In the Netherlands and Belgium there are quite a few middle-aged single men (between 40 and 60 years old) who are looking for a nice woman. I have excellent advice for them: go to Thailand!
Anyone who goes out regularly in the Netherlands will have noticed it. Getting in touch with a nice lady is not easy. An alternative such as a dating site is also impossible. Thousands of hunters on dozens of prey.
How different it is in Thailand. In Thailand you are interesting to many women, after all you are a foreigner. Another additional advantage, it doesn't matter much what you look like: young or old, short or tall, handsome or ugly, fat or thin, bald or a bunch of hair, it doesn't really matter to many Thai women.
What most Thai women find important is that you take good care of yourself and dress neatly. In addition, you must be a reliable partner, not a butterfly, drinking organ or liar. And certainly not unimportant: being willing to take care of her in good times and bad.
Thai women really enjoy flirting and a friendly smile is always answered with a beautiful smile. In addition, Thai people really enjoy connecting seekers with each other.
It strikes me again and again that even men who are not really looking, fall head over heels in love with a Thai beauty when they visit Thailand. And again, that is much easier in Thailand than in the Netherlands or Belgium.
But maybe you have different experiences? Let us know whether or not you agree with the statement, "Thailand is a paradise for single men."
PFF a very spicy statement you put here!! With all the various experiences, this will also yield a lot of ongoing answers, I won't burn my fingers haha!!
Very wise Bart. Thailand may be a paradise for single men, but yes, as soon as these men have succumbed to a Thai beauty, they are no longer single and then hell begins for many (not everyone).
you mainly mention what they don't pay attention to and that's right. But you forget to mention that almost all women who have their eye on a farang are after the money that a farang owns. Their lives change from hard work for 7 euros a day 7 days a week and 10 hours a day to a life with a farang in luxury and opulence without having to work. In one fell swoop their lives change from the absolute minimum to a luxury and quality at the top. Usually, a farang with a pension has 5 to 10 times as much to spend as the Thai minimum and immediately they are rid of the constantly cheating Thai men! There are too many women in Thailand who want to earn a small amount of money by selling sex. Many Thais and men and farang make use of it and it is therefore a different society than in the Western world where the women are always independent and earn their own money and are in the same financial position as the men. So in Thailand, a young woman buys luxury and opulence by donating her body. With good luck you will find love and in most cases life is a play. Many men of retirement age enjoy it and take the stage for granted. Doesn't really say anything about whether they like it or not. As long as they manage to keep the financial rein (and therefore power) then there is nothing to worry about. When people start to invest in things that do not remain 100% owned, things go wrong. The urge for the Thais is too great to look for ways to grab the farang's capital early and thus create power. Especially since people were initially looking for money and not love, over time the urge to acquire power becomes very strong if the relationship does not turn out as they expected. Often even after many years together, the monkey comes out of the sleeve!
greetings from someone who speaks farang daily because I work in the hospitality industry and get to hear all the stories….
Skippy, I'm not impressed by all those 'Thailand experts' with their horror stories. The stories about failures are in great demand because someone else's misery is apparently more fun than success and happiness. I know a lot of Dutch and Belgians who lead a happy life with their Thai partner. But as said, that is not interesting for the general public.
And as my mother always said: Everyone gets what they deserve.
It has probably been omitted to mention that these are Dutch and Belgians who do not live in Thailand. Indeed, they are relatively happier with a Thai partner.
The statement “Thailand is a paradise for single men” is true.
But I would add that the trick is to remain single. Until you are “Thailand expert” enough to form a well-founded opinion about it.
This opinion is often linked to the region, country, age, culture, level of education, living situation, life experiences, gender, appearance, character and intelligence of the single man.
It is also important to keep thinking with your “brain”.
I totally agree with Khun Peter. A lot is written about the misery caused by people who go completely wrong. When I'm in Thailand plus minus 4x a year I also see things like this in Hua hin where we have a house. There are always people who think what is not possible here in the Netherlands is possible in Thailand. When you go to a bar you know that the chance that someone you like will come to you for a long time is 50%. All the stories about power money for the family and things like that are in your own hands.
I've been happy with my Thai for 9 years now and wouldn't want anything else. And I think there are enough Dutch people who also live happily together, both here and in Thailand.
But also in Dutch relationships things often go wrong (unfortunately)
One thing remains when you are in a relationship with a Thai, UNDERSTANDING this is not always easy for a Thai. There is and always will be a big difference with the Asian and Western world.
