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It's that time of school holidays again and my memories go back to the weeks in the Netherlands, which we often filled with playing games like Monopoly, Pim Pam Pet, etc. We still do that in my family, despite our age.

What strikes me, now that children of my Thai cousin sometimes stay with us, that it is mainly watching TV and on the mobile, but that few games are played.
I just looked on the internet, but there are games available.

What is your experience with Thai children who live with you? How do they spend their time?

At least my wife doesn't let them hang on the bed to watch TV. You do that in the living room, and also help out a little at grandpa and grandma's house, hahaha.

But there is enough time left to play a nice game. They themselves came to me for tic-tac-toe, and teasing the card game. And I wanted to teach them 21, but my wife wouldn't let me, haha.

I am curious about your experiences?

Submitted by Rudolf

17 responses to “School holiday for Thai children (readers entry)”

  1. Roger_BKK says up

    I only have 1 cousin in the family and he has told me many times that he hates those long school holidays.

    He is bored to death and misses his friends at school. He hangs on the couch all day and taps on his phone out of boredom.

    The biggest problem is that there is no money to go on trips and I have never seen friends at his house. Just sad.

  2. Berry says up

    As a child in Limburg in the 70s, we were allowed to play outside all day long, go into the woods, drink from a stream when we were thirsty and when we were hungry we could find a piece of fruit or nuts. My parents saw us leave and knew that everything would be fine if we got back before dark.

    Or we took the bike and went on long trips or went fishing together.

    Occasionally there was a fight, but it was quickly resolved.

    Have you ever fallen off your bike or out of a tree, bruises are part of it.

    Occasionally a forbidden trip to the "dangerous" city of maastricht to look at the windows of a sex shop and what was so special about those coffee shops?.

    My Thai wife told me much the same story. That she got up in the middle of the night to help on the plantations and then went out with her friends on the moped.

    For her, there was no air conditioning at home, much too small and much too hot, therefore better to go to a public location with air conditioning. For her too, coming back before dark was ok.

    But times have changed in Europe and Thailand.

    Especially in Europe, parents are now afraid to let their children play outside alone. They see pedophiles, drug dealers and danger everywhere.

    Are the children allowed to go outside alone, do they have to take the phone with them to be reachable at all times, and some even install an app so that they also know the location.

    Do you have a fight with a friend as a child, a small fight, many parents are already ready with insurance and possibly lawyers for the injustice done to their child.

    The same story as before when I got hit by the teacher, I got an extra hit at home because I did something wrong.

    Now the parents go to the teacher and beat him up. Same with the parents of “boyfriends”. Before you know it, the parents are fighting among themselves.

    Here in Thailand, tell someone, I teach my young son/daughter to ride a motorcycle instead of a bicycle, you are accused of being bad parents because they are way too young. Have you gone completely crazy, letting a ten-year-old ride around on a moped in the plateaus?

    And then the solution is very easy for many parents, and children.

    Make sure that they are at home all day, preferably in their bedroom, so that there is no danger and no criticism from fellow human beings.

    And in modern times, bribe them with an Ipad or Iphone, and you won't see them again. If you want to see them, you have to turn off WiFi.

    Conclusion, I also see modern children everywhere “compulsory” to stay at home, without “living” friends or acquaintances, but are busy all day long in a virtual world.

    But it is also usually on the authority of the parents, we give them an Ipad to keep them indoors and safe and later we complain that the children listen too well and are constantly indoors with their Ipad.

  3. Rob says up

    In my opinion, Thai people generally have no idea how to spend their free time, they only know the TV and since the smartphone has become commonplace in Thailand, that is the most important thing.

    But that will also be because most of them work a lot of hours, my wife usually worked 12 hours a day 6 days a week and then she also had an hour and a half travel time each way, so there is indeed very little free time left.

    • berry says up

      Thais do have a very good idea of ​​how they spend their free time and usually it is even identical to a Belgian or Dutch person.

