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Houses for sale in Thailand
Posted in Thailand in general, Real estate law; and
Tags: Condominium, Huizen, Dutch people
Thailand is a beautiful country. Every year many Dutch people visit this special Asian destination. Usually for one holiday, but Thailand is also becoming more and more popular to spend the winter.
About 9.000 Dutch people have settled permanently in Thailand. These expats and retirees enjoy all the good things Thailand has to offer. If you also have plans like this and you are looking for a luxury villa, condo or apartment, you will find a select range of houses for sale in Thailand that have a Dutch owner on Thailandblog. That is nice and usually a lot more reliable.
Houses for sale in Thailand
This new page on Thailandblog.nl lists a limited number of houses. These homes are for sale and sometimes also for rent. This without the intervention of a (Thai) broker, which in turn has a favorable effect on the purchase or rental price.
Would you like to take a look at the page? Then click on this link: Houses in Thailand
Are you interested and would you like to know more or view a house? Then send an email to: [email protected] We will then put you in touch with the owner.
I only see 2 houses for sale,
that beautiful villa in Jomtien
and the condo in Hua Hin. It seems to have a large swimming pool but a photo of it was not possible because it was so large?
@ haha, yes the pool does not fit on the screen of your PC. I will ask for some more pictures.
164000 euros and barely 2 bedrooms with a living room??? in Belgium you can buy apartments for 150.000 euros new construction and 110 square meters.
know someone who bought an apartment in pattaya condo for 45000 euros, a gem
I do rent, much more convenient.
besides, as a farang you can never really own property there, I thought?
@ That is not correct. A farang can indeed own property.
I had a question mark too :)
But what I often heard is that it had to be in the name of the woman because of the ground or something?
I have often heard of those horror stories about farang being stripped naked because it had to be in the name of the woman, who then later broke off the relationship and ran off with it.
Wasn't there myself, but hear something like that quite often.
However, I have it third hand……….
A farang can own a house, but not the land on which it stands. The option of a company is virtually impossible these days. Plus, your max only owns 49 percent of the company. Leasing for 30 years is an option, but after that period you have to wait and see whether you can extend for another 30 years. Of course, a Thai girlfriend or wife can own the land and lease it to the farang, but when it comes to a lawsuit, the question is which way the baht falls.
Usufruct is the best option. This means: usufruct as long as the people who have signed for it live. Then you can also have your children and adult grandchildren sign along. You can have a condo or apartment in your name and ownership, as long as 51 percent of the total floor area of the building is in Thai hands. Conclusion: acquiring property in Thailand is a minefield. A good lawyer as a guide is indispensable.
Interesting that cut wood, thanks……
Then of course you also have to deal with those stricter requirements for the extension of the visa.
I often come across them in the surrounding neighboring countries, which also seems to be a lot more difficult.
Sometimes very old people who then have to undertake a long journey…
I don't understand that problem. The requirements for a retirement visa are known and certainly not too onerous. You can arrange the statement of income (if you so choose) by post with HM's embassy and with that you can obtain a visa in the immediate vicinity.
Well, for example, I met a very old boss at mae sai (all the way in the north), who was well into his eighties, who had to cross the border there, and then extend it again
In Georgetown (Malaysia) I came across them for the same reason
Savannakett (laos) same story
I also had the idea of many younger Farang who have their own shop somewhere
I always just take a 30-day visa, but I always travel around, so I cross quite a few borders, but when I return you only have 15 days left, which used to be longer in my opinion.
I don't live there, of course, but I had the idea that those people always after six months? had to cross the border.
I'd be interested to hear how this works exactly...
Good advice in this case is not expensive, but it does take a lot of time. Advice: if you are over 50 years old, enter with a Non-Immigrant-O and convert it to a retirement visa. You never have to leave the country again, but you do report to Imm every 3 months and renew once a year based on income. Read everything on: http://bangkok.immigration.go.th. You can also only enter with a Non-Imm-O, but then you have to leave the country (briefly) every 3 months. And after a year, apply for that visa again elsewhere for approximately 130 euros.
Thanks, that clears this up,,, I always wondered how that worked.
This has recently become obsolete, according to an email sent by the embassy (not to me). I have asked the embassy to explain the correct procedure. I will come back to that in a post. There is currently nothing about this on the website of the embassy.
