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Home » News from the Netherlands and Belgium » Holland no longer exists, it is now The Netherlands
Holland no longer exists, it is now The Netherlands
Where did you come from? I'm from Holland. Too bad. The Dutch government no longer wants that. From 1 January 2020, companies, embassies, ministries and universities may only use the official name of our country: The Netherlands.
The government wants to change the image of the Netherlands abroad. Holland actually only represents 2 provinces and that image is too limited. 25 years ago it was a choice made by the tourist industry to promote our country with 'Holland',” says a spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. “But we also present ourselves through trade and science and in many other areas. Then it is a bit strange that you only promote a small part of the Netherlands abroad, namely Holland.”
The Netherlands will receive a new international logo for this. It combines two symbols: NL and a stylized orange tulip. The logo replaces the widely used 'Tulpje Holland' of the Netherlands Bureau for Tourism and Congresses.
Source: NOS.nl nos.nl/artikel/2316869-wennen-aan-the-netherlands-want-holland-no longer exists.html
In popular parlance, however, this will take a long time before it becomes extinct. The name Holland will work in description as a country, but in designation of a person from there, I think this will not work!
At least not in some specific personal names (wink from a southern neighbor...)
In any case, a happy new year to all: Dutch, Belgians and even a / the Dutch
It must be true, I have been saying for years that I come from the Netherlands. Indeed, because Holland only refers to a part of the country. Compare the masr referring to the UK with England. Only when someone doesn't know what I mean by the Netherlands do I say Holland.
Is what you say correct? are most non-Dutch people ignorant about, ever heard a reference with something from "De Moerdijk", but not sure
I lived in North Holland during my Navy period. In Den Helder. 🙂
the former Holland is actually the current North and South Holland and a piece of Utrecht.
- https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland
- https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republiek_der_Zeven_Verenigde_Nederlanden
Gonna take a while though. Les Pays Bas, Los Paises Bajos, Belanda, Holland and Holanda, are all ingrained and then we also call ourselves Dutch. And what to do with Double Dutch and Going Dutch? But I admit, that 'Holland' urgently needs to get out.
I also always say that I come from the Netherlands, and indeed also because Holland only comprises 2 provinces. Sometimes they say aah Holland, but then I explain that the country I come from is called the Netherlands and not Holland. They are not (anymore) from Siam!. In the Philippines in particular, I often get to hear aah Neverland , Peter Pan !.
The use of the name Holland is probably much older than 25 years.
I think it's from the golden age.
Where are you from?
From the Seven United Provinces?
Probably not.
Those were seven autonomous territories and no kingdom.
The ships departed from Holland and they therefore came from Holland.
First of all, best wishes for 2020.
I also write and often say that I come from The Netherlands. I then mention that this is a small Kingdom in Europe. (A small kingdom into Europe.) I hope they will change this on my passport here it is now on Kingdom of the Netherlands. I believe that if you use the name The Netherlands, you should also do this on all passports. So issue new passports with the text Kingdom of the Netherlands. Yes and perhaps change the name Dutch.
And required to apply for a new passport within a year ( tax in disguise ha ha )
Regards Anthony
I don't think you've ever looked at your passport.
It has been on the Royal Kingdom of the Netherlands for YEARS
The song hup holland hup has been around for much longer than 25 years. I used to want to sing along in the stands with the Dutch national team in the 70s and 80s. However, if people ask me where I come from, it is Brabant and not North Brabant, Breda to be precise. So be forgiven for not using the correct county name. It is now officially a thing of the past. Let's forget about it. But, can someone explain to me why if I have to state my nationality, I have to state 'Dutch' in correct English. This often leads to confusion and questioning looks among recipients who have never heard German, which is very similar, of course. In order to prevent these misunderstandings, I have already started to state Netherlands for nationality years ago, which I think is not correct linguistically. And Pays Bas, another name that raises questions. Holland knows everyone, but is indeed technically incorrect. They 'sold' themselves well, let's say our provincial northern neighbours.
I quote: “English borrowed the word Dutch from Dutch, but at a time when we still referred to our language as German or Dietsch — probably in the late Middle Ages. If you look at Middle Dutch texts, you will hardly find the word Nederlandsch in them; the common word at that time was Duitslandsch or Dietsch, or also Nederduitsch or Nederdietsch.
Dietsch actually meant 'of the people' (or, more broadly, 'vernacular'); it is derived from the Middle Dutch word diet, which meant 'people' or 'people'. (…)”
https://onzetaal.nl/taaladvies/dutch/
In our National Anthem we also talk about German (Dietsche) blood.