Leon
Very short and concise
Dear Peter, My account is certainly not meant to be negative! However, the statement Paradise indicates to me that nothing can go wrong. My above account is 100% correct and not a horror story but just reality. It's not about what people 'like' if you want to have a meaningful discussion, is it? I also know a lot of happy Dutch, Belgians and other expats (including myself) who live in Thailand. As I already formulated, it does not matter if there is a financial background among the Thai ladies that does not have to negatively influence the happiness of the man at all. My mother always said a good hobby can cost a bit! So my vision is still that there are very good opportunities for men who will live here, but that it is necessary to get to know the culture, to hedge against financial catastrophes and to continue to use your brain more than in Western society! What has not yet been mentioned is that if you live in your own culture you are automatically protected against missteps but if you go as a loner to a new culture that you do not know then you become an entrepreneur and as we all know many people are not suitable as entrepreneur and due to their ignorance of entrepreneurship live under high stress and countless go bankrupt. So Thailand can become a paradise for any man who has a need or a reason if all the necessary puzzle pieces fit together and if all the homework is done properly and the mind remains more powerful than the pleasure.
”Position of the week: 'Thailand is a paradise for single men''
To this question I say a resounding "YES". But mind you…….No money No honey.
Incidentally, you should also have that in the Netherlands ((Money)).
If you are unemployed and you ride an old bicycle where the bell does not even work, then no one is looking at you.
Isn't it wonderful when an old pensioner of 65 denounces a younger woman 20 years younger. Because that life he had in NL with a woman who often had a headache when he wanted to make love, and was always complaining you drink too much. he experiences a lot differently now. And the most important thing that happens to this man in Thailand is that he has people around him who respect him as he is.
And you really don't have to be a Thailand expert to determine that a Thai woman, provided you treat her well and with great respect, is better in all kinds of areas than the average Dutch woman. And then you have to realize that she cannot handle money well and that you don't always understand her but take it with a grain of salt.. After more than 6 years of Thailand I like it here very much I consider it my 2nd homeland where I first came to Bangkok in 1957 as a young sailor. make something of it, enjoy life as long as you live, because sometimes it only takes a while, and you are always dead longer than you have lived.
And then I just read that in Japan a woman of 113 years old is getting married to a man who is 70 years old, so more than 40 years difference does not matter as long as they are happy. walked through the city with a 65 year old, he is as proud as a peacock and then you read here that many bloggers don't like that. But it is that man's life. In NL this man had often bumped his nose because you don't count when you're over 30, right?
Giving advice, in this case to go to Thailand as a single man, detracts from the statement, I think, by doing this it is no longer a statement.
In my opinion, the formulation of this statement consists more of promoting the country and its female inhabitants, it is somewhat like an advertisement on a dating site.
The prejudices and stereotypes that exist about Thailand are partly helped by this, and then the part in which it is written that Thai women like men who are reliable partners, not a butterfly, a drinking organ or a liar. And certainly not unimportant: being willing to take care of her in good times and bad.
And it doesn't matter if you are young or old, short or tall, pretty or ugly, fat or thin, bald or a bunch of hair, for many Thai women it doesn't matter that much.
Many of these terms are correct, but it is also written that Thai women like to flirt, THEY DO!!
Let's be honest, if you are a single man who in some cases is not even able to decorate an old ladies bicycle, and you read this and you put it all together, it only matters one thing, and that is money!
Or would you think that girl of around twenty walks next to a man of sixty because he still looks so hot?
I quote: Let's be honest, if you are a single man who in some cases is not even able to decorate an old ladies bicycle, and you read this and you put it all together, it only matters one thing, and that is money!
Or would you think that girl of around twenty walks next to a man of sixty because he still looks so hot?
Funny that you start about stereotypes and then come up with the biggest clichés that exist. Very special….
@Khun Peter A stereotype is something different from a cliché, A stereotype is an exaggerated image of a group of people that often does not (completely) correspond to reality.... A cliché, on the other hand, is a node in daily communication that loses its power when it is used a lot, so I don't really understand what's special about this.
And while we're quoting: you said in a previous response that I'm not impressed by all those 'Thailand experts' with their horror stories. The stories about failures are in great demand because someone else's misery is apparently more fun than success and happiness.
This goes a long way, especially for those who are happy with their Thai partner (including myself), these kinds of statements are annoying, they now ensure that as soon as they hear that you have a Thai partner, you have to explain yourself to the whole world how or that you met her, and then the prejudices come, like oh definitely in a bar, yes because I've seen that on TV or read it on the internet, etc etc
Not that I want to be a world improver, or a moral knight, but I think it is good for non-Thai connoisseurs that they can also read or see the other side of Thailand, so a little resistance in this case can do no harm.
Unfortunately I don't understand a bit of what you're trying to say, but that will be my fault.