I don't think so. The house that stands on land belongs to the land and therefore cannot be owned by a foreigner. DO have a condo or apartment on the first floor above.
The construction with a Ltd has also been shaky lately, perhaps Ying Luck will change that. Nowadays you have to prove that you actually use the house for the company. I don't know about Ltd who focus on the housing market.
Someone maybe?
As I wrote, you can own a house, but not the land. I don't understand why a condo has to be on the first floor or higher if you want to get it in a foreign name. According to the office of the building where I once owned a condo, it doesn't matter.
Since when are Dutch people more reliable when it comes to money?
I don't think Dutch people in general, but Dutch people on thaiblog.nl are meant LOL
It doesn't get any better yet!
Dear prospective buyers, it's not buying but selling that fails. There is no Thai who is able to buy your house from you in the future. You are stuck with it. And foreigners who want to buy a house in Thailand do not stand in line.
The information about being able to buy land in Thailand, on the Thailand blog, is very insufficient. Setting up a company is like a Dutch pension, for example. A lot of paperwork and if you want to undo that because you want it in the name of your wife/husband, you have to pay transfer costs again.
If Thailandblog wants to lend itself to this, it must be aware of the risks it accepts. Advertisements and advertisements are more the way to go. I think that the AFM Financial Services Authority would not be happy with this.
There is no real estate agent who appraises your house. They are not aware of valuation reports and the determination is done off the cuff.
Maybe Hua Hin and Pattaya are a bit better in the market, but the rest of Thailand I would be very careful. A house of 4.000.000 baht is priceless. (100.000 euros)
Honesty compels me to write this.
Some 20 km outside Chiang Mai, the houses are for sale, but the buyers complain that they are too far from the civilized world and want to move closer. Then one wakes up.
@ Dear Henk, there are advertisements for owner-occupied and rental houses in every newspaper. The AFM will be busy then. The AFM is about financial services, the moment we start selling mortgages here, then your story will be heard. The nice (but also tiring) thing about this blog is that all expats know everything about everything, but also know everything better. Unfortunately, I have not yet come across two expats who agree with each other. In short, they have all heard the bell ring, but no one seems to know where the clapper hangs.
Dear khun peter
I have lived here for 16 years and have worked most of this time as a project mamager in houses construction hotels and condos
Perhaps if there are any questions about how it really works regarding homes, I can give some good answers from my long practical experience
Regards Ton
ton,
Apparently I took over your job and I have 50 houses plus the land for sale. Do you have any idea how to legally sell these to farang?
Incidentally, I would like to mention that new homes between 1,5 mil and 2,5 mil are sold well to Thai, because it can be financed. At 3 mil or higher you should already have the better track.
Good response.
I know a German in Chiang Mai who built a beautiful house…..
Everything was ready when my dear wife got the hang of it and ran off with another (a Dutchman) and of course put the knife to his throat to sell everything. Because everything was in her name. But selling something in Chiang Mai is not easy. In the middle of nowhere? Who wants to live there and that good man had burned all his ships in Europe. Part of his money was in that beautiful house. A whopper of a building, with land and an indoor swimming pool. Simply unsaleable. I don't know how it ended. The last time I spoke to him is now a year ago when the misery hit and he was walking around somewhat dazed as if he had been hit with a sledgehammer.
That's exactly the point. And the lack of that information is precisely the reason. Because the clapper is missing. I totally agree. Tailor sticks to your last. 😉
Small correction Henk, it is "shoemaker stick to your last". But I can live with your comment.
The tailor, amazed, searched for the needle in the haystack.
My advice, put your proof of ownership well away, so that your house cannot be sold behind your back. If necessary, send it to the Netherlands.
That's good advice and before you buy anything in your girlfriend's name, find out what title document your title deed has. Especially in the Isaan
many lands are not registered and cadastrally recorded.
Best if it's a chanotte Ti Din then it's undisputed property, The Nor Sor Sam and Nor Sam Kor titles are slightly less, but tradeable.
Other titles are worth less than toilet paper, and many lands are untitled.
usufruct and they can't sell without your signature.
A number of comments from HenkW hit the mark.
Why wouldn't a Thai be able to buy my house (4,5 million Baht) in the future?
Is he under the impression that only very poor Thais exist?