      And the children usually follow what the parents do.

      Take, for example, a Dutchman on Sunday when there is an F1 race.

      By the Max, it is now generally accepted that, on a Sunday off. you watch F1 on TV.

      In a manner of speaking, if you don't do it, you are not a good Dutch person. And if you haven't watched, you can't chat over coffee on Monday morning.

      But in total, on your Sunday off, you also stare at TV for almost 4 hours.

      – 1 Hour preview of the race

      – 2 hours race

      – 1 hour review.

      For an older Belgian you can replace F1 with cyclocross or cycling.

      In cycling, Tour de France or Giro, with an integral ride report, some supporters lie in front of the TV all day in their spare time. (take 6 hours)

      And if there is no F1 or cycling, there will always be a football match or tournament somewhere on the Eurosports/Viaplays of the world. (For my Belgian friends, lately darts is being promoted a lot)

      If you look at it that way, not much difference with a Thai who is following a Thai series somewhere.

      For the Thai and Europeans, if the parents decide to lie in front of the TV all day and don't take a trip, the children don't have much choice anymore, they are also obliged to stay at home.

      And to make staying at home a bit more pleasant, give them an iPad.

      For those in Thailand who are more active on weekends, the beaches in Chanthaburi and Rayong are packed with Thai families from Bangkok.

      The (Thai) BBQ is brought out with a few bottles of beer.

      If the parents have an active life, the children are automatically sucked into this active life.

      Swimming in the sea, banana boat, running on the beach, automatically you have more children playing outside.

      But here too, society has changed.

      As a Thai or European parent, even more European and crazy about the USA, you have to see dangers everywhere and raise your children Green, WOKE and LGBTQ2.

      And before you know it, a picture of you is on Facebook discussing your “outrageous” behavior.

      In modern times:

      Going to do “men” sports/activities with your son, outrageous, you push him into a male role model, maybe he wants to be your daughter.

      Doing a (sports) competition together with your children, scandalous if someone can win or lose. Children can't lose or win anymore, they can't handle that, it will destroy their lives.

      Driving by car to the sea or to the Efteling or an attraction park, scandalous, think of the environment. For the Belgians, how can children hold a protest march against the car on a Friday afternoon during school hours and then go out by car on Saturday?

      Go fishing together, you teach your kids to be animal abusers.

      BBQ on the beach with beer, scandalous, you eat meat and drink alcohol in the presence of children, that is not possible. It would be completely crazy if a cigarette is also lit.

      For many, the easiest solution is to relax in the safe environment of the house, children in the bedroom, parents in front of the TV, and no outsiders who give their "sincere" opinion. And do you want to smoke a cigarette with your glass of beer / wine, no one who comes to give his opinion about it.

      • Robert_Rayong says up

        Many Thai parents don't have a nail to scratch their ass with. Working 6 days a week, 7 hours a day. All their money is spent on paying off the many loans.

        Let it be just those parents who leave their children to fend for themselves during the long school holidays. I know many examples in my immediate environment.

        Do you really think that the families in question have the time and money for an amusement park visit, for a day at the sea or to organize an extensive BBQ every other night? No, maybe the richer Thai but the average families, forget it.

        For many children it is a party when school opens again. Those long annoying holidays are not good for anyone, only the teaching staff rub their hands.

        • janbeute says up

          And so it is Robert, the shiny new Ford Ranger 4-door pickup with all conceivable accessories, sport rims, etc., must be paid off someday.
          And the kids pay the price.

          Jan Beute.

      • Rob V says up

        Berry the families I know are in the lower class to better middle class in the Isaan. At home usually a bunch of toys, with those who are better off also some more games lying around. But the tablet and smartphone are of course also popular pastimes. Every now and then they go out to something with water (reservoir, waterslide paradise, etc.) or the zoo, but parents or children have also seen that after numerous visits and people can't / don't want to go every day off. What do you do on days off? There's not really anything else to do is the answer.