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Hello.
@ Khan Peter.
I don't understand the above story either, just as little as you do.
What I do know is that Thailand can be both heaven and hell for a single man. I've been through hell here, and now heaven with my 2nd Thai girlfriend.
I think she likes me, but you can never be sure.
What you can be sure of is that if you don't have money, and can't provide security for your existence, you can forget it...
A beer belly with a full wallet is more successful here than an adonis without money.
But you get a lot in return, I get pampered like a baby, but sometimes it's irritating that money is always the topic of conversation.
That's something I wasn't aware of about Thailand, even more so after being here for a year.
I don't blame my girlfriend… yes, she worked in a pub, I hate the word “beer bar”, and yes, she quit her job for me, and you have to suffer the consequences.
She can hardly live on the heavenly dew, so you have to take care of her, and in my case also for her daughter… but you have to do the same in Belgium or the Netherlands…
But in exchange I have a very beautiful, sweet wife and daughter, of whom I am very proud, and whom I could not do without for the world.
In fact, the only annoyance is the fact that Asians think completely differently from us Westerners, and that needs to be worked on from both sides. But other than that I really never want to go back.
Best regards.
Rudy.
All in all when I read the defenses here… what is important in life now, the short-sightedness, the state pension, and just thinking oh oh nice, such a nice Thai girl… every farang knows that it is ultimately about take care. And the Thai women will not care if you have hair on your back or not… a farang is, let's be honest, a nice guarantee for a better life if, as a Thai, you don't have such a good life in most cases have… let us not criticize each other about what is good and what is bad.
Correct. The Thai person you don't run into in a bar and still falls for you, of course also thinks about her future. I thought that this is no different in Belgium and the Netherlands. And the exceptions prove the rule. Given that there is no such thing as a properly functioning social security system for the vast majority of the Thai population and that they will never get out of poverty if they stay where they are, it seems logical to me that something should be done to improve the future. to secure. Moreover, you should not forget that the Asians look at the Europeans as it also happens the other way around. An Asian may find a well-groomed and good-looking older man handsome and all those caring Asian ladies are not by definition roughly 25 years old. Then it often starts on a basis of “I will take good care of you if you take good care of me (and sometimes my family)” I will certainly agree. But look, you're getting older too, just like them. And such agreement can sometimes grow from some kind of agreement to love. Strange perhaps, but I also know two "economic couples" in my circle of friends who married each other purely for the money and where after years a lovely relationship has grown out of. Besides, I'd rather be a happy man in a caring relationship (well, even in our region, a non-working woman costs money) than the richest idiot in the graveyard. Finally, if you have chosen a Thai woman as your life partner, you now have just as many guarantees that she will stay with you for life as if you were to gamble with a Western woman. Admittedly, it takes some patience and understanding, but you also have that with our western women who are usually more demanding towards their partner. And respect that doesn't cost money you still have to earn.
According to Wikipedia, paradise has several meanings. On the one hand as a beautiful garden, on the other hand the (usually exotic) foreign country. In the Christian tradition, paradise is also a place where a person can go AFTER his death (and NOT after his retirement): a new heaven and a new earth. A place where man is no longer plagued by death and misery and where peace and justice reign.
The answer to the statement is therefore clear: Thailand is NOT a paradise for anyone, including single men.
Christian tradition : A place where people are no longer plagued….. Etc.. Haven't spoken to anyone yet who can confirm that. Get talked into! What I do experience myself and also see around me, is that you can really hit it here, with a woman who is willing to iron your shirts and wash your dirty socks. Who gets up cheerfully every day, cooks delicious meals for you, and also gives you that paradise feeling in bed! In short, it's just how you experience it!
Hmmm Chris you start with that Wikipedia attaches 3 different meanings to the word paradise. Regardless of whether Wikipedia has thus exhaustively named the description of paradise; then you only go into the last meaning, namely the belief explanation of paradise. I find that rather limited and especially your interpretation. My interpretation is that paradise is a place where you can be happy. And Thailand doesn't seem like an unpleasant place to realize that.
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Thai women really enjoy flirting.
Be wary if a Thai lady flirts.
A good woman does not flirt in Thailand. 🙂
Then I have worked with bad women all these years…. as a flight attendant, who often flew to Thailand and worked with Thai colleagues. One of the nicest things you did on board was flirting with your Thai colleagues, fun and innocent. And they all came from good families…
It just depends on what the point of the flirting is. I think Peter also meant it in a less serious context.
Do not forget this….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Thailand
Between the ages of 15 and 64, Thailand has a 'women surplus' of 600.000 women. They also want to hear from the man!
