Many EU member states are in favor of introducing a digital vaccination passport. German Chancellor Angela Merkel is also in favour, according to the outcome of an EU summit on the corona pandemic held yesterday. Mark Rutte does not want to make a decision yet, but has no objection to a vaccination passport for the time being.
Rutte first wants more clarity about whether someone can no longer transmit the corona virus after a vaccination. He does see that a digital vaccination passport can be useful. Belgium is less positive, fearing that a vaccination passport could lead to discrimination.
The EU countries around the Mediterranean in particular want the rapid introduction of a uniform vaccination passport, which gives citizens in all EU countries the same rights, such as the right to travel freely. The southern EU countries want a vaccination passport to be introduced before the summer.
The President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen does not know whether the day will succeed because, according to her, the technical preparation of such a vaccination certificate will take at least three months.
The EU member states Greece and Cyprus will not wait for the possible introduction of the digital vaccination passport, vaccinated tourists from Israel will soon be welcome.
Source: Nu.nl
An excellent initiative. Those who do not want to be vaccinated now know where they stand. No vaccination? Staying at home is now the motto and rightly so. I have now been adhering to the measures extremely well for almost a year. Why should it take longer because some refuse to be vaccinated for (drug) reasons? That they themselves bear the consequences of their choice.
It's come a long way. A vaccination passport has a stigmatizing effect. There are several reasons why people do not want to get vaccinated. And some of those reasons are preferred not to be published. What kind of herd mentality are being imposed on the common citizen? Incredible.
A vaccination was already mandatory for certain countries, otherwise you wouldn't get in.
Only Rutte is transverse again and must first be investigated again if we have to wait for that
we can never leave. Don't see the problem already have a vaccination passport.
We would also like to see our family.
for which countries is a vaccination already mandatory? I've never heard of this.
Too many to list them all
Yellow fever
Many countries outside the European Union require tourists to be vaccinated against certain tropical diseases. If you get vaccinated, you will receive a vaccination booklet, the 'International proof of vaccination'
Dear Roger, why herd mentality? That's what the vaccine is all about. Only that is now called herd immunity. There will be more viruses and more pandemics coming our way. When it comes to not vaccinating for reasons that cannot be published, it is important to sit on a desert island.
Dear Daniel,
I am still quite young in age. I don't see vaccination for myself because the vaccine has been pushed through. No one knows what the ultimate consequences may be in x number of years. I'd rather watch it then. I think it's wrong that I wouldn't be allowed to go anywhere, because otherwise I would be forced to take something I don't know the consequences of.
Then let them say that the vaccinated no longer have to be quarantined and the unvaccinated do.
Still someone with common sense.
I think everyone can freely decide what happens to his/her body?
Those who choose to get vaccinated, OK I understand that.
Those who choose not to get vaccinated apparently have no understanding for that, even worse, they get a stamp on their forehead and will be subjected to all kinds of restrictions by means of an imposed vaccination passport.
Is this in line with human rights, and with our constitution? Are we really going to start with 'discrimination on the basis of vaccination' here? I think this could set a nice precedent. Legally, one is on thin ice…
At the end of the day, when the majority is vaccinated, there will be herd immunity among the population and this passport will no longer be of any use. And as long as the vaccination process is not finished (and this can take a very long time), the unvaccinated will be discriminated against.
What talk of discrimination! You are completely free to choose whether or not to vaccinate. However, all choices in this life have consequences.
For many decades, countries have required certain vaccinations – for example smallpox, TB, yellow fever, cholera, hepatitis – to be admitted. A Covid vaccination requirement is not a new phenomenon. It is not a 'human right' to be unconditionally admitted to any country you would like to go to.
You don't seem to understand what discrimination means.
If I choose not to get vaccinated (I'm not saying this is my choice) I no longer have the same rights as someone who has been vaccinated. Let this be the very definition of discrimination.
“Discrimination restricts the opportunities for development of those affected, such as participation in public life” (cfr. Wikipedia)
Dear Michel, you are using the definition wrong. Discrimination limits whoever it happens to, is your reasoning. But being unvaccinated is what someone consciously chooses, and the unpleasant consequences of this can be foreseen a mile away.
In your line of reasoning, not being allowed to drive because you refuse to get a driver's license is also discrimination?
Dear Roger, you say it yourself: at the end of the ride when the majority has been vaccinated, there will be herd immunity among the population, the vaccine passport will no longer be useful and will be abolished because it is unnecessary. And who benefits from this over the back resp. the upper arm of others? Right, those who don't get vaccinated because they think they know better than scientists. All those who think they are not well off with a vaccine should take a look in their bathroom cabinet to see what medicines they have there. Read all those leaflets and then come and tell us why those medicines are and a vaccine is not.
Jannus,
To date, there is no scientist who would put his hand in the fire by claiming what the possible long-term consequences are after getting your injection(s). Even worse, several general practitioners (in Belgium and the Netherlands) have already expressed their concerns about this matter. Of course, it is precisely these doctors who have been whistled back by their respective governments.