        Trips further afield? A weekend to another city or environment, that will still work for the parents who can afford it. But (if the money is already there) really on vacation, a week or more to the other side of the country, a country in the region or further away? Most parents work 5 or 6 days a week, and do not have an employer where you can take 1, 2 or 3 weeks off. So such trips are also ruled out.

        As long as Thailand does not have the rights (days off, wages, dismissal protection, etc.) as we acquired them after the end of WW2, it will therefore not surprise me that the children, with or without a bunch of toys at home, just hang around while the parents work work work.

        And speaking of “Modern upbringing”, the crazy helicopter parents aside, the message is: not every child can be pressured into a stereotype. Let girls do “boy things” and vice versa. Just sorting out their own interests, daughter who wants to fish with daddy? Fine. Son who prefers to play with glitter and may have a different sexuality later in life? Also okay. We have been learning about the environment for decades, nothing wrong with that. And the safe environment is often at home, some here come from the time when you could cross the highway with a blindfold... with today's traffic in Thailand and the Netherlands that is over. Letting a child of 6-7-8 kilometers with a classmate go out alone is therefore also quite tricky if you can be killed in so many places. Then playing outside quickly remains within the moobaan, and yes, with too many hours behind the screen while the parents work too many hours and have too little free time.

    • Maurice says up

      This is about the school-going youth and not about the working Thai. So totally unimportant.

      I live in a moobaan with a lot of Thai families. The parents all go to work, often until late at night. The children stay home alone, in some cases I see that the grandparents come to babysit.

      What are the children doing? I see them strolling around in the streets, the better off have a smartphone or a tablet on which they yawn all day long. Boredom trumps if you ask me.

      My neighbor has 2 children, 12 and 14 years old. I have a good relationship with them. During the school holidays, the children regularly come over. My wife tells me that she is overjoyed because it is a fun activity for them. They do want to go back to school.

      • berry says up

        But isn't this the hypocrisy of the farang?

        On various social media, including here on Thailand blog, you regularly get the question, I am European / American / Westerner, have / had a relationship with a Thai partner and we have a child or children.

        Due to circumstances I am back in the Netherlands/Belgium/…, how much money per month should I send for the (ex) partner and children?

        Also here on Thailand blog, you should read this question as, what is the minimum amount I have to send for the education of the children and intervention for the partner, so as not to be labeled as a miser.

        All excuses are good to keep that amount as low as possible.

        And then there are wonderful discussions, circular reasoning, how people cover each other with all possible reasons to donate the minimum. If person X only gives 10 THB per month, person Y will find it perfectly acceptable to give even 000k so that X also has an excuse because Y only gives 10k.

        State schools are suddenly acceptable and private health insurance for the children and (ex) partner is suddenly no longer necessary.

        Spending money on books and or comics, not sure of my euros.

        Do you want to follow an English-taught program in a (private) school? Let them get free education in the state school.

        Does the partner want to stay at home to take care of the children, outrageous, she can go to work!

        In my calculations you end up with at least 1 Euros per month for a good upbringing and care based on our Western lifestyle. (A good private hospitalization insurance for partner and offspring is already a major expense)

        And later we will respond that the Thais do not pay attention to their children and that there is no money for extracurricular activities or hobbies.

        • Maurice says up

          I don't understand at all what this has to do with my comment, but you go on and on. I think it's best to leave it at that and agree with you.

          What I wanted to make clear is what I see around me EVERY day. The (Thai) youth has no serious activities or interests. And the main reason is that a hobby often costs some money, money that is not there.

        • Erik says up

          Berry, it's great to hear that you can manage with 1.000 euros per minute. I never managed to do that with wife and son in a house without debt.

          What I do not agree with is that the Thai does not pay attention to his children. However, he does not have as much money as a Westerner in Thailand and that is why it seems that way. Money is there because they all haggle every free hour on a mobi and the 'mopeds' also seem to be free.

