When you visit as a tourist Thailand you do not need to apply for a visa if you leave the country within 30 days.
However, remember that letting your visa expire can have serious consequences.
Tourist visa for 30 days
All tourists entering Thailand must present a completed arrival/departure card upon arrival. You get this on the plane and counts as a tourist visa for 30 days. For a stay of more than 30 days, Dutch holidaymakers must apply for a visa. This can be done through the Thai consulate in Amsterdam or at the consular department of the Thai embassy in The Hague.
Also remember that you must be in possession of a valid passport, which is valid for at least six months upon departure from Thailand.
Serious consequences when your visa expires
If your visa expires during your stay in Thailand, this is a criminal offense under Thai law. Any visa-required visitor who does not have a valid Thai visa may be arrested by the Thai immigration authorities.
Upon entering Thailand, your personal data will be registered, including a photo. When you leave, your details of entry are therefore always known to the immigration service. Although it is usually possible to pay a fine when your Thai visa has expired, staying illegally in Thailand is a criminal offense for which you can be arrested.
Arrested for illegal stay
Usually you get off with a settlement in the form of a hefty fine. You then pay for each day that your visa has expired (500 baht per day). The following regulation is in effect before the expiry of the period for which the visa is valid:
- Exceeding the length of stay from 1 to 21 days: pay a fine of 500 Baht per day at the airport/land border.
- Exceeding 22 to 41 days: pay a fine of 500 Baht per day, possibly arrest/detention, deportation, possibly on a blacklist.
- Exceeding 42 days or more: pay a fine up to 20.000 Baht, arrest/detention, deportation, possibly blacklisted.
If you cannot pay the fine, you will be arrested. In that case, an alternative prison sentence will be imposed. You have to sit this out and then you will be taken to the Immigration Detention Center (IDC) in Bangkok. The living conditions there are appalling and even worse than in regular prisons. As long as you cannot pay the fine and cannot show a ticket to the Netherlands, you will remain stuck. In some cases, people detained in the IDC have to wait many months, if not years, for family or friends to transfer the necessary money for the fine and ticket.
Embassy options limited
The embassy is not allowed to provide financial assistance for fines and fines travel and can only be helpful in passing on data to the DCM/CA department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. They will take care of the coordination to inform your family or friends, who in turn will have to transfer the necessary money.
Only when you pay the fine for your illegal stay and have a ticket home in your possession will you be deported. This means that you will be accompanied by the Thai immigration authorities to the gate at the airport.
Avoid these kinds of problems and make sure that your visa does not expire. A forewarned tourist counts for three.
Source: Dutch embassy in Bangkok, among others
While filling in the arrival/departure card, I always find the question about my income very striking. The Thai are very keen to know someone's income, so much so that it is one of the first questions you need to answer before entering the country.
On the street, students also often ask me to fill in a survey. There, too, the question of what my salary is comes up.
You must – to live in Thailand – have an income above 800.000 Bath. or the savings in a Thai bank and the income per year is equal to it.
Many people come to Thailand, meet someone nice and want to stay.
However, you cannot open a Thai account with a tourist visa shorter than 3 months
and you must have a permanent home address.
There is something to arrange under the table, but it is certainly no guarantee and they still ask 20-30.000 baht.
Because foreigners (no income in Thailand) who live there do not pay taxes, the question may seem strange, but it does indicate that you can spend money in the country.
moderator: Ko, you start every comment without a capital letter. Please pay attention to that.
I never fill in the back of the arrival/departure card (including a question about income). Immigration never said anything about it. I think that data is for the Tourist Association of Thailand.
On Suvarnabhumi, 1 day overstay is given as a gift. If you stay in the country for 2 days too long, you pay for 2 days; the gift then expires. The extra day does not apply when crossing a country border.
Hi Piet, just saw your comment regarding the question about your income.
Weird I have been coming to Thailand several times a year for about 9 years now, your first one about filling in your arrival / departure is correct. But other than my wife I've never had any questions about it.
The students who ask you to fill in a survey on the street are, in 90% of the cases, people who work for a time-sharing company.
Yes, they will want to know if you have enough money 🙂
When they ask where I'm from, I always say: Buriram.
Then they are immediately no longer interested in the rest of the "survey"
Moderator: Your comment has nothing to do with the topic. Do you want to pay attention to that from now on?