Thank you for your explanation. I already suspected it would be from a distant past. We should actually adjust the English language on this point. This embarrasses us. Go and explain this to a customs or immigration officer ha ha.
As for the national anthem, I thought it had to do with William of Orange's birthplace, Dillenburg, in Germany.
NL has been known as the Netherlands for years. It also stands for the Netherlands. I have not yet come across Hl (Holland) as a country description. Well in the vernacular but yes that is nothing world strange. You know them the persevering ones who keep writing postcards abroad addressed to family in Holland. Little Holland, a country on the Zuiderzee. Also faded glory and has been baptized the IJsselmeer for some time. The use of Holland has grown because usually the famous cities can be found in the west of the Netherlands. The fact that the Netherlands is much more than Holland comes to the fore in the way that has now been put forward and is badly needed, because the other provinces are also entitled to that. Honor where credit is due. A proud Dutchman
It seems to me that in football the encouragement Holland will not disappear.
I don't think the public will chant the Netherlands.
Of course if you think carefully Holland is not the right name for the entire country, Nederland, the Netherlands would indeed be the better name.
When I lived in the Netherlands as a Briton, I always automatically answered the question “where do you live” with Holland, because Holland was an international concept abroad.
When I later lived in Germany, I noticed that many Dutch authorities make a mess of it themselves.
The mail I received from the SVB, among others, always had the French name for the Netherlands, Pays-Bas, written on the return envelope, so that I often got the question at the German Post Office, what kind of country this is now?
When they heard that it was just about the Netherlands, the official crossed out the Pays.Bas in irritation and changed it to Holland or the Niederlande.
That is why it is good that they now finally have to use only the name The Netherlands for their international Letter traffic.
And now the key question: Why does it have to be in English again? Why don't we just present ourselves, with our chests out, as the NETHERLANDS and not as The Netherlands.
Germany is not called Germany, but simply Deutschland.
It seems to me that in football the encouragement Holland will not disappear.
I don't think the public will chant the Netherlands.
It seems to me that in football the encouragement Holland, Holland will not disappear.
I don't think the public will chant Holland, Holland.
Holland whole land the Netherlands the never lands and who sjoen is Limburg and you can get greetings from Brabant
I am from Groningen sometimes living in the Netherlands and then in the province of North Brabant.
I am and will remain Groningen and will NEVER call myself Dutch or Brabander.
Have always worked worldwide and always maintained that I was NOT from Holland.
I did work there but luckily only for 4 years then I was really tired of the Dutch.
A nice explanation that I always pass on to everyone worldwide is the following
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc
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Oh just add to the whole This if you haven't watched the you tube version.
Without advertising https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc
The Royal Kingdom of the Netherlands is more than just the little country on the North Sea.
Our Caribbean part is forgotten.
Namely Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, St Maarten, Saba and St Eustatius.
Hm what legal tender do we know in the EU?/
Well now on our ABC and S Islands besides that these countries are ALSO members of the EU. Can you pay with USD there. Is funny, especially for money laundering at our large banks on the spot.
As a Brabander I can also say with absolute certainty...I am not from Holland...Fortunately, when I say Holland, most Thais say...WHAT? The Netherlands…Aaaah!. So they probably won't notice here
I always say: “I am not from Holland, but from Utrecht.” I think Holland is a waste of my native country, of which I am quite proud. I never use that name.
I find it strange that Heineken has beer in Thailand on its label Amsterdam – Holland. Mentos and others do it better.
That is certainly strange, because Heineken's head office and largest factory is located in Zoeterwoude (ZH). From there it goes to the harbor hop on the ship. But that beautiful village is not known overseas, so let's go for old-fashioned Amsterdam, (N) Holland.
Well, often in Thailand when I say I'm from “The Netherlands”, they look at me questioningly. “Holland” is what I say. “Aaahhhhh Olland yes”
And with football, Holland also sings more fun than the Netherlands.
I don't think it will be a resounding success.
Not gonna happen. There are still plenty of countries that use the name Holland. The Norwegians use Holland as a name designation and I was even addressed as Holland. But what are we worrying about? Although when I used to send a letter or something like that to Limburg or North Brabant with the address Holland, it was returned as undeliverable. Had to be Limburg or Brabant and the Netherlands. I still do since then.
And those 2 orange stripes, they say it should represent a tulip, they only cost € 300.000. Am I hearing that this looks a bit like the brown envelopes in Thailand?