Is all true! But………. Watch your count, there are many, many snakes under the Thai grass.
I too am tempted to throw some juicy clichés and prejudices into the air. Prejudice does not have the property of arising entirely out of the blue. For example, prejudices about crime among non-Western immigrants are quite strongly supported by statistics about the population in our prisons, but that's another topic.
In my opinion, the prejudices about relationships with Thai ladies are often correct, but mind you, not always!! The cause is often not necessarily in the ladies in question, but also in the men. However, this is rarely paid attention to. Most men are quite pleased with themselves. These men have all kinds of expectations, without making the effort to understand the Thai, to get to know the culture, to understand family relationships, to learn the language and so on.
Fortunately, I do not have to respond to the statement itself, because it concerns men between the ages of 40 and 60 and I am already 62. By the way, I have no hair on my back, but I do have hair on my head and no big belly, but a good pension, so fortunately I don't fall into any target group.
Dear Bramsiam
Where you decide that you do not belong to any target group, you have misinterpreted the statement, I think.
After all, the statement implicitly says that especially money (taking care) is important for a Thai candidate partner. Appearance and age, according to the statement, play at most an unimportant secondary role.
So it would have been better if you had omitted the detailed adjective about your pension (fine), because precisely that aspect makes you, always according to the statement, a coveted candidate for the Thai beauties who want that beauty cashed in as quickly as possible (also literally 🙂 ) to see…
Nevertheless, I wish you every possible happiness and success.
Kito
What has not really been discussed here but does matter is the following and this to understand the motivations of Thai women more as a foreigner.
If you have learned to function on survival strategy and you meet someone who does not even see the many opportunities you have as a foreigner, then you are easy prey if you cannot behave properly in the future. That is why the family ties are so be strong, today I have something and share it because tomorrow I will have nothing and then you help me. It comes down to indicating from the very beginning what is possible and what is NOT possible, where the limit lies, in all aspects of life life. (Do you want to become a modern family slave)! Why shouldn't she help her family with so much wealth at her disposal) But if you are in an advantage position in the beginning of a relationship you tend to forget that (you could miss out on something which you can only dream of in the west) This strategy (survival and seize opportunities) you cannot compete with as a Westerner because we have not learned to deal with poverty. You can apply this to a very large part of ASIA. Our perception is Western and not Eastern, so if you can't find a middle ground it remains difficult and the money rules and you keep dancing until the music stops (no money no love) Education level also makes you understand each other better. can also be lucky and find a really good woman, but I would still do my homework first to improve your chances of success.
I would like to comment on that level of education. You have a point, but that doesn't mean that a woman without proper education can't be trusted. Most do not get the chance to study because there is no money. And yes, then you have to watch your count a bit more and knead her yourself a bit where you still can. There are really gems in between, but you have to invest some time, money, understanding and patience in it. And that is even easier if you do some documentation about the country and its people beforehand. Until further notice, my partner is a beautiful girl with a golden heart and yes, sometimes I also have to figuratively tap her on the fingers because of some interpretations about the rich west that are difficult for her to understand. Of course, if you go in your sixties for a young girl in her early twenties who smokes, drinks, and above all has a lot of fun, then Thailand will really not be a paradise for you.
Imagine it; a single middle-aged man, groggy, groggy, divorced, with a reasonable, financially sound picture and sick and tired of being alone.
Man goes on a version tour, and after a short period finds out that finding a new life partner is a very optimistic idea.
Due to the demands of the ladies, the bar in the Netherlands is very high, so high in material and immaterial matters that he wonders whether his country is left alone.
Then the man hears from Thailand.
Talk to "experience experts", and decide to aim his arrows at Thailand
In Thailand, with some searching, a suitable lid can also be found on its jar.
Our man, not completely retarded, doesn't look for his partner in a place of entertainment, doesn't want a lady who could be his daughter or perhaps his granddaughter, but bingo, finds a woman who was married before, who is ten years younger, her children have left home, and he categorically refuses to live in her village, or even in the same province.
He is also wise enough not to get too big, buying a house is not an option, he puts the car and motorcycle in his own name, and he makes it clear from the start that they can have a good life together, but that he is certainly not rich, but will take good care of her as long as he lives.
And of course that his bank balance is low and that his pension and AOW is his total income…..
Ergo, a wise man, a prudent man?
Yes, both the woman and the man know all too well that “I Love You” is not really a lasting binding agent, that a marriage (also in NL) can quite often be seen as a business agreement, and that both benefit from it that being together lasts as long as possible.
Too corporate?
Harsh?
Perhaps in the eyes of those who hope for the right one and are willing to risk everything for it.
But certainly not stupid.