Last year my Dutch neighbor bought her house for 3,5 million. Baht sold to a Thai family.
Why is 4 million. Baht unaffordable?
Prices between 2 and 4 million. Baht are quite common here (in Pattaya and surroundings).
Why your proof of ownership to NL. steer, is it safer there than in Thailand?
The remark that your house will otherwise be sold behind your back (by whom?, by your partner?) suggests the unreliability of the Thai woman.
Another prejudice. Why not.
No one can see into the future. But among the current Thai population, there are not so many who can buy it. I think he assumes it will stay that way. And to be honest, I don't see it changing any time soon.
How much to buy thai in pattaya houses of that price range?
I live and work in Thailand for 9 years and am active in the real estate market in Pattaya. The prices paid today are almost equal to the prices paid in Belgium. It is wrong to think that Thais have no money. According to a study conducted for the Asean Market, 10% of Thais can afford a home around 3 million TB. The Market in Pattaya is run by various groups, including the majority from Asia, Russia, Europe and America. We have also seen a lot of Australians lately. Bangkokians are by far the largest group of buyers. the market is between 1 and 600 million TB for a home. Condos range from 400TB to 000M. Thailand is not cheap as most people think. The construction of 350 star condominiums has doubled in recent years and prices are paid between 5 and 30000 per square meter. In Bangkok, a Canadian paid more than 275000 Tb per square meter for the Penthouse in the Sukothai residence and it has a surface area of more than 430 square meters, you can calculate the total price yourself. Belgians and Dutch people are very big buyers in the Pattaya market and I dare say they are upper class buyers. As for property rights. One can buy condos in one's own name, houses too, but one can never own the land, the land can be leased for 000 years. There are currently some proposals on the table to allow leasing for 900 years, but only in limited zones.
@Louix,
Unbelievable what people pay for a square meter of poverty in Pattaya. More money than brains, I think. These amounts exceed the market in, for example, Mexico and Costa Rica, countries where the foreign buyer also owns the land and where 'home' is only a 3-hour flight from the average American or Canadian. The lease story means that your children or grandchildren have no inheritance rights whatsoever. So anyone who falls for it is lost. Come up with a sales story that changes my opinion, dear Louix.
Dear Leo,
It was not my intention to offend or prejudice anyone. Unfortunately, the things I quoted are based on experience. Not from me, but from people around me. And I agree that the stability / value retention of the housing market in Hua Hin and Pattaya will be better than elsewhere in the country. My only concern is to warn people. After all, that person counts for 2.
When the Canadian man returned to Thailand and found other people in his home, he was very surprised. And even more surprised when it turned out that his wife was living with an American in America with his money. There go your savings, and I found that very annoying for the person in question. It would have been less risky if he had kept the ownership papers with him.
And then I'm not even talking about the capital loss when selling due to the too high asking prices. No appraiser who writes an honest report.
If that Thai realizes that the foreigner is in a hurry to sell his property in TH, I think renting/leasing was ultimately a better option.
And this topic with only 2 offers is very scanty.
Try juggling houses and apartments in TH, you will be amazed by the range.
Hans,
The chanotte Ti Din is, according to my information, not only the best, but the only title deed that has value and is negotiable.
Nor Sor Sam and Nor Sam Kor are title deeds issued to Thai farmers for land they have on loan from the government (or province).
They can be transferred to another name, but are not tradable, so for us Farangs they are completely worthless.
And I don't think there are any other titles.
The Nor Sor Sam and Nor Sam Kor, are legal certificates, and indicate the right to own the land, it is salable, registerable, and the ability to obtain building permission.
Other titles
The Sor Bor Kor. not tradable, only by inheriting it
Sor Kor Nun and Tor Bor Tor Hoc, not buildable and tradable.
Tor Bor Tor Ha, no right.
the chanotte Ti Din is the best, but large parts of Thailand don't have it
Hans, I do not want to compete, my information is not first hand, may be incomplete or incorrect.
The house I bought here in Pattaya came with a chanotte Ti Din, as did the land I bought in Isaan last year.
Chanotte Ti Din or a Prakaat Ti Din is only registered to a Thai so what good is that? Nothing at all. If your relationship is screwed up, they can simply kick you off your “land” or ti din. The only correct option is what Hans Bos writes.
