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Home » Calls » Wanted: Thai women with a Dutch man
Wanted: Thai women with a Dutch man
Are you Thai and do you have a Dutch husband? Would you like to participate in our research?
We (Bureau Veldkamp) are looking for Thai women who have come to the Netherlands in the past ten years to marry/live together with a Dutch man.
How did that go, what are your experiences in the Netherlands, what does your life look like now? Commissioned by the Social and Cultural Planning Office (CPB), we want to find an answer to these questions by sharing the experiences with each other in a group discussion. Six to eight women take part in a group discussion led by a researcher.
Experience shows that it is usually very pleasant during such a conversation. The interview will take place in February, will last approximately two hours and will be held at an easily accessible location in Amsterdam or Utrecht.
When you participate you will receive a reward of € 40!
Interested? Please contact the Veldkamp office! by telephone: 020 – 5225 999 (ask for Ieke Genee) by email: [email protected]
Hey, how nice we had this in the mailbox last week... I'm always curious what exactly they want with this data and what they're going to do with it.
Sounds interesting. What kind of research/report is the CPB (Central Planning Bureau) going to do exactly, something with migration & integration in general, or more focused on, for example, (SE) Asia? For example, in 2011 the SCP (Social & Cultural Planning Office) had a report on Chinese people in the Netherlands. I am curious about what the CPB plans to do, whether it will be more focused on the economic aspects of various migrants? I also assume that some kind of weighing is made to see whether the candidates are representative of the "type" of migrant who comes here? An interview with only agricultural workers with little to no education will yield different results than highly educated persons (with or without work experience in their country of origin).
My partner only arrived in the Netherlands at the end of 2012, so he will probably not meet the requirements. She has only just started a State Exam course (Dutch at B1 level, possibly later B2), in search of a temporary job to look for a job in administration later. In Thailand she had a good job in that sector (as the best in class, she obtained a Bachelor's degree in this). Perhaps she will be welcome for a report in 10 years? :p
Already 2 minuses but no comments yet. Anyone who disagrees or steps on toes about my comment that such an interview should be representative of the Thais who have migrated to the Netherlands? If you conduct a survey among Dutch people (on economic status, social status, etc.), you do not conduct a survey among people who all have the same profile (all low/middle/highly educated, all poor/average/rich, all simple/average/special/high track etc). I think some readers may have interpreted my post as if it was negative towards certain Thais, which is emphatically not the case. There is nothing in general wrong with poorly educated Thais or something, or those who do not have a job here or a "simple" job (restaurant, massage, cleaning, ..). My point is that I hope that people will not only interview ladies with a lower socio-economic profile because that does not seem representative of the group as a whole. The reader should not confuse this as a condemnation of a group/type of ladies. As long as the ladies and their partners are happy, right?
Moderator: comment on the article and not just each other, that's chatting.
Dear Rob, it is common knowledge that the Thai ladies who stay here longer have a low level of education and often come from the countryside (Isaan). It is therefore this group that should be seen as representative. That really doesn't need to be investigated further. Reading the call, the research concerns the extent to which Thai ladies have integrated into Dutch society here.
Normally it can be said that education and social background will largely determine your future development. However, as long as your wife does not have an excellent command of the Dutch language, she can forget about an office job. Furthermore, the level of education in Asia is not at the same level and is also classified lower here. I know several Thai ladies with even a master's degree who simply work in a restaurant or in home care.
The extent to which a foreign woman, with a completely different culture, will develop here in the Netherlands, strongly depends on the level of education, social and financial position of the man and, last but not least, on the extent to which he will support her. to stake!
The embassy should have a good idea of the educational background of prospective emigrants, since 2006 people who want to migrate to the Netherlands have to take a (language) exam at the embassy. This includes recording age, gender, education level and Latin literacy. This data is used in the so-called six-monthly “Monitor Integration Exam Abroad”. Unfortunately, this monitor only records the global education level of the candidates (m/f), only the pass percentage can be found per country/location.
Perhaps the embassy in Bangkok can provide this information, perhaps material for an article about the background of Thai people who come to the Netherlands. If you look at DBS figures, these are mainly women who mostly move in with a native Dutch person and sometimes with a partner of the same origin.
Worldwide, the data of education are as follows:
“Educational level is increasing: 62 Before the introduction of the new examination requirements, the percentage of low-skilled people was constantly around 23% of the total number of candidates integrating. In the second half of 2011 and the first half of 2012, this decreased to approximately 18% and 19%. This decrease is offset by an increase in the share of highly educated people from 27% before the introduction of the new examination requirements to 35% in 2011-1 and 37% in 2012-2.” (source: integration exam monitor abroad).
I completely agree with the rest of your post:
In a survey such as the one announced here, it is important that the candidates are representative of their group. In addition, it is simply interesting to know whether the prejudice “the Thais who come here are almost all poorly educated women” (who then probably also had a job at a lower social level such as the massage sector, prostitution, hotel staff, kitchen staff, agricultural laborer) and so forth). Why is this related? Indeed, because this is one of the important factors that influence integration. Your level of education and work experience then weigh considerably. Of course, there are also other factors such as your personal ambitions (here you also read about women who had “nothing” but with the help of their partner they have become business successful, wonderful!!), flexibility (dealing with the new culture, society, etc.). ).
Regarding our personal situation: yes, it is a fact that Thai education is of somewhat lower quality and a bachelor's or master's degree is rated lower here. I would rather guess her level at something like MBO or MBO+. Her ambitions are not lacking and neither is her drive, she is super motivated to learn the language here and we are perfectly aware that as long as she does not speak Dutch fluently, she can forget about an office job. This is both a source of motivation and a source of stress, after all she has had to give up a job and future prospects that are quite nice by Thai standards and she is starting from scratch again. Hats off!
So I am curious about the results of this research, and I wish all Thai who have come here good luck, it is not always easy. Whether you had an education or not, whatever your job, it was a big step for all of them.
correction: DBS = CBS. These have information online at statnet about the origin of (married) partners.
So it remains + and -. i still don't understand what is the function of + or -.
Why not representative? This kind of research involves a cross-section of this target group.
so just sign up
I just asked Soj, in the end she has been in the Netherlands for 15 years. But she's not thrilled. She doesn't expect much from such a conversation. Moreover, she prefers to keep private matters in the family.
FYI for the other commenters. Yes, my wife has no more education than the primary school in her village. And yet she is a smart, decisive woman who has made good use of the opportunities she was given. A woman to be proud of.