EVA and china airways you just have a chance that you are unlucky and have to wait a day longer, or have to fly via another airline.
In addition, many European companies such as SAS, Lufthansa, Austria Airways, KLM, etc. have better connections to various smaller European destinations.
As a business flyer, you are probably in business class.
However, if you had to fly in economy 16 times a year, you'd probably think differently.
A few years ago I was able to “enjoy” the new economy interior of KLM once and that was also the last time for me.
I recently took a look at the “comfort” zone (160 Euro each way), but there were so many complaints about it that I opted for China airlines with the old interior.
So that's a misconception.
Unless the business rate is really cheap, I usually sit economy.
If you have a single return per year then business class is nice, but if you talk about that many flights then you are talking about more than 10.000 euros in extra ticket costs alone on top of the normal costs you normally already have in economy. There are very few employers who just tick that off and when it comes to your own business, you must already have a substantial company if you want to be able to justify that. Unless you are CEO of a multinational then it will be a bit easier.
Or it must be a European flight, but then that business class is almost nothing again.
The vast majority of business flyers or people who travel a lot for work almost all fly economy.
Well, luckily I don't have to make a decision about that. It's not easy. When a company pays out profits, you don't hear anyone complain. Nevertheless, I am sure that these strikes are the last resort and that the strikers know what they are doing and what it costs.
They will certainly have had other proposals as well.
I hope for everyone this is over soon. It all started in 2012 and as I wrote, I just escaped.
@ Sjaak: Will Lufthansa still exist in 5 years? Or is it still partly government? I fly with them regularly and I am quite positive about them. What often strikes me in responses to flying topics is that cabin crew must have a wow factor. I sometimes call it Playboy Airlines, which is what many would like. I regularly fly with American airlines and you see a lot of older cabin crew there. And some may not believe it, but they manage to see me as a customer and provide me with food and drinks. And they also make a profit and conclude excellent collective labor agreements with staff. All thanks to their 'oldies'
Dear Jack,
Lufthansa is one of the few airlines in Europe that has grown so big at its own expense. When the oil crisis and the invasion of Kuwait drove everyone to bankruptcy, because no one dared to fly anymore, I received unemployment benefits for a while and still flew as a flight attendant. This was because Lufthansa could not pay its own people. But not in itself support from the government.
Then Jürgen Weber came as Vorstand and this man, who also came from the kite world, has brought Lufthansa back to the top.
No, the cabin crew is not the youngest. There are still many young people, but also many older people who work at LH. And that is especially good for regular customers. Why? Because an older colleague can respond much better to a customer's wishes. Normal conversations can also be had for once, because the generation gap is not that big. Many customers (who fly in business or first class) are also of slightly more mature age.
I have flown many flights to Japan, especially in the last years of my working time at LH. I was often told by pursers that our Japanese guests were very satisfied with me. Why? Because I was older and because I spoke a few words (phrases) of Japanese. As an older person, you also have a different appearance than younger people. That's not to say that it's not fun to work with young colleagues and it also looks nice when you have a beautiful 25 year old serving you… a good combination is the balance you need on such a flight.
I may still be very Lufthansa minded… (after all, I have worked there with full satisfaction for 30 years), that's why I personally see it a bit differently… for me Lufthansa is just like a Mercedes. You have to pay for it. But then you also have something solid.
It may be that another airline offers a little more frills, but Lufthansa need not be ashamed of its offer. I have also flown with other airlines. So far I have found my own company to be the best. It's not just the wine you get or the food served. It's the whole package. And Lufthansa is doing a lot about that. That also costs a bit more.
In terms of safety alone, Lufthansa is on a very high ladder. The inspections that the aircraft receive every time are optimal. How long ago was there an accident with LH? I can still remember Warsaw, but after that?
Again: Lufthansa is not sponsored and has to bear everything on its own shoulders. Not easy.
The pilot strike is very stressful for the company. However, I am sure that these do not do so without reason.