Up to date with the news?

By Hans Bosch
Posted in Thailand in general
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November 26 2010

Living in a distant country sometimes results in alienation from one's own roots. That was even stronger a few decades ago. Those who emigrated did so for life, with perhaps a visit to the home country once or twice. That originally went by ship, later by plane. However, the trip between Asia and the Netherlands could also take a few days by DC3 or slightly later types.

Moreover, the emigrants had to save for a long time. Some relatives or acquaintances of my parents who left for America, Canada or Australia in the XNUMXs I have never or only rarely seen again.

How happy can we be with direct flights that take no more than twelve hours before we can set foot on native soil again (whether or not in the cold…). And usually also for a reasonable price, although we often complain about that. China Airlines, EVA Air (both Taiwanese) and KLM maintain a direct connection between Amsterdam and Bangkok. China Airlines and KLM daily, although the former does not always adhere to this.

Nowadays, the internet plays a clear leading role in maintaining contacts with the home front and following the news. We can e-mail, Skype or VoIP for little or nothing, while most news sites are (still?) accessible for free. We also often know the news earlier than at home, due to the time difference.

We don't need it directly from the Thai media. Not only can we hardly read them, if at all, they are also filled with a hefty portion of murder and manslaughter. BTs (Famous Thais) also figure prominently in it, with all their possessions and missteps.

In Bangkok and the surrounding area (and also in Chiang Mai) one of the two English-language daily newspapers, the Nation or the Bangkok Post, can be delivered every morning. Elsewhere in the country these newspapers come later or not at all. The newspapers differ little in the field of international news; they rely on the same news agencies. Both dailies appear seven days a week, often with attractive supplements on tourism, culture, sports or IT. Occasionally there are even articles about Cuba or Dutch football. One newspaper is more pro-government than the other, but the self-censorship of sensitive subjects is noticeable in both media. If you want to stay abreast of Thai news, you can rely on one of the two daily newspapers. Incidentally, it should be mentioned here that large facsimiles are also for sale in busy tourist resorts with reprints of Dutch newspapers of the same morning. However, they are not cheap.

We need it from the TV Thailand not to have. What a worthless mess and then also filled with advertising. The newsreels are worth watching as far as the pictures are concerned, but the advertisements are even on the sets. I won't talk about the soap operas; it's a kind of GTST (Good Thai, Bad Thai…), with a lot of murder and manslaughter. Pistols, knives and (drawing on) cigarettes are 'blocked'. Rapes and domestic violence are allowed. A reflection of the real state of affairs in Thailand?

Fortunately, CNN and BBC, as well as the necessary sports competitions, can be followed via UBC and the accompanying dish, in addition to the Thai networks and a few film channels. And even regularly the bloody ram and throw work in a cage fight. It is annoying that True Move, especially at football matches in the English Barclay league, pollutes the image with all kinds of nonsensical announcements and, of course, advertising. So that the lower part of the game is sometimes impossible to follow. Fortunately, the commentary is in English. That's a happy accident again. For that subscription to UBC I have to pay 1600+ THB monthly. I have to take for granted that I get the necessary repetitions for that price. But if friends, family or acquaintances bring some recent (opinion) weeklies with them when they come to Thailand, I am happy for the first few days afterwards.

16 Responses to “Informed about the news?”

  1. Bert Gringhuis says up

    Well, with a DC-3 it is a long time ago, but in the seventies I went to Bangkok with a KLM DC-8, which made at least 2, but usually 3 necessary stops.
    I was an avid newspaper reader, and for me a day had to start with at least half an hour of spelling the newspaper. When I went on a trip, the newspapers were kept so that I could read them after my return. Abroad you sometimes bought an English-language newspaper, either a local or the Herald Tribune. Of course looking for Dutch news, which was rarely, if not never, available.
    Back in the Netherlands you see the pile of newspapers, which are really completely full of news, a strike here, a riot there, a cabinet crisis, an important football match and so on.
    We often think that we make world news, but in reality all our Dutch news is no more than village news.
    Don't think I want to go back to that time, because it is now wonderful to be able to view every Dutch newspaper, national or regional, on the Internet in Thailand. A true delight!

    • Pim says up

      Hans.
      Since we no longer have direct Dutch football on ubc, that expensive subscription is over for me.
      Still, you're going to miss something like movies, no problem
      Inquire with acquaintances and you have the same channels for 5 x less money.

      • Hi Pim, I will write something about that soon. I still have your email 😉

      • erik says up

        please more information, we have true here but i would like something else with more choice in BKK (best a dish? but i think i am on the wrong side of the condo

  2. Harold says up

    If you want to follow the Thai news, TAN Network is recommended. The latest news in fluent English. Offered by most cable companies.