Suppose you have an accident just before you leave Thailand (after 29 days) and you end up in the hospital. When you are finally allowed to go home after three weeks, the authorities are so strict. Do they have nothing to do with that and you will be arrested, plus pay a hefty fine. Isn't it force majeure? I wonder if anyone has an answer to this.
@ Lenny, in that case the hospital will contact the authorities. Of course there are exceptions.
A good hospital will arrange that for you very quickly, they are happy with your arrival and the money.
This has already happened very often.
: )
Of course that is force majeure and they will also arrange that nicely for you. That is also the reason - which is the case almost everywhere in the world - that your passport must be valid for at least 6 months.
That is no problem with a medical statement from a Thai hospital that takes care of it. You will then receive an extension and again a few more times until you are able to handle this yourself. But the good news is that you no longer have to go to the Thai embassy or consulate in the Netherlands for a visa, because Thailand also has after Cambodia and Burma agreed to an E-Visa at the World Forum conference. This means that you can apply for a visa via the internet.
I have also been fined for this. But I find the explanation about the Thai visa very unclear and I don't know how to act yet.
Last year I went to Thailand for 3,5 months, I applied for a visa for 6 months and received it with 2 entries. I thought I would have to leave the country after 3 months and re-enter. then I have another 3 months stay. But after 2,5 months I had a death in the family and had to go back, I am told at the airport that I am in the country illegally and have to pay 11000 bath otherwise I cannot leave the country.
Well, I also read that when you leave the country for your visa, you only get a 14-day extension even if you have a 6-month visa. Is there someone who can explain this to me and whether you can also extend your stay in another way
computing
When you go away (from Thailand). You must always first fill out a re-entry form and pay for it at the local immigration office. Provided you don't want to lose your 2nd "entry" or any visa whatsoever.
If you do nothing and leave, you lose your visa.
It is very well possible that you had a visa for 2 x 90 days. The fact that you experienced this after +/- 75 days can only indicate that you either did something wrong or that they gave you a wrong stamp somewhere.
Those 14 days are correct, you are then a kind of "backpacker" and if you don't have your affairs in order you will lose them as soon as you take a step across the border. By plane you get 30 days, by the way. good luck!
Sorry one more time. 11.000 Baht? Isn't that 22 days? I'm making up some scenarios but I can't figure out how to do this with the possibilities.
75 days – 14 = 61 days overstay
75 days – 30 = 45 days overstay
75 days – 90 = 0 days overstay
I think this is not possible at all and you have been cheated or you have been disappointed because you had to pay more…. crab crab crab
Each re-entry is valid for 90 days. so if you have to leave the country on Monday (with a new visa of 1 day old), all previous 89 days will have expired and the new period of 90 days will immediately start upon entry. Laos is your whole year visa.
I think there are also annual visas with multiple re-enrtys (eg: O-visa). So for example 4 times a week to laos and your visa is not finished yet! :)
leo
YOU say it. I have such a visa and according to the head of immigration in Hua Hin I can re-enter the country 3 times. I have to apply again for every other border crossing. The Thai embassy in the Netherlands also confirms this. But it may be that there are visas (business, students) where the regulations are different.
Yes, I have a 2-year multiple entry visa. I can leave and re-enter Thailand 20-30 times if necessary. Since my company is BOI promoted, you will receive a note in your passport and you have many extra options. This way you no longer have to queue at passport control, but you have a separate lane for BOI.
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As a Dutch citizen you can have the visa extended up to 60 days (via the Thai embassy in NL) without any problem. I know a lot of people who have problems with their visa, but it's because they don't follow the rules and it's that simple. Just look on the internet, download the correct forms, fill them in and go to immigration. Otherwise there are plenty of people at the immigration office who want to help you. I am always outside within 5 minutes with an extended or new year visa.
Then you don't live in BKK haha, sat there once for 9 hours to extend my study visa.
Don't forget that mistakes have been made. For example, once I had a “red” stamp saying that I had “serveral” tourist visa and they MIGHT reject it next time. "serveral" is 3 or more times and it wasn't. Could be rejected was also not so I noticed in Laos and I knew nothing.
12.000 Baht for a 14 day stamp. Once back in Chiang Mai, I was left with a passport that was valid for less than 6 months. New applications to BKK, get another 14-day stamp in between. It was not possible to send it. Back to BKK, collect passport and start all over again.