If one has had a previous marriage, and due to legal proceedings a confrontational divorce arises, one should be wise and not put oneself in a similar situation anymore.
A relationship with a Thai can turn out very well, if you take a tight approach and implement the conditions for that turn out well, and above all, persevere.
Ergo, is Thailand a paradise?
Well no.
But a very attractive alternative to staying in the Netherlands.
And above all, take good care of yourself and your own interests.
And don't forget to be good to your Thai wife/girlfriend, she deserves that.
And looking for them too.
And to sing along with Chris:
Paradise on earth does not exist.
And whether it exists in the afterlife, well, I don't know.
I met my Thai wife through mediation –
because she can never talk to a strange Farang by herself!
(and almost no one understands English)
I explained to her with hands and feet from the beginning
what I want and expect from her and what my financial situation is –
she then said what she wants and expects and we came to a
good basis , to start a relationship .
With Buddha's help, love comes very quickly...
(and Buddha said to her, she only has one man in her life –
and that's what I have become - many thanks to Buddha also from my side)
That I immediately started adjusting to her life
(always smile and keen to use aircondition rooms)
treat her like a lady and also don't drink alcohol,
have long hair but am slim,
I had already fulfilled most of her expectations.
All that I try to understand and live her culture
is highly valued by her and her parents , family and friends .
After a short time, her father raises his daughter's hand on a beautiful evening
placed in my hand – and all was now arranged for the future –
Now eight years later… still in love with each other
and never any problems!
You have to do something, there are enough good women in Thailand
but they also want a good man !!!
After a stay of more than 1 year in Thailand, I would like to mention that we have seen very little real love between a farang and a thai. ( mnl or vrl )
We heard the same stories everywhere we went. We farang are essentially a walking ATM. Always money. No matter how sweet they all are, 9 times out of 10 there is a catch. And often it is about money or anything to do with money. So we say be careful, even if you are still so in love with the Thai. No matter how sweet and touching they are. So if you fall in love, first look the cat out of the tree and don't give yourself away completely.
And Thailand is and remains a wonderful country despite everything, including the people! But first try to "know" the country and the people a little bit. Good luck with love
Not only in Thailand but also in Cambodia - Vietnam - Laos - Burma - and many more countries there are women who would like to have a [rich] man from our countries and neighboring countries, but also in the Netherlands
there are enough women who are tired of being alone.
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It's the same everywhere no money no honey. Dutch ladies do exactly the same. When there is more money, love is also over. There they have social services. If that is also the case in Thailand, then it was exactly the same as in the Netherlands. And there is more respect in Thailand.
If you are looking for sex, laundress, cook, etc., then you are in the right place in Thailand. But you will find real love there sporadically. Many men think they live in paradise, but sometimes they come out disappointed after years. Flat broke, they go back to the Netherlands. there are also men who have found happiness.
I completely agree with this statement, and if you go there as a married couple, some must be very strong in their shoes.
Dear,
The ones who break Thai ladies down because they just want to touch your hard earned money, that might be true but you are the one who gives it to them.
If you get put in the sack it's only up to you not the women......unless a gun is held to your head.
Why just throw it back at Thailand and immediately a lot of whining about Thais, Malays, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Chinese who only care about our money.
It's just important not to act too crazy when you meet a first "girlfriend". Live with the Thai like a Thai and you command respect and a large number of friends.
I have a reasonably good job myself, but I know enough couples in my area where both work. And then the Thai often as an interior caretaker, dishwasher, chambermaid and also where the man comes home with a minimum or only WAO.
Is Thailand a dream country: YES
Is Thailand a paradise: Definitely NOT
But that also applies to many other countries.
Mind you, in Thailand it is the task of the (mainly eldest) daughters to support her parents when they are no longer able to do so themselves. Your non-wealthy sweetheart draws the amounts necessary for this maintenance obligation from your bank account. Through a relationship with a Thai you step into your sweetheart's flip flops and pay not only for your own family's expenses, but also for the expenses of the extended family. Then stay happy with…
Why not if you have a good income! It's best to stay happy, Giving does good!
With only an AOW benefit to live on, your bank account balance will not remain positive for a month. I wouldn't be happy with that...
A wide variety of opinions. Most will contain some truth, but with a statement like this there is no absolute answer. All I can say in my nearly 27 years in Thailand is that a disproportionate share of Thailand's older seekers have nothing more to offer than a little money. No understanding nor any intention to learn (language, culture etc.). Have you ever read somewhere that 95% of farang-thai woman relationships last less than 5 years. Doesn't surprise me, at the end of the day building a permanent relationship in Thailand is even more complicated than in the Netherlands. Unless, of course, you set the bar so low that a relationship can be called "good" when good conduct in bed and in the kitchen are the ultimate criteria. Therefore, in my opinion, paradise on earth does not exist, although I am more than reasonably happy with a Thai woman and a now 20-year-old daughter. Whether that paradise exists in the hereafter we will leave open.