  3. huibthai says up

    In '81 I visited Bangkok, Pattaya and Changmai for the first time, the journey took 17 hours, a first stop in Rome, then in Barein [in 84 I brought herring for Theo Lazeroms, who was a trainer there] In Bangkok I had to arrive early. , but in the coffee shop of Hotel Grace, the party started right there. We then stayed 2 [wild] nights in Bangkok. You took newspapers with you and of course the Panorama and the Revue. Since I was a ship's cook in the early 70s, I didn't miss the fresh Dutch newspaper news that much, because I worked in the div. ports also always bought older Telegraafs. TV also didn't really interest me, also because of evening/night work in the Roosendaal catering industry.

    But since I've been living here since 2005, a lot has changed. I proudly told friends in Holland, When I read the Telegraaf in the morning at 9 o'clock, you are still in a deep sleep.
    BVN is also a huge improvement, especially after the adjustment in the late hours. I usually go for a beer from 16 to 19 pm with the many Dutch people here in the Nongprue region. Then I eat something and around 20 pm my Thai wife goes to the bedroom TV and I watch BVN until midnight, my opinion is, good programs those hours. News is welles true a bit older. But if something happens somewhere, you watch the BBC, for example
    Since I am also a football fan and happen to have Banglamung TV, I watch a lot of Dutch matches live. If not on the PC, many matches can also be followed directly [sometimes with some buffer]. I sometimes watch in the morning if I plan to spend the evening elsewhere.
    A lot of Dutch people come here in Pattaya and through the Pattaya Notice Board, I have gotten to know many of them over the years. These again bring magazines and also, for example, the 2 weekly free edition of "the old Rotterdammer", a great newspaper with, among other things, old memories, photos, submitted articles {also available on the internet, the entire newspaper is then downloaded. So everything is actually like this, staying here without children or grandchildren [which you often hear] is very doable. If you want to see or hear your grandchild, turn on your PC in consultation with your home country.

    I didn't really know/interested me in the planes I flew at the time, as long as I was away. Also my first flight in 1968 from Salzburg to Amsterdam was something with DC, but whether it was 7,8 or 9, I really don't know

    • peterphuket says up

      Unfortunately, I have never been able to read the Telegraaf at 9 o'clock in Thailand, at 10 o'clock in the summer is possible, and now with winter time at 11 o'clock at the earliest, in addition, the editors of the Telegraaf on Saturday apparently is allowed to sleep in, ie then it is not possible to read the Telegraaf on the internet before 12 o'clock in the afternoon. Of course I'm talking about the paid version, and not about it http://www.telegraaf.nl, I often have the impression that the De Telegraaf server is overloaded, because you have to wait minutes before a message arrives, or sometimes not at all. Now things have improved somewhat, but previously editorials and articles were sometimes halved. But I admit I keep abreast of what is happening in NL, and that is also worth something, although…..

      • Huibthai says up

        I am talking about the period 202/2005, I cannot confirm this in an hour, Die murdere Oldekerke was still alive, on the beach of Jomtien, near Hoek van Holland, the newspaper [limited coverage] was already around 10/11 am offered by the beach vendors, I thought 175 baht at the time, if the newspaper remained tidy, you could sell it to the same newspaper vendor for 100 baht

  4. Leo Bosch says up

    Hi Hub,

    Like you, I live in Nongprue and am on Banglamung-TV cable, which also allows me to watch BVN daily.
    I wouldn't like to miss it because what Thailand has to offer on TV is indeed shit.

    Now we (my Thai wife and I) are planning to live in Isaan (Kalasin) next year where there is no cable TV available,
    Can you or someone tell me if it is possible there (buy a satellite dish yourself) to receive European channels)?

    Also, I would like to know what you mean by Pattaya Message Board. I hadn't heard of it yet.