I really hadn't done anything wrong, even my school said this. Fortunately I have a study visa again and now I continue to study Thai.
Also wear a shirt at immigration, if they don't like something they can reject you.
And did the person in question in front of you have his wife just a Dutch fling... laugh but it's possible hahaha 🙂
Finally: Yes, usually we make the mistake and not them, but not always.
There is of course a lot of bureaucracy in Thailand and for a new Dutch passport you indeed have to go – in person – to the Dutch embassy in Bangkok. I only had to add (this was 2 weeks ago) an envelope addressed to myself that was stamped. within 1 week they came to deliver the new passport in Hua Hin.
Yes, but if you are in Thailand, you cannot extend your visa in the Netherlands, or do I have to do so in writing.
I had a visa for 2x 90 days and after 82 days I had to pay 11000 baht.
I was in the country illegally for 22 days.
Can you only stay in Thailand for 60 days?
Or do you have to renew after 60 days? if so where? at the border you only get 14 days
Yes, maybe they put the wrong stamp when entering bkk
I hope I hear something
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Yes, the penny falls with me… After the 60 days you have not registered for the other 30 days, and therefore have not paid for it.
82 days – 60 = 22
22 x 500 = 11.000 Baht
Beats like a bus.
I have standard 90 days but as a tourist it is 60 + 30. For the last 30 days you have to pay the same full whack as I did for 90 days at a non immigration.
Sorry but the fault is yours.
You can stay in Thailand for 60 days with a visa from the Thai embassy in Amsterdam or The Hague. 30 days is always allowed. if you want longer, you must apply for an annual visa at the Thai embassy in NL. However, you will have to leave the country every 90 days to revalidate the visa. somewhere across the border (by car or boat) and a stamp and it is again arranged for 90 days (with an annual visa) If you do not have an annual visa, you always have to leave the country by plane and go to a Thai embassy abroad. Friends had also received the wrong visa (through the travel agency) and had to fly from Hua Hin to Laos, then to the Thai embassy and back again. An American girlfriend had made it really fur and now "as punishment" has to leave the country by plane every 30 days and return the next day, for 1 year. If you plan to stay longer, get a multi-entry annual visa. It is always cheaper than all the misery and costs in Thailand. It is a bit of paperwork in the Netherlands, but everything is arranged within 3 days and you have the right papers at home.
Thank you
So if I understand correctly I can cross the border every 90 days with an annual visa and then I get 90 days again (4x a year) and not like they say you only get 14 days
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Yes, with an annual visa you can stay in Thailand for 5x 3 months. So if you plan it well, you will benefit from it for 15 months.
The disadvantage is that an annual visa is difficult to obtain.
You can extend a tourist visa in Thailand at immigration for a fee of approximately 2000 baht, you can then stay 30 days longer, so 3 instead of 2 months. It does cost you a ride to immigration and a few hours of waiting for a very cramped seat.
If you have an annual visa, you must indeed leave the country every 90 days. Unless you are over 50, have a permanent address in Thailand and an income above 800.000 bath. No doubt there will be other exceptions as well. After that, your visa is valid for another 90 days. Immigration in Thailand itself may only extend to 7 days. So in theory, with a 60-day visa (via the Thai embassy in the Netherlands), you can smuggle 7 more days with the permission of the Immigration. (Of course it costs money.)
Just to be clear. I have a 2 year visa and am over 50 years old. And with an income of more than 800.000 baht per year, I no longer have to leave Thailand every 90 days? Still, every time I enter Thailand, I get a date with a maximum stay of 90 days. how do i arrange this?
Your income must be legalized and stamped by the Dutch Embassy in Bangkok. This can be done in writing by means of an annual statement with the form (downloadable via the internet from the NL embassy in Bangkok). an envelope with your own address on it and sufficient postage, I always have it done via EMS, only costs 39 bath)
You must always have a multiple re-entry if you want to leave the country in the meantime. (or arrange before departure at immigration or airport. The latter is risky because if you are already at the airport and it does not work, you will simply miss your flight. But in all cases the new 90 days start upon your return to Thailand and you you lost the previous one. So you have to plan out when you fly or have your visa extended. so 4 times to e.g. NL in half a year is the end of the year visa. I'm going on holiday to the border with Laos next month, but go that border so not over, my visa is immediately valid for almost 3 months shorter Not that it's a bad thing, only I have to apply for a new annual visa 3 months earlier and endure that whole hassle again, I do it 3 times in 1 year, might as well go live at immigration.
