Abhisit's move
Abhisit-on-move
By Khan Peter
Bangkok seems stunned after a straight right. Recover, revive and ready for the next destructive round?
A lot has become clear in the past few days
The Redshirts turned out to be less peaceful than they claimed. Almost half of Bangkok was set on fire. A complete arsenal of weapons was found in the camp. Hand grenades, bombs and grenade launchers. Something different from the red hands they like to clap with.
The intervention of the army is yet another proof of the incompetence of the Thai government. Using controlled violence is not in the dictionary of the Thai army. I think next time they will also use bombers and tanks to chase the demonstrators away.
Reconciliation between rich and poor
Abhisit wants reconciliation. “We all live in the same house,” he said in his speech yesterday. Yeah, right. But those with a red border are tucked away in the basement or in the shed. The elite sit on the sofa enjoying cigars and expensive whiskey.
Divide wealth
As a Thailand If reforms are not carried out quickly, this battle could go on for years with all its consequences. Thailand has become a prosperous country with a fast growing economy. Together with China and India, Thailand is the economic tiger in Asia.
This also justifies a fair distribution of wealth. That is the only way to prevent a possible civil war. The genie is out of the bottle, there's no going back.
What has to happen?
The wealthy Thai will have to share. Raise taxes and introduce basic social services. The main reforms that should be implemented quickly:
- Better education (quality and accessibility, poor Thais should also be able to study).
- Affordable and good health care for all Thai people (much has already improved, but it is still far from optimal).
- Stimulate economic development in the North and Northeast.
- Favorable credit conditions for poor Thais (micro credits).
- Tackling corruption.
- New elections.
- Democratic reforms (less power for military and civil servants).
If visible reforms are not implemented soon, things will only escalate further. If Abhisit really does something for the poor Thai, he will take the wind out of Thaksin and the communists. The social differences are now too great. All Thai want to benefit from the new prosperity.
Better half turned than completely lost.
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“A complete arsenal of weapons was found in the camp. Hand grenades, bombs and grenade launchers. Something different from the red hands they like to clap with. ”
What did the army shoot at? With paper wads?
The Reds could have used all that arsenal, but they didn't.
6 undetonated carbombs found at Rajprasong, meant to completely blow up the area
Head Forensic Department Dr Pornthip Rojanasunan disclosed that car bombs were found by security task force in 4 Rajprasong areas. The bombs were put together in a manner almost ready to detonate, she said. Government Spokesperson Dr Panithan Watanayakorn pointed out that they were meant to blow up Rajprasong area.
Earlier today, Dr Pornthip had found almost 1,000 suspected explosive materials scattered around Rajprasong. DNA cross-matching is currently in progress.
How silly do you have to be if, after everyone has been chased away, all those weapons and ammunition suddenly lie there? Any evidence that the red shirts put that there? Do you really think if the red shirts had this stuff they wouldn't have used it?
I agree with the answer from dutchexpatt, where else than certainly in Thailand you can take this kind of blackening with a grain of salt.
I also find it rather exaggerated that half of Bangkok has been burned down, but remain objective and do not do sensational reporting.
@Isankillah
I'm not objective. You don't have to, I am a blogger and not a journalist (who are usually not objective either). Anyone with an opinion can start a blog, freedom of speech and the power of the internet. Visitors who are disturbed by this can ignore the blog and read blogs that do match their own opinion. Also the power of the internet.
I had a bit more sympathy for the Reds, but that has only become less. Unfortunately, I must conclude that they do not have their own followers under control. I can only support parties that try to achieve their goals peacefully and democratically. As far as I'm concerned, the occupation was fine. But the attacks with grenade launchers and hand grenades, as well as the looting and burning of buildings, goes too far for me. Then they do what they accuse the Thai government of, excessive force.
I do agree with the Reds that the current government must be replaced and new (fair) elections must be held. But I already wrote that in the post.
So I believe that you are blowing things up and I am free to respond to your blog from there or do you prefer that I write up your alley.
@Isankillah
No, Jan, you can also express your opinion here. Very good indeed, that is also the purpose of a blog.
The only restriction are the house rules:
https://www.thailandblog.nl/over-thailandblog/
But as long as you don't break it, you can say I'm blowing things up (a nice play on words after all the explosives found yesterday and today).
Regards,
Peter
Those who use violence always lose sympathy, but the origin of the protest remains justified, equal rights and treatment if one starts working on it, it should be possible to solve it, but more often things are promised and not fulfilled by politicians here too.
Do I have doubts about the exact truth about the number of weapons found or certain messages etc, it is Thailand after all.