    Regards, Leo

    • huibthai says up

      Leo, that's the http://www.pattaya.startpagina.nl , go to the link on the notice board, on the right you will also see links to the home pages of Bangkok, Isaan etc., you have to log in to join the discussion [but reading alone is also allowed of course] But what do you want in Kalasin??? What Pattaya and also the other side Sukumvit, i.e. Nongprue, has to offer, you will never find again. A friend of mine has a house there, after 3 days there, he wants to leave!!! I -my wife- also has Thai houses there and would also like to go back, but I never. !!!I live here on the soi Kaonoi in a Chockchai park, at the end of a street, I have now been out of bed for 3 hours, the only one who came by was the man who came to record the electrical time . I want to do something, 1 minute away, a large free swimming pool, 3 minutes away a Thai market, 4 minutes various. supermarkets and bars/eateries, 5 minutes away a clinic and post office and all the shops you need to live well. 15 min. the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, cinema, the beach etc. etc. Furthermore, an excellent internet connection, many Dutch friends, also English and Germans. If I want to do what my wife wants, I'll languish there in the province. They are looking for a house there to be with the family and will eat even more, you are their financier, etc. Thousands of bad incidents are known here. Of course I have nothing to do with it, but I really didn't see me and since my wife has to live on my money + contribution to her mother, she will definitely stay with me, you don't have to be afraid of that [OK, let's argue] Greetings Huib

  5. Pim says up

    Leo Bosch.
    In Hua hin I have 1 dish with many channels, I only look at 1 and that is BVN, I see Discovery is also on it.
    For 4000.- Thb I was the merchant.

  6. Leo Bosch says up

    Hello Pim,
    Thanks for the info.
    Then it should also work in the Isaan, I think, with a good dish.

    Gr. leo

  7. Leonard says up

    Just bought a PSI satellite dish (1,5M diameter) this week for 3000 baht incl. installation. I bought a 2nd receiver for 2nd TV, costs about 2000 baht. incl. connection.
    BVN can be received razor sharp on this, perfect image!
    I live in Bangsaen,Chonburi

  8. Leo Bosch says up

    Hi Hub,

    Thank you for your info on Pattaya Message Board,
    An interesting site with lots of information.

    Thank you also for your undoubtedly well-meaning advice to keep living in Nongprue, but I have my own ideas about this.

    I know, Pattaya has a lot to offer for a Farang, and I have also been living here just outside Nongprue for 7 years now, very rural among the banana trees, mango trees and coconut palms in a beautiful bungalow on 500 square meters. meters of land, so a beautiful garden. And less than 15 minutes by car from the beach.
    And I can also appreciate all the facilities you mentioned, so in that respect I like it here.

    But what about the crazy traffic in Pattaya.? .The Thais are like Kamikaze pilots.
    And parking is a crime here.
    And crime? Just look at Banglamung TV.
    There has already been an attempted burglary in my house, but luckily I have a burglar alarm.
    My wife has already had a gold chain stolen from her neck twice. Our eldest daughter was kicked off her motorbike while driving to steal her purse. and not even in Pattaya, no, right here near home in Nongprue. I already have 2 fears if our grandson (now only 1000 years old) will soon have to grow up here.

    No, I've seen it here in Pattaya.
    The first few years I still enjoyed it here and was able to enjoy what Pattaya had to offer, but lately all that is no longer necessary for me.
    It may also have something to do with my age. I am now 76 and my wife 43.

    And moreover, I have no negative experiences with her family or with our stay in the Isaan.
    We visit on average about 3 times a year for a week, 10 days
    Although she no longer has any parents, only a few married sisters and we always stay with the eldest.
    We usually bring some presents for the family, and I always give a reasonable allowance for lodging and everyone is always grateful.
    I have never noticed that they are after my money, and I always have a good time there. I also didn't notice any of the stories about Thais in Isaan drinking like tinkers in her family, my brothers-in-law hardly drink and the only one who drinks a drink and a beer when we are there is me.

    No, if I have a nice house there, my computer, TV, my books and my drinks and beer, I can grow old there just fine.
    In Kalasin (10 km drive) there is an Austrian restaurant (with a schnitzel that hangs over the edge of your plate) and is a meeting point for the farangs from the area.
    And we are an hour's drive from Khon Kaen and everything is available there.
    We have already bought a nice piece of land, just on the edge of the village, and I hope to start building next year.
    Just to lose my house here.

    Sorry Huib, but you can't persuade me to stay here (joke).

    Regards, Leo

    • huibthai says up

      Leo, that was not the intention, I read your age and your justified comments about traffic and crime. What I stung is my opinion and fortunately not everyone is the same. The family story is also different for many, but I base it on my experience and that of many who have returned here to the Pattaya area. I am 61 and still want to enjoy a "richer" life. I myself had a restaurant in the BoosBoos in the Netherlands. When it was quiet or bad weather, I called on people to come and have a cup of coffee!! Greetings Huib

  9. Leo Bosch says up

    Hello Leonard,

    Thanks for the information.
    I understand that you also have to purchase an extra receiver for every extra TV connection.
    I hadn't realized that, thanks for the tip.

    Regards, Leo


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