Dear Ko,
You wrote:
“So you have to be very careful when you fly or have your visa extended. so 4 times to, for example, NL in six months is the end of the year visa.”
Again: with a multiple entry it is NOT an end of year visa. (multiple means unlimited} You can leave and return to Thailand up to 100 times, each time you will receive a stamp for 90 days.
kind regards, Leo
Dear people,
Who knows this:”is a multiple entry visa (non-immigrant visa) valid for 90 days a year with unlimited entry and exit, or is it valid for 360 days with unlimited entry and exit?
Quote:
”;a 'multi-entry non-immigrant' visa that is valid for 12 months, but which allows you to stay in Thailand for a maximum of 90 consecutive days. You can extend this visa for 12 months under special conditions.”
source: http://www.reizennaarthailand.nl/algemene-informatie/praktische-informatie/grensformaliteiten/
I have to stay in Thailand for 140 days because of my internship, do I have to cross the border after 80 days to get another 90 days>??? (if I have such a multiple entry visa)
I also had a visa. With that visa (annual visa multi non immigrant O) you can leave and enter the country 3 times. There are also visas for students, businessmen, etc., but you have to prove that. Think about one thing well. The annual visa starts on the day of stamping by a Thai embassy and NOT on the day you enter Thailand. Then only the 1 days start counting. (so upon arrival in Thailand). If you leave Thailand and come back again, the new 90-day period will begin. If you are only allowed to leave and re-enter the country 90 times, you have to be careful how you deal with those 3 days. After 90 times, the last 3 days will start. Immigration can extend by 90 days. Otherwise you have to FLY out of the country and apply for a new visa at a Thai embassy in eg Laos or Cambodia. An annual visa (except for the exceptions) is therefore in principle valid for 7 days. Then leave the country with a visa run (by road or by boat or on foot.) And again you have 90 days. Not every border crossing has an immigration office, so you should also look at that.
Dear JT,
According to my info this O-year visa with multiple entries only for “old” people (50plus).
Working/internship is prohibited.
Leo
Dear JT,
follow-up:
Sorry, I didn't read your question properly.
Better contact :
http://www.royalthaiembassy.nl/site/pages/visaservices/doing_business-study-other.html
kind regards, Leo
If I understand correctly there are 2 automatic visas:
Enter the border on foot for 14 days
30 days to air arrive at an airport
Then there is always the 60-day visa that you can extend by 30 days as a tourist.
And then there are many more: marriage, business, study, volunteer work, etc.
90 days per stamp and you don't have to cross the border.
You will lose your visa if you just leave without arranging re-entry.
Dear McVeen,
Do you happen to have experience with “90 days per stamp” visas?
And what do you mean: "you lose your visa if you just leave and don't arrange re-entry". ?
Moderator: You bombard Thailandblog with questions about your personal situation. That's not allowed. There is plenty of information on Thailandblog about Visa and requirements, read that first.
For example, I had to pay 2x overstay at BBK airport with a visa for 90 days.
People do not look at the dates (in / out) of the visa in NL, but at the exit date of the stamp that is put in your passport by immigration upon arrival.
Let that date always be shorter than your visa days.
And yes, those smart Thais have another FARANG in their wallet.
At immigration in Tom-Tien you can then pay properly for the remaining days, even if you have a doctor's letter from Bangkok Hospital Pattaya.
So also pay attention to what is stamped for an exit date at the airport upon entering Thailand.
Ninety days is ninety days, not 3 months. Some months just have 31 days. So if February falls in you are lucky, in a leap year 1 day less lucky.
In my opinion, your passport must be valid for at least 6 months upon entry to Thailand and not just upon departure.
If your passport is still valid for 6 months upon departure, it will certainly be valid upon arrival! What grade did you get in math at school? 😉
It is indeed what MC Veen writes. Even if you have a visa for 90 days, you still have to report to the immigration service after 60 days. And pay of course. Last year it was 1900 bath for me
In Hua Hin it has always happened to me like this. Takes me half an hour at the most.
Mmm, I don't think it's the task of the Marechaussee to check that. That is the traveler's own responsibility, just like a visa. But if the Marechaussee points this out to you, they are very customer-oriented, kudos! I just hope that's why the queues at passport control don't get longer… 😉
@ Khan Peter,
When checking in at the airline in the Netherlands, your passport is always checked for validity. and for most countries it must be 6 months. And then you can indeed get an emergency passport from the Marechaussee!