Pun hence Isankillah.
@isankillah I have those doubts too. I can't believe the Reds wouldn't have used those guns if they had them. Given the damage that has been done, you would logically expect that.
But luckily I don't know everything about it and I don't want to know everything about it.
I only have one opinion and that is that I find it very sad that so many people have died on either side in a country where normally everyone always laughs. And who or what is the cause of that I leave in the middle. It breaks my heart that people are killed by whoever and in any country.
And when I sometimes read the reports and reports, I (sometimes) wonder how well the reporter knows the situation or whether something is not a little different when it is presented there.
But also look with colored glasses. Especially when you know that my girlfriend comes from the poor region of Thailand. Sometimes it's hard to see through and see through that. But I'm always open to a reply. So let's hear it.
Of course, people have to listen to a government, even though in this case it has not been democratically elected, so if you want to achieve something that is a requirement, but the Thai will undoubtedly know better how this works there when it comes to, and fill this in yourself...
The sad thing I also think is that a soldier is ordered to shoot live ammunition at his own people, and I wonder if that is really the last resort to end something like this, or vice versa, pulling a soldier out of his car and letting him to lay.
But let's just assume that tourism brings in more, so it should be over now, but it was shocking.
If your girlfriend comes from the poor regions and I think from so many farang then you know and see how hopeless life sometimes looks there.
There are some improvements when it comes to compulsory education, but even then the schools are of such a poor level of education that it adds little.
There is nothing wrong with looking through colored glasses, but you should continue to look carefully and always see through things.
Exactly IsanKillah….. It is very sad that you have to shoot your own people. No matter who or what you believe in, because it's even quite possible that you should shoot when you actually agree with them. But refusing is punishable by death? No idea.
And yes, unfortunately I know how hopeless it is. When father-in-law comes to tell me that he only gets 6000 baht for 1000 kilos of rice while I am told here in the store that next month 20 kilos will go to 40 euros because Thailand will pass on the transport, I don't dare tell him. Because I don't know what they're going to do with that information.
My wife is now in nl. She goes for the cheaper rice, and that is not the Thai one. A piece of market forces that the Thai themselves are guilty of.
Incidentally, it is not a Thai problem, but a world problem that “the market” undermines everything. Just like the coffee, cocoa and banana farmers. The situation is slightly different in the eu, because there are substantial subsidies there.
And as far as the photos are concerned, I would look at it a bit more critically. This is very easy to put together. Put a bunch of guns on the table, take a picture and say they belong to the khon deng. Entire tribes fall for this kind of propaganda. Mr. Bush was good at it too.
greetings,
Andy
The Great Reconciler?
If PM Abhisit wants reconciliation, he will have to do it differently.
Who outside his own coalition is he going to talk to?
Most other parties are by the Military? sidelined and the “Red Shirts” leaders are now in custody.
The “Good-News” shows of Panitan and Sansern are also not at all conducive to seeking rapprochement.
If, according to them, you had so many weapons in your possession, I wonder why none were used?
The statements of some ministers are also not appropriate in a situation like this.
What if the otherwise acclaimed “forensic expert” Pornthiva also gets involved in politics?
And of course violence begets violence. I totally disapprove of this, but if this situation continues we will be heading down the road of years of attacks and unrest in the south.
In a real "democracy", the person ultimately responsible is the initiator of all this useless violence. Why is Suthep always glorified?
However, I wonder who and why a hand is held above their heads?
Some people have never heard of self-respect!
Abhisit must keep the honor to himself and make his function available and that will already bring about a lot of peace.
But Rome wasn't built in a day either!
Are we still going to continue the reforms of the hated “red shirts”…?
– Free compulsory education has already been raised from 14 years to 16 years, but raising the age to 18 years is precisely blocked by the current government.
– Fair distribution of wealth? The coveted guaranteed minimum price for rice was promptly abolished.
– Stimulate economic development in North and Northeast: Those who have been in Isaan in recent years have definitely noticed the small new government buildings in the villages. They house government officials with the aim of setting up reconversion programs in the most deprived areas.
– Affordable and better healthcare for all Thais: the current government claimed for several months that the current 30 Bath healthcare is too expensive and will bring Thailand to the brink of bankruptcy.
– Favorable credit conditions for loans were already introduced under Thaksin.
In summary, you don't have to be a "Thaksin lover" to understand that he and his party understood these needs and did what others failed to do. I hope that Abhisit will actually do something for the majority of the population and, traditionally, will not only care about Bangkok and the ruling elite.