Thailand Visa Question No. 163/20: Non-Immigrant OA Visa – Bank Receipt of Monthly Income
Questioner: Rob
I am in the process of collecting all the documents for obtaining a Non Immigrant OA Visa at the Thai Embassy in The Hague. One of the required documents is an official letter from the bank where you are a customer confirming that you are a customer there and that you actually receive a certain amount per month as income on your account.
My bank is the SNS bank. Today, October 5, I have been in contact with them and they told me that such a letter is NEVER issued and that such a letter is also unknown to them in the “standard letters” to customers. They told me that a printed month or months with all deposits from income providers should suffice. In addition, the Thai embassy will see the bank's logo. A copy of the debit card with the same account number on it makes it complete.
I would like to read experiences of other recent applicants for the Non Immigrant OA visa who have heard the same thing from their bank. Or just from banks that do issue such a letter.
Reaction RonnyLatYa
I can track the bank somewhere. They cannot confirm that a certain amount of money is deposited as income every month. Yes, money has been deposited.
If you use a monthly income, you must request proof of this from the income provider(s) to prove the amount of income.
See link “…or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income…”
The bank can then provide a printed version with their logo and signature that proves that this amount or amounts have been deposited into your account in the last month or months. Just like they say. In this case, signing should normally not be a problem because it does not prove that this is your monthly income, but that the print was issued by them. Your name is also normally on there as an account holder.
It is different when you would use a bank amount. The bank can then officially declare and guarantee that on the day of drawing up the statement there is a certain amount in the account.
“- A copy of bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht…”
“- In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.”
But maybe there are readers who have experience applying for a Non-immigrant OA in The Hague and want to share their experience.
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Regards,
RonnyLatYa
Hello Rob,
Regarding the proof of income, with my application at the time (2016) I requested a statement of registered income from the central tax administration and a pension specification from my pension fund, had it translated into English by a sworn translator who then legalized it at the court , have these documents legalized at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in The Hague, everything was also stamped again by the Thai Embassy, all documents were accepted by the Thai Embassy, of course there are costs involved, I don't remember what cost me the translation at the time,
hope it helps you, good luck,
Jan
Proof of income is not required to be translated and legalised.
Everyone should know that it is done on their own initiative, but if this is not explicitly requested by the embassy, you should not incur those costs.
Hi Ronnie,
of the documents I received from my pension fund and tax authorities (2016) no English translations were available only in the Dutch language, and the Thai Embassy asks for a document in English, which is why I had to have everything translated and legalized, don't know how it is now
Jan
It is not explicitly stated that this must be in English. Same for a bank receipt.
This is stated for the other documents.
ING bank does give me a letter with a statement that on the day the statement is drawn up, there is a certain amount in the account, but not of monthly income.
There are also many strict requirements from the Thai embassy. For example, there must be a statement that you are free of leprosy, elephantiasis, TB, drug addiction and 3rd stage syphilis. GP does not issue this statement. KLM Health Service does not, Tropencentrum does not, GGD does not. May I ask how Rob solved this?
These and 3 other statements must be validated by a notary… Phew
(Hope Thailandblog will allow me to ask this question.)
For my application for the same visa, I received a neat letter from the ING Bank stating my savings balance.(!)
In Thailand you can get it in almost every hospital. For reimbursement of costs.
I'm afraid you misread the question: it's about a letter from the bank...
I am in NL, need that statement in NL for visa OA
And what does that help someone who is going to apply for a visa in The Hague?
Rob,
Why not print out all credits and debits and the balance over the last 3 months, with the bank's logo on it, as is sufficient for the application of a Non-Immigrant “O”?
Hello Theo,
That was accepted at my Non O, but now they want proof that you are really a customer (SNS bank) with a statement that there is a certain amount on it on a certain date. However, my SNS bank unfortunately does not issue such a letter and statement. Why is a mystery to me.
Yours faithfully,
Rob
Strange, also considering the further reactions.
You may be dealing with a new employee in that department. Someone who does not (yet) know that, contrary to the practice in Thailand, it is very unusual in the Netherlands for a bank to issue such statements.
I would suggest that you write an email that you have tried to get a written statement, but most Dutch banks, unlike Thai banks, do not provide that. That in the past when you applied for a Non-Immigrant “O” visa, a printout of the credits, debits and balance over the last 3 months was accepted as proof of income and assets. Perhaps suggest that you are even willing to hand in an entire year's review.
Not shot, always miss.
You may not compare Non-O and Non-OA in terms of evidence. The differences are not just financial, by the way.
With regard to finances, it is written as follows:
– Non-O – The Hague (Single/Multiple)
– Evidence of adequate finance and that's it.
https://hague.thaiembassy.org/th/page/76474-non-immigrant-visa-o-(others)?menu=5d81cce815e39c2eb8004f0f
-Non-O – Amsterdam (Single only)
– Copy of the bank statements of the last two months with ; your name, current positive balance of 1.000 euros, all debits and credits, your pension/aow.
https://www.royalthaiconsulate-amsterdam.nl/visum-toelichting/
Non-OA The Hague
– A copy of bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht
– In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.
I compared the financial requirements of a Non-immigrant OA in Brussels for “fun”.
I know that you are not up to par in The Hague, but the requirements in The Hague are not that exceptional
“An original attestation (scanned/electronic version is not accepted) from the bank with at least 800.000 bahts or min. 25.000 € (bank in Thailand or in Belgium) + 1 copy, + 2 copies of the bank statements from the last 3 months of this bank account OR an attestation (original version) which mentions that you receive at least 65,000 baht per month as well as bank statements of the last 3 months which prove that you receive that amount. The communication on the bank statement must indicate that concern your monthly pension.
https://www.thaiembassy.be/visa/
You write: They told me that a printed month or months with all deposits from income providers should suffice.
So that's the rabo saying this.
Can I confirm. The same requirement applies to a non O. I've been printing out a few pages of my bank statement for years. Was always accepted.
Hello John,
My SNS bank writes / says that this should suffice, but the Thai embassy in The Hague says that they also want proof that you are really a customer (SNS bank) with a statement that a certain amount is on it on a certain date.
Regards,
Rob
When I see all those requirements for an O_A visa, I really don't understand why you don't just go for an O visa.
Can't you just extend that per year in Thailand?
You may have missed that you can currently return to TH as an OA visa holder, and not (yet?) with an O.
At the moment you cannot enter with an O visa.
I have a valid O, with re-entry… but alas
The statement from the bank or pension fund seems to me to be the least problem.
That specific health statement is nowhere to be found as far as I can see.
On top of that there are the Covid rules.
I doubt whether OA is being granted to Belgians/Dutch people at the moment.
I have experience in applying for a Non Immigrant OA Visa in The Hague as well as in Chiang Mai.
In both cases – because I don't have a Thai bank account – I made statements of my income and expenses for the last 3 months. It shows my bank balance and my pension income. I also made a printout of my savings balance.
Then I also made a printout of my pension data. (pension letter)
Everything can be “collected” via logging in to my bank (ING), resp. the pension provider.
In Thailand I still had to add the support letter to the Embassy in Bangkok for the extension. This letter is drawn up by submitting the above documents. A tax return was not required.
I hope it is of some use for you.