And when departing from Thailand, I experienced when checking in, I was immediately alerted to overstay (although I knew that myself) and this was stated in the computer. When boarding I was asked for my receipt and stamp from Immigration for payment!
The Marechausse has severely limited the issue of emergency passports. Only theft or loss is still a valid reason. Negligence on the part of the traveler is “a pity then”, go home and arrange a new passport at the municipality and then come back.
MI rightly so, be well informed before you go abroad. I live in Thailand and can only fly within the country with a Dutch passport that is still valid for at least six months.
Thank you for your responses. Very reassuring, should something unexpected happen
Thailand.
Tomorrow I have to go again! Also now I will pay 1900 Baht..
90 new days for my study visa.
What I just heard is that for that, here in Chiang Mai they only help 30 people a day.
Advice: Make sure you are there at 6 o'clock in the morning, the security will then place a book at the gate, put your name in it and then wait until 8 o'clock, then the immigration service will open. If you are among the first 30, you can extend that day.
Just when you think you know it a little bit, something new comes along.
I do recommend that study visa, if you don't remember it for a while.
No rules, just pay for school and activate abroad.
With the next 90 days and even new course years you don't have to cross the border anymore.
It talks about an “income” of 800.000 Baht, or does this mean an “equity” of 800.00 Baht that you have in the bank in Thailand?
There are rules for THAT. But it is viewed in different ways.
The sum of bank and income (or probably one or the other) must be 800.000.
It must only have been on your bank account for 3 months.
You can also go down there. There are several offices that open a bank account with you, deposit 1 baht for 800.000 day (of course they keep all the papers). They guide you to immigration, handle everything and drop you off at home. The next day they come and return the empty bank account to you. Costs 23000 baht.
Dear Ko,
You wrote:
“So you have to be very careful when you fly or have your visa extended. so 4 times to, for example, NL in six months is the end of the year visa.”
Again: with a multiple entry it is NOT an end of year visa. (multiple means unlimited} You can leave and return to Thailand up to 100 times, each time you will receive a stamp for 90 days.
kind regards, Leo
Dear Ko,
Again: with a multiple entry it is NOT an end of year visa. (multiple means unlimited} You can leave and return to Thailand up to 100 times, each time you will receive a stamp for 90 days.
(just checked with immigration :)
Leo
Hi leo
We came back to the Netherlands in March, and we are going back to Thailand in September.
My question is can we go back to Thailand on the old visa or do we have to apply for a new one
You wrote that a multiple entry can use unlimited what is the time that can be in between.
Gr Ab Woelinga
It depends on what kind of visa you have. with a non-immigrant O you must always extend this every 90 days. So if you follow the rules and have been out of the country for more than 90 days, it is no longer valid. An annual visa is a| I have to renew visa every 90 days.
With the emigration in Chiang Mai you can now make an appointment via the internet so you no longer have to go there early in the morning, works perfectly, you will immediately receive an e-mail back with a code as proof. Make an appointment a month or three in advance.
Can someone tell me what is the fastest way to go from Suvarnadhumi airport to the Dutch embassy in Bangkok and how much time does that take?
My girlfriend lives in Isaan and has to go to the embassy in Bangkok in a few days for a visa for her holiday in the Netherlands,
She wants to try to do that in one day. In the morning by plane from Udon Thani to Bangkok (arrival in Bangkok at 09.50) and in the afternoon back to Udon Thani (departure in Bangkok at 17.15).
However, she has no idea how much time it takes to get from the airport to the embassy and back.
Hence the question.
Thank you very much for any responses.
John, thank you very much for your response.
But just as an explanation:
– she has to go to the embassy to hand in the necessary papers and for the accompanying interview. And that should be done in one day.
– she already has all the necessary papers (in triplicate, 3 copies for the embassy and 2 copy for when she is checked at Schiphol). Hopefully I filled them in correctly.
– I understand that, if everything is ok, she will receive her passport (including visa) at home
– she won't arrive until August, so we still have a few weeks.
Dear John and Kevin,
thanks again for your responses.
But I understand that my question was not very clear.
We have all the papers for the visa application (application form, guarantee, pay slips from me, copy of ticket, copy of policy, etc.).