There are also guys who try to sell you land that you can't do anything with, but they make off with the loot.
Option Hans is indeed the best, and according to my knowledge you can also have that construction recorded by having a lawyer included for another 2 periods of 30 years, and a clause that in the event of a change in Thai law whereby the farang can buy land , this purchase is automatically in his name.
As Hans said, a minefield and a good lawyer is required..
I think the prices of the 2 properties offered are really ridiculously high.
more than €400.000 for a house and more than €160.000 for a flat.or renting for more than €1.000
These are not Thailand prices, but more for Marbella, Spain.
I prefer to rent a beautiful Villa for approx. 15.000 Bath in Hua-Hin.
Sat offer.
Hi Rick Do you have a website of a reliable broker there? thank you in advance. Greetings Joo
Dear Joe.
Unfortunately I don't have a broker's website for you with these prices.
Asking prices through a broker are usually too high.
It goes through Thai friends,
I now have a terraced house for 4.000 Bath per month (unfurnished).
Next year I will create a website with cheap rental properties.
If you are looking for a nice villa in Hua-Hin for little money, then you should contact
Hans Bos, he might know something.
Dear Thailand visitor,
The Chanotte Ti Din is indeed in my wife's name.
But don't worry, everything is fine with a notary for 20 years.
I hope that the range of houses on that new page will grow quickly because with 2 houses the choice is very limited.
If anyone has something for sale or rent in the Krabi region or on Koh Lanta, I'd love to hear about it!
Dear Mike
Check out this Thai Visa website
http://classifieds.thaivisa.com/real-estate/
Good luck
Thanks a lot Rick, that's more like it!
@ Miek37 there will certainly be more houses. It is not our ambition to turn it into a Thai home website. There are only houses with a Dutch or Flemish owner. That is a conscious choice.
Around Chiang Mai there are (very many) houses for rent from 5000 Bath to 10000 Bath per month
Plenty of choice. A friend of mine lives in a rental house at 7000 Bath and it is wonderfully quiet there. Another friend of mine lives in an owner-occupied house. And next to his house, sorry his wife's house, is now a karaoke. In the living room you sometimes cannot hear each other because of the karaoke music. Even karaoke without a permit cannot be removed.
And of course here on this blog again there are people with great ideas, no, they will call it facts how to solve this.
By the way, there is little point in storing the schanot properly. If an owner loses her treasure, she can request a new one, right?
It sometimes seems as if the people who bought a house, gave it away, have tried very hard to advise others to also buy a house, give it away. then they don't look like that themselves....
Most local ladies are not that reliable??? Except for the lady of the man I'm talking to. That lady is always just a little bit different.
It is sad to read that people accuse others of prejudice here. I thought that we are only supposed to talk politically correctly in the Netherlands, but that we can give our opinion on this blog.
Great response namesake 5 star rating
Dear Peter,
There is nothing wrong with giving your opinion.
But to be able to demonstrate by thinking with some bad examples that all Farangs who buy a house in their wife's name...(stupid?) and their wives are unreliable is a different story.
Now that is what is called “biased”. are.
And your story about the rental house where it is so quiet, and the owner-occupied house next to which a karaoke bar was established, are you implying that if you rent, you are always guaranteed to live quietly, but if you buy you are always noisy?
I don't know, but I sometimes get the feeling that the reason why some people are so negative about buying a house may be for an unspecified reason.
Could that be the lack of the means to buy a house?
Been living in Thailand for 8 years in March first in Sriracha now for years in Pattaya.
Look for a rental house in Pattaya (preferably corner house) not in a village or houses that are linked to each other. Unfurnished !!!!!!!!
House I now rent in Pattaya was fine until a few weeks ago my Thai neighbor is making a Thai restaurant right next to my bedroom.
So now looking for another rental house, have 3 dogs so garden must have high enough fencing or wall to keep them in.
And important owners must love dogs so my dogs are not a problem.
Preferred towards Pattaya Tai or towards Yomthien. ( Beach is not important to me ) so may be a soi further from beach.
Long term rent as I hope to continue living in Pattaya 12.000 baht per month.
Have enough of your own stuff to fill the house, just don't have a double bed.
Would love to hear if anyone has anything to rent, not a second floor as have Epilepsy.
Robert.
Pattaya