Smoking, who still has guts?
If you still have the guts to dare to smoke, you should go in Thailand really don't look at the packaging of a pack of cigarettes. The country's government has introduced a policy of discouragement that does not lie.
The packaging of a pack of cigarettes not only contains the warning that smoking is harmful to health, but the tobacco industry has also been obliged to include illustrations that do not lie with the prescribed text.
The most horrific depictions of diseases that a smoker can contract are extensively depicted. Pictures of affected lungs, someone gasping for breath with a stoma in the trachea and a lot more bloody colorful pictures to the same effect make you shiver.
Potency
If you still have doubts and want to ignore the gory pictures and accompanying warnings, they have another warning in store. Men beware: smoking is fatal for potency. Have you already experienced a Thai beauty asking the question: “Do you smoke?”.
If that question comes up, count on your ten fingers that she doesn't see anything in you at all if the question is answered in the affirmative. After all, a descendant is a kind of retirement provision for the lady in question.
Little is known about how this story plays out among smoking women, but one thing is certain, non-smokers are less fond of smoking women. According to an extensive study by Professor André Lejeune of the University of Vallerond, a smoking lady is less attractive to non-smokers.
The smoking ban hotels and restaurants is now also an official fact in Thailand.
2 years ago a general smoking ban suddenly came into force in Thailand, even in the beer bars no ashtrays were placed on the bar anymore.
At that time it was not clear to everyone where the smoking ban did or did not apply.
In most bars there was a little separate table with an ashtray where you could smoke a cigarette.
The fines were tough, 20000 baht for the owner of the establishment and 2000 for the perpetrator.
is all somewhat weakened again, I think that most tourists were not aware of this at all, and puffed everywhere.
I am a smoker myself, but when I eat I always try to find a smoke-free place, it smells very bad when I eat.
Also on the packages of heavy van nelle that I buy in Pattaya are discouraging texts and images of smoked lungs and things like that
Once a smoking lady said to me: “You know, non-smokers taste so bland”… On the other hand, I read somewhere: “Kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtray”.
This afternoon I smoked an excellent cigar on the terrace of Jos Klunder in Hua Hin!
I've known that licking an ashtray in Dutch for years.
My girlfriend doesn't think it's appropriate for a lady to smoke, and I actually noticed that I don't think the Thai smoke much, just go to Arab countries and compare.
Unfortunately, I am a smoker myself and my mother-in-law may regularly send tobacco to the Isaan. And as for that cigar, you bought it in Thailand
I believe a pack of Malboro now costs 60 baht, so that's an expensive hobby for the average Thai.
In the Isaan or in Loei I have never actually seen women or girls smoking, the men did, and then from their home-grown tobacco leaves.
In Pattaya you see a lot of younger beer bar girls walking with a cigarette in their head, I think it's a bit tough.
Don't think it's a sight when I see a girl like that on the street with a cigarette, and especially when one is playing pool with a butt in the corner of the mouth.
Again I'm a smoker myself, but always try to take other people into account, my girlfriend doesn't smoke and thinks it stinks, so I sit outside with my shaggie.
Marlboro now costs 78 baht.
pack of rolling tobacco (50 grams it is certain) costs in the isaan 10 thb pack of rolling paper without adhesive edge 2
What should I imagine for that 10 bath?, does that still taste like something
I pay 220 baht for a pack of heavy rolling tobacco
Great to smoke, there is enough nicotine in the isaan, they sometimes have complete garbage bags for sale on the markets with tobacco from light to heavy. In prachuap khiri khan they sell native tobacco with a black cat on it, you can also bark well. slightly more expensive
Only the rolling paper with adhesive edge is not standard, so you buy the Thai rolling paper and roll it with your hands.
you can also bark well………whahaha great!
In some restaurants you can still smoke (open air restaurants) because the police have been bribed.
The pictures on the packages are very laughable. You can see a very black foot that is totally rotten where the flip flop is between the big and 2nd toe, as if that's from smoking!
I have a nice stainless steel box around my pack of butts, so they don't get damaged and I don't see the photos either 🙂 I always buy a lot of tax-free cigarettes in Dubai, Bkk, Hong Kong because tax-free tastes best to me.
It is of course something for Thailand again. A country where they don't give a damn
the environment and then such strict anti-smoking laws. Spend the day walking around Bangkok
or Chiang Mai has the same effect as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day.
Lung cancer is the number 1 disease in Thailand.
Most of those people have never touched a cigarette.
Cor.