As expected again a lot of complaining about money.
If you are a sole earner in the Netherlands, is it also about 'take care' for your partner or do you let her starve and walk in burlap sacks? The Dutch don't always have to whine about money. You also get something in return, don't you? A nice, beautiful and caring woman. What else do you want? If you're afraid for your money, you should stay behind the geraniums in your desolate house in the Netherlands. And especially don't go outside for a newspaper or a cup of coffee because that costs money.
And if you die, the tax authorities take some of your money and the rest goes to the relatives who buy a new car or book a trip to Thailand. Oh irony….
Thumbs up for this explanation!
Dear KhunPeter
Everyone has their own taste of course.
For example, I absolutely want, when I die, MY surviving relatives to benefit financially and materially from my legacy.
What I certainly do NOT want is that the family of a Thai life partner who has never really accepted me and as such has never really been included in the (family) clan will dance on my grave (at the expense of my own blood relatives, who, in unlike that Thai (family) clan, they have always continued to support and love).
Sans aucune rancor, and I don't respect your opinion any less for that, but that's how I see it (and I'm sure I'm anything but alone).
Greetings
Kito
sorry Kito, if you feel like your in-laws aren't accepting you, don't hang around them. Then you live as far away from that as possible and it's between you and your wife. Thailand is vast, and if it is 1000 km away in Thailand or in the Netherlands that you live with her, the relationship between you and your wife is what counts. And if you then reason that she shouldn't have any of your money after she's given you the best years of her life, then I'm afraid your relationship can't last too long. Well, it's easy for me to talk, my in-laws are limited to her 2 children and a sister who knows she shouldn't expect anything from me after she first gave my partner a nice tour. Anyway, we have not been together for 5 years and her son could also cause some headaches. I'm not worried about my soon-to-be stepdaughter. She certainly won't be a barmaid if it's up to me.
Not even. Paradise does not exist. You can try to find your own paradise, but that just depends on who you are, what you want, what you have and what you do with it. One finds his (or her) happiness here in the Netherlands, the other elsewhere in this world. If you are looking for a relationship then you must have something to offer your potential other half, the type who "can't decorate a bicycle yet" will have a hard time anywhere in the world if you are looking for a love relationship, or you just have to find the find a pearl that sees through your flaws and sees your love and wants to share it with you. Love can happen anywhere in the world and at the most unexpected moment. You can go anywhere in the world for this.
If mutual love is less of a priority but you have other motivations, visiting a country with a lower GNP makes it a bit easier. In many relationships around the world, both partners must still be able to take care of each other on all kinds of fronts, such as attention, respect and, of course, financially. You can then travel as a man or woman to a 'poorer' country in Asia, Africa or Latin America where the average person is less well off than you. Convincing a partner that you can and will support him or her is immediately a lot easier. What you and that partner think about this is entirely up to you. If you are not looking for someone who will sell his heart to you but will take care of you as long as you offer security (roof over your head, improved financial position, maybe even a step higher on the social ladder), totally fine right? ? You can try to find such a person in Thailand, but you can also go elsewhere in the world. Single women who cannot yet decorate a bicycle are said to look for it in Africa, for example.. Also fine. Do you unfortunately have prejudices that it is purely about money or the papers or that love can never even play a role... That makes it a bit less pleasant as a normal bachelor if people look at you as if you are a victim...
As for Thailand or other South East Asian countries (Philippines, etc.) putting your marriage at risk, I'll save those kinds of statements for those who are just as concerned that a woman will run off on a Mediterranean vacation with the basement or street vendor there…
Just go and find your dream country, for one it is the low countries, the other prefers to be in Spain or somewhere high in the mountains, and for some that can indeed be Asia or specifically Thailand. Fine, and then try to make it a paradise yourself, life is short so seize the day. Do what you want and what makes you happy as long as you don't harm someone else, and if you come across someone who wants to be in a relationship with you (on whatever grounds), do that if it makes you both happier. Let all know-it-alls talk, follow your heart and your mind, enjoy.
Very straight statement as far as you can speak of a statement in this context. What about the boys?
Dear Yuundai, I am straight myself so it is difficult for me to describe the experiences of gay men and/or women. Maybe an idea that you send a story or statement to the editors?