I don't think anyone has the right to rebuke me if I chose not to get vaccinated. As I clearly stated above, I have every respect for the people who get vaccinated.
I note with great regret that by the fact that I am suspicious of my vaccine, you immediately brand me as a profiteer. Mutual respect seems to be lacking here.
A while ago a signal was sent to the world that the vaccination program would only be successful if more than 70% would be vaccinated. Now it appears that this will be an extremely difficult task, precisely because there are many people with doubts. Who do you think is to blame here? The 'non believers'? If the government came out with clear information, there would be a lot less suspicion. And that's where the shoe pinches ... until now there is no scientific certainty that the vaccine is safe. Then the solution is quickly found, we are going to introduce a vaccination passport. Those who don't want a vaccine, that's their choice, then we will deprive them of some privileges.
Well Jannus, with a lot of respect I wish everyone their vaccine. So grant me the privilege of benefiting from herd immunity at the end of the ride.
Thanks in advance for your understanding.
There is no reason at all to assume that governments, physicians and scientists label a vaccine as unsafe without a probability bordering on certainty. On the contrary. If humanity is allowed to have faith and trust in its institutions, it is that part that lives in nEurope. https://www.cbg-meb.nl/actueel/nieuws/2020/12/02/column-over-medicijnen-hoe-veilig-zijn-de-coronavaccins
That there are GPs who claim the opposite, that's for sure. But ask them how and why and they don't give an argument, only to say that the vaccine has been developed quickly and will be delivered even faster. How those processes came about eludes them. The VRT recently had a doctor speak in De Zevende Dag who did not get any further than the statement that it was not good. The why was left out. Perhaps a colleague of Dr. Oetker.
But only if everyone has had the chance to get a vaccination.
I too can't wait to go back to Thailand (without quarantine), but am now being punished because I have always lived a healthy life, show no defects and unfortunately I am not yet 60.
Daniel,
You say it yourself, you've been working for more than a year now to keep to all the rules. Well I am too. Who is responsible for not getting the virus under control? All those fat egoists who flout all the rules at all times.
I would love to visit my family in Belgium but know very well that this is not a good idea at the moment. That's the way it is and I totally understand that.
We have all been punished. The virus can be perfectly controlled if the government closes everything for a few months. A very strict lockdown (no parties - no travel - all borders closed) and the problem is solved. But also in all other countries.
Our politicians have lost their way and now suddenly have the miracle solution. Their proposed quota for voluntarily vaccinating their population appears not to be feasible. Then they will force everyone to be vaccinated under gentle pressure. If you don't want this, absolutely no problem, you won't get a vaccination passport and they will restrict you in a number of freedoms. Anyone who doesn't want to hear... has to feel. I recently read a comment about such a strategy: “We are the new Uighurs of the West.”
Let it be very clear, I no longer want to be punished for my free choice whether or not to want a vaccine. Your statement of “that they themselves bear the consequences of their choice”, well I think that's mine. Just as you have the freedom to get vaccinated, those who think differently have the same freedom not to want this. You have no right to deprive me of that choice. The fault is not mine, but as said above, the fault lies with all those who do not tolerate rules.
Personally I would find such a passport very good, although I do expect that this freedom, which the passport promises, will last for a while.
Belgium has thought up because of the discriminatory effect, Rutte first wants to be sure whether there are no more infections of people who have already been vaccinated, and Merkel, who is in favor, cannot make a promise because first 3% of Germans, just like in most EU countries first had a vaccination.
In short, 27 EU states, which, just like with the many slow vaccine orders, like to have their say, once again show that in combating a pandemic and its consequences, the EU is very heavy on our feet.
With all the negative messages of incomprehension why the British wanted a Brexit, they have certainly been right in terms of efficient pandemic control and a much faster vaccination policy.
The president of the European Commission Madam Ursela von der Leyen thinks that it takes at least 3 months to develop a vaccination booklet, well that's how the EU works; slow, slow and expensive.
I already have 2 vaccination booklets at home (International proof of vaccination). I ordered them from Sdu Uitgevers, Maanweg 174, 2516 AB The Hague.
This yellow vaccination passport booklet of the Kingdom of the Netherlands was published in collaboration by the Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport.
Or the stamps. yet to be legalized probably depends on Thailand's requirements.
It will certainly take months in Belgium before the vaccines are put in place. So the vaccination passport can also wait a while.
What I especially notice is that this is a yes-no discussion between the pros and cons.
As long as not everyone is vaccinated, a restriction imposed by such a passport is a disadvantage for those who (whether or not by choice) have not yet received a vaccine. You can't get in between that.
Do I think this passport is a good initiative? Well, that choice is personal and I'm going to keep it to myself to avoid further discussions. The passport should come out at the earliest when everyone has had the chance to get a vaccine. The latter is also the concern of a number of politicians in certain countries and the EU.