          That the farang all want to pay as little as possible is generalizing. You obviously have experience with a bunch of them, but my experience is completely different. And Maurice's too, I read. Compare the number of questioners in this area with the total input here and then only a handful remain.

          • Berry says up

            I mean that 1000 Euro support to your partner in Thailand is a minimum requirement if you want the partner to take care of your child.

            I took a quick look at Thailandblog and found this:

            https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/lezersvraag-mijn-partner-onderhouden-wat-is-redelijk-bedrag/

            This is a reader question from December 2019, fairly recent.

            The monthly amounts that a Dutch or Belgian person wishes to give, if the partner, possibly with child, remains alone in Thailand:

            – 8 040 THB for Peter,

            – 10 000 THB for Bob Jomtien

            – 11 000 THB for Ralp van Dijk (for 3 persons)

            – 12 THB for Geert

            – Johnny Bg indicates a minimum of 20 000

            – Pliet indicates 50 THB, but Cornelis and Ronny think that is “exaggerated”.

            The amounts listed, with the exception of Pliet and Jhonny BG, are extremely low to support a partner + additional persons.

            We should not be surprised then that the partner with support of this magnitude still has to go to work and that then not much time and money is available for the children's hobbies, such as reading and/or going out.

            If you are the only parent still obliged to work, it is logical that you cannot spend a lot of time with your children. But I think it's hypocritical to judge the ex-partner if you want to give a minimum amount of support yourself.

            My experience about those lesser amounts is based on reader questions and answers such as the attached example.

            I also know practical examples in Pattaya where the standard is 10 THB for Dutch people if their (ex) partner has 000 child. The farang will then have more money left over for the new girlfriend or his 1 AM beers.

        • Arie says up

          berry,

          I note that this is already your fourth response in this topic and I can't get rid of the impression that you want to be right.

          Maybe you should reread what others think. I don't like many of your generalizing comments, especially towards the Farang.

          I wonder to what extent you are really aware of what is going on with the Thai. And do you actually live here in Thailand? Judging by your comments, I have my doubts.

  4. Founding_Father says up

    Thai children from the less wealthy circles (read most of Thailand) generally receive little attention from parents, grandparents or aunts and uncles.

    The children go to school and free time is spent performing tasks imposed by one of the above (elderly).

    This prepares the child to take care of the family later on and development or creating its own personality is not important at all.

    That is why you see that many children here are very docile. They have been commanded to perform tasks for years and during the holidays they can go to the farm or do other tasks and chores at home.

    What the child thinks about this is not important at all.

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  6. Gerard says up

    What also strikes me is that Thai children rarely read. Not even before the telephone age. We used to go to the library during the holidays. Especially in bad weather

    • berry says up

      Here in my area it is very different.

      When the children were in primary school or early secondary school, a lot of Thai comics/comics Japanese style were read. And that was even in a classical context.

      The children also lent these comics to each other.

      The school even had/has an extensive library.

      From the end of primary school, at the beginning of secondary school, I also went to the library in Rayong city every Sunday with the children. Was a day trip. First to PTT day center for various family activities, then a bite to eat, and then a walk in the park for the parents and the children to the library. We did this together with different parents and children.

      At primary school, the children followed the English-language program, which means they have a very good knowledge of English. (in 2023, IELTS band 7.5)

      As a result, they now use their phone or tablet to read my collection of English Ebooks. I'm still the older generation, prefer a real book in my hands, but the kids here prefer ebooks. (Give my De Graaf van Monte Cristo to a 15 year old this week)

      The Ebooks are also exchanged among each other at secondary school. (is a bit illegal)

      What is the big difference between the Netherlands / Belgium or Thailand are the distances.

      As a child I could easily go to the library by bicycle.

      Here in Thailand you have to make it a day trip. For Rayong it was almost an hour's drive.

      And for many, both Farang and Thai, the men prefer to drink a beer rather than take the children to the library. In Pattaya, so to speak, at 10 in the morning the bars are full, but the library is empty.


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