Next we need 275 b. pay and then my girlfriend can make an appointment with the embassy to hand in the papers and for the personal interview.
And if all goes well, they will get the passport with visa sent home.
The point is: do you manage to fly from Udon to Bangkok in one day, visit the embassy and then fly back from Bangkok to Udon.
It is not her intention that she wait for the visa (as far as that is possible, by the way), because it will be sent home.
It was only about how much time you have to allocate to go from the airport to the embassy and back and then to see whether that in combination with the arrival and departure time of the plane and the time of the appointment at the embassy, can be combined in one day.
And if the taxi ride is an hour there and an hour back, that should be possible.
It is possible. but then nothing can go wrong. No traffic jams, no delays, no crowds at the airport. Why not just book an airport hotel and add a night to it. less stress. You must include a self-addressed envelope (via the post office EMS department). I wouldn't take the gamble to do that in 1 day by plane.. For 950 bath you have a great hotel with breakfast and no stress. They will pick you up and take you to the airport and also arrange the taxi to the embassy. or you just need to hire a taxi for 1 day that will drive you up and down from Udon to Bangkok, I even think that's the cheapest solution and the fastest. Up very early and home late.
Ko thanks again.
We're out. It's about my girlfriend. She is coming to the Netherlands on holiday for 4 weeks in August and therefore now has to go to Bangkok for her visa. Because I thought 8 hours there and 8 hours back in the bus (Udon/BKK vv) was too much, I suggested that she go by plane.
But on the one hand it might be a gamble whether it will work in one day (as you yourself indicate), on the other hand my girlfriend also thought it was expensive (75/80 euros). We now have a deal, she gets money for the plane, goes on the bus and she can buy things for the difference.
Thank you for mentioning the return envelope.
I did run into another problem though. Before you can make an appointment at the embassy, you must first call 275 b. pay at the bank. The bank then informs the embassy (or rather VFS GLOBAL) that payment has been made, stating passport number and date of birth, among other things. Did the bank provide the wrong year of birth (1996 instead of 1966)? It was written correctly on the transfer form, but they had entered it incorrectly at the bank.
We'll see tomorrow how we can get that changed at VFS.
My problem with VFS GLOBAL has been solved. I received an email this morning confirming the appointment.
The bus is of course the cheapest. But also remember that it will drop you off at one of the central bus stations. Then maybe take a bus further into the city (or take the metro) or take a taxi back and forth to the bus station. Fortunately, the embassy is within walking distance of some major shopping centers, so it has that advantage. I always advise people to take a taxi, it is a bit more expensive, but : come and pick you up at home, drop you off in front of the embassy and also take you back home neatly, and you have the taxi to yourself. If you add up all the costs of bus, metro, taxi, you also lose a lot of money. To forget the stress (although Thais don't suffer from it that much). example: from Bangkok airport to Hua Hin (almost 300 km) a taxi asks 1800 baht. The minibus costs 180 baht (only with hand luggage, otherwise 180 baht). With luck there is one at the airport, otherwise with the skytrain to the center (150 baht). Then the tuktuk in Hua Hin to get home 150 baht. So if you go with 2 people, a taxi is almost the same price, but it is YOUR taxi. vwb the wrong date, just send an email to the embassy (address can be found on the internet. It's just a Dutch email address.)
My girlfriend's visa is in place.
It all went very smoothly:
– made an appointment on Monday
- received confirmation of the appointment on Tuesday
– Wednesday 09.20 (thai time) appointment at the embassy
– Friday morning an email that the visa was ok and that the passport has now been issued by
mail was returned.
The conversation at the embassy also went smoothly. My girlfriend only got one question, whether she was going on holiday to her “friend or boyfriend” (as an explanation: she also went on holiday in the Netherlands last year).
I had made 2 folders with all the necessary documents for her because I think the website states that you also had to hand in copies. She got one folder back completely, a number of pieces were taken from the other folder (I don't know which ones) and she also got the rest back.
Maybe she can make an appointment, then maybe it will work. The embassy counter closes at 11.30 am if you do not have an appointment. A few weeks ago I spoke to a few Thai people who had to go to the embassy every day for a week to get their turn. There were more than 100 people waiting before them and more than a hundred after them. I don't know whether that is the normal course of events, but it is very difficult for the person concerned. As a Dutchman you have priority, as a Thai you close at the back.