Experts would respond to this as follows, I quote from some standard documentation on addiction: Denial is often the first step for an addict to maintain their addiction. An addict will be very defensive by saying it's less bad than someone says. When denial is not an option, the addict often blames his environment for the problem. It's certainly not his or her fault, and the addict gives himself an excuse to use in the process.” 😉
Smoking is a habit that is slowly dying out internationally. More and more countries are banning smoking in public buildings, offices and catering establishments. That Dutch smokers have so much trouble with that, well, they just don't like rules. Perhaps the indignation and lax monitoring of compliance with rules in the Netherlands will cause a delay, but in the future smoking will increasingly be regarded by everyone as a somewhat primitive habit, which is only widely followed in less developed countries. You can already see that in the USA, for example, the forerunner of making smoke-free… smokers are looked at a bit with the neck there, and have immediately left their mark. It is not for nothing that most tobacco brands are now active in fashion, they can already see the storm coming, but they want to exploit a brand that has invested a lot in it as much as possible.
Smoking a primitive habit. Nice description. Unfortunately, my wife sometimes smokes, sometimes outside the door in the garden, so that the child is not raised with it. And no “not the taste of an ashtray”. Brushing your teeth and rinsing your mouth is very simple.
Smoking around others is very irritating, especially in a restaurant, all my life I have been battling second-hand smoke.
Fortunately, most restaurants (inside) in Thailand are now smoke-free, and almost everyone adheres to that. Also more and more public spaces. So it's going in the right direction for me.
Women here in the Isaan are indeed not so likely to smoke while walking on the street. But as soon as they sit comfortably in their place, the cigarette turns on just as often as with "us".
Smoking will slowly die out? An illusion, Robert, you and I certainly don't experience that anymore. Call it primitive, just look at me with the neck and leave my mark, but I won't let anyone take away the pleasure of a good cigar now and then.
I do add that you should take the environment into account when smoking. I will not light a cigar in restaurants, etc. and where a smoking ban applies, I will also respect that. I am also not someone who, after a 12-hour flight from the Netherlands, dives into such a smoking room at the airport immediately upon arrival.
The smoking ban in Thailand is of course a farce. Look at Cor van Kampen's reaction, who is absolutely right. Do something about the air pollution in big cities and the environment will improve faster than a smoking ban.
In most developed countries, tobacco use has been falling since the late 60s/early 70s. Women are slightly behind the men's curve. There are no signs that this trend will reverse in the future. There will always be a core of smokers left. By the way, I'm not attacking you personally Bert, if I'm talking about staring and stamping, I'm just describing the situation in the USA. Some companies there don't even hire smokers.
Many smokers say they are considerate of others. I see that more as a political comment, because 'taking into account' is almost always based on the reality and perception of the smoker and not that of the non-smoker. Typical example of a reality and perception difference: man comes to doctor with overweight. "What do you usually eat?" asks the doctor. '5 frikandellen in a day', says the man. "No wonder, you do absolutely nothing to lose weight and you have no willpower," the doctor replies. "You don't know what you're talking about," says the man. 'I used to eat 12 frikandellen a day'.
Cor's story (walking in the city for a day is just as bad as a pack of cigarettes) is of course nonsense, otherwise 'living in the city' would have been included in the life insurance premiums 😉 In addition, people try to discourage smoking with the aim of people healthier lives, not to improve the environment as you assume in the last sentence of your argument.
May I add that I myself find cigar and pipe smelling very nice. But that wasn't the point here.
Cor's story about passive smoking is of course not a nonsense story.
It is apparently socially accepted that we all affect the living environment, especially in cities, with exhaust fumes, particulate matter, etc.
However, getting the car out of the city has slightly different consequences than banning the smoker in some places…….
Money (= economy) always beats public health.
Or they try to keep the risks low on paper.
However, if it goes wrong, then it also hits well (I am now referring to Fukushima and Chernobyl)
Dear Bert and others. It's not smokers like me that's not about solving environmental, air pollution problems in the big cities, but for the simple reason that I find it annoying (and my quality of life is more than limited by illness from smoke) to be in the smoke of having to sit with someone else and not liking my food in a restaurant with smokers.
So smoking in a place where others are not bothered by it is fine. Enjoy it. I like to breathe. Many people, like me, welcome a ban on smoking in restaurants and public places. In my house there is also a smoking ban in the bedroom as well as in my car.
Here in Nongkhai, by the way, on the market, you can get bales of tobacco in various flavors for next to nothing. According to my friends, the slightly heavier types taste fine, but here too the problem is not getting good sticky floors. Tax free shop laos, Vientiane offers the solution.
Agree with Robert that the comment "I am considerate of others" is indeed from the smoker's point of view. For a non-smoker, a smoker always infringes on his quality of life, wherever he is. Just smoke at home, then your visitors can stay away if they don't feel like second-hand smoke.
prachuap khiri khan took you a long way to buy rolling papers in laos, but you can often buy the Dutch rolling papers separately in larger places in thailand
The trouble with those rolling papers with an adhesive edge is that they all stick together due to the humidity. In prachuap I see the fishermen smoking with palm leaf as flux pure nature you can say, same as a poisonous snake bites you pure nature, never mind
I am now 18 years out of it and should have done it 18 years earlier what a dirty habit it is. Now I can smell what it's like to be a smoker you can even smell them outside on the street as you walk by. But ok, everyone has to know for themselves