Thailand is a paradise for single men….; I totally agree with this statement 🙂 as long as you stay single 🙂
If you commit to a Thai woman, you will get the same (relational) problems as with a Dutch woman. So why commit to 1 woman when there is a whole country full of these beautiful exotic ladies. So for me (single) Thailand is definitely paradise in that regard.
There is something in that, because when you are married, you are no longer single and you are chased out of paradise by an angel with a flaming sword.
Thailand will surely be a paradise for men. And in the meantime I also know that many men fall into the trap of a Thai beauty who only sees you as a walking wallet and does not have one but several farangs and where love only comes from one side. On the other hand, in the last two years I have met compatriots who are very happy with their Thai relationship where you can clearly see that they like each other and take care of each other as they should. Two years ago I visited a friend in Thailand who has a second residence there. It was not the intention, but how is it possible to get to know a Thai woman who worked for a company in Ayuthaya on a modest wage. She was divorced and her children were raised by her mother about 400 km away in the Isaan. I fell in love with her little by little but kept both feet on the ground. At first I thought of it as a holiday adventure. I am not yet retired myself and still have to work for a while. She barely knew a few words of English and I made her understand that this was important for communication between the two of us and might also be interesting for her future. I left for Belgium and kept in touch by phone. In her meager spare time she went to school to learn English and to my surprise she was able to have a decent conversation with me in a few weeks which only increased the infatuation. She had a taste for it and also took other subjects, both general and vocational. I happily paid for all the lessons. A fortune to her, peanuts to me. Through that education I saw a shy so-called stupid Thai woman blossom into a smart smart woman. A few months later I visited her in her small room in Ayuthaya. We first visited chiang mai and then set course for her home port Surin. Surin city is still quite modern but when I visited the village where her mother and children stayed it was really shocking. Poverty trump. Well, we talked a bit about our future. I have always worked and wish she would keep working as she is a lot younger and also made it clear to her that I was not a cash cow. She told about friends who did not work but received a monthly allowance from their farang(s) that they could live on and when they returned to their motherland while celebrating with other men. She didn't want that and of course I certainly didn't. She only wanted 1 man for herself. She had kicked her ex-husband out for adultery. We had a nice time together and I left for Belgium. I had bought her another tablet so that we could skype in the future. We Skyped daily. It is of course more fun with images than with the telephone. I occasionally sent her an extra penny without exaggerating. One day she told of her dream to open a hair salon in Surin so that she could be close to her children again. Of course money was needed for a takeover and installation, money which she obviously did not have. Then I seriously thought. Do I give her the chance? Am I falling into the same trap as others? I was convinced of her good intentions and that she really liked me, but of course you are never 100%. Then I took the risk. It wasn't a fortune, but it was still a reasonable sum. I certainly wanted to give her a better life. She has been renting a beautifully decorated hair and care salon with a home in Surin for over a year now. I have already visited her a few times, always had a great time, and in the meantime gave her some commercial tips and decorated the salon a bit, because I am a handy Harry. She is working hard now, the salon is doing well. She is still undergoing further training and in the meantime she already employs a girl of her own. I even follow it here from Belgium on my tablet every now and then. Nice to say sawadi cap to the customers. She is satisfied and of course I am too that my investment has been well spent. I don't know what our future looks like, but it is the intention that if I will work less, I will spend longer periods in Thailand with her. Then we'll see. And for a good understanding. Thai women also have it if they mean it for men who look good, are not fat and are well-groomed. It's not that I don't have any opportunities in Belgium, on the contrary, it happened to me by chance.
@ Luc:
I am really pleased to read your story. For several months I have been in contact with a Thai woman whom I will meet for the first time next week. The daily Skype conversations are going great and cupid is lurking somewhere… We will be together for about 14 days, that way we will get to know each other better (both pluses and minuses). With some reservations and taking into account the different opinions, I think I can form a more realistic picture of how a Thai woman is put together. To date, there has never been any discussion of financial matters, she also has an income herself and I do not have the impression that a farang is being sought that could give her security in that area. What particularly strikes and appeals to me is the genuine, lovely concern she shows… In any case, I look forward to it and will tell you my experience later…
Tip : be strict, fair, but also frank with your Thai girlfriend.
Show what you expect. Listen to her wishes. Explain the concept of "saving money". If you as partners can live with that, and if there is the spark, then you have a good chance of a long-term relationship.
Yes, I also melt when a graceful Thai smiles for me. Often they are dolls: slim, small, graceful. Do keep your wits about it.
I am not “looking” for a relationship. Should there come a day when I look for a partner, it will almost certainly be a Thai (living in Europe or Thailand).
That is indeed 100% correct.
The part about Holland and Belgium is certainly correct, nice ladies are almost out of reach for many men here.
There are only a few available and those that are available. often difficult to approach or decorate in e.g. the pub. And on dating sites, the ladies are often bombarded with hearts and e-mails by hundreds of men, so how big is the chance that she will choose you…
What I have not read yet is that more and more ladies here prefer to have a foreign partner with, for example, an Arab background for God knows what for a reason or prefer men with a tinted skin color..
I know from many stories around me that a Thai or Asian partner really doesn't always have to be a party, don't forget the differences in culture and customs.
And don't forget that many bar girls work in a bar to make money and not just to please you. But of course there are also plenty of positive experiences with Asian ladies I would say you read very carefully, don't think you know everything at once, never go too fast (wanting to get married after a month already) and then you might be very happy become with your Thai partner because alone is only certain after a certain age.
I completely agree with the statement, I went to visit a friend because he was getting married, but the first two days I was with a lady 430 km. further on, very nice etc. When I came back she was also with me, it was very nice! N>B> I have never been asked for money by ladies or anything, I think that is also a misunderstanding, or I was lucky that she was a teacher and had enough money. I did pay for the rental car, but she charged everything else off, and I immediately saw a lot of Thailand!!
Yes, here we go again the Thailand misogynists against the people with the so-called colored glasses.
Did you read the statement carefully, thought it was about a paradise for bachelors.
I say yes to this statement, so it's not about relationships or money.
It must be said that a large number of people cannot resist spewing their bile if the Thai woman is mentioned.
I wish all these “experts” good luck.
It is definitely a Country to find a partner in old age!!
Unfortunately, this is always only based on the search for a female partner.
As a frequent Thailandblog reader, I sometimes find it disturbing that men or women are never mentioned here who fall on the same sex.
This older group also finds it difficult to find a new partner in the Netherlands, and this group of people also find a new partner more easily in Thailand.
It will be useful to pay more attention to this as well .
Thailandblog is not specifically aimed at straight people, I do have that feeling !!
I have been coming to spend the winter in Thailand for 6 years now.
Dear John, I am straight myself so it is difficult for me to describe the experiences of gay men and/or women. Maybe an idea that you send a story or statement to the editors?
My Indian mother-in-law (born 1923 in Menado, the “tail” of Celebes and from 1964 in NL ) said: “the beauty of a man over 35 is in his wallet”.
In the more than thirty years that I have experience with (traveling in) Thailand, I have seen a few things. It was seldom an uplifting sight. The farang men I know who have had such an affair let their libido prevail over their reason. Because of this and the misunderstood cultural difference, it ended in a dramatic debacle. I would not recommend it to anyone given the low success rate. But I'm under no illusions. The distance between brain and crotch is too great for most.
Is Thailand a paradise? Of course not. Not for the Thai for them it's starting to look more like hell at this point.
Is Thailand a paradise for single men??? Sure. How am I so sure?
Because I once walked around as a bachelor myself. The most beautiful time of my life
I do have a warning for all those bachelors
they hope to meet the best woman in the world there
I have to disappoint that one, which I have already taken with me. But the second best is of course also great.
It is a pity that Khun did not put Peter under his position that comments containing the word money would not be posted. What a joke about money.
With best regards from Kees an ex bachelor
Hello.
@ Kees 1
I don't quite agree with your statement...
First, I have the best wife in the world, and I came back to Pattaya just for her.
But to a man who loves his wife, she is always his queen, simple as that.
I disagree with your second statement, see my post above. No bullshit about money, pure reality.
I rent 2 rooms, one for us, and opposite us on the other side of the street, against second road is my friend's room, where her daughter sleeps…
I pay 2 times internet, electricity, and the costs for school… luckily I can do that with my monthly income.
It's not about money, it's just the reality… and that's also the case in the Netherlands, Belgium or elsewhere.
If you go to the market here on soi Buakhao for food, or to Seven Eleven without money, you will get nothing, simple as that.
And yes, many Thais are having a hard time, I see that every day here, but I consider myself lucky to be able to take care of my wife and her daughter…
No luxury, food from the stalls on the street, a beer, and today 40°C… tell yourself, what more could a person want, and if it's too hot a whole day on the beach for 2 times nothing… you'll never see me more back!!!
Best regards.
Rudy
During my travels in the North, North-East of Thailand, and my stay in Hua Hin, I met about twenty “mixed” couples. Most had been together for a few years and had a quietly rippling relationship, with respect for each other and they found each other especially in what they both didn't find before.
They also talked about broken relationships due to often misplaced expectations of both the farang with the wallet and his Thai “beauty”. . .
Generalization is therefore certainly not the message, and congratulations to those who have made their paradise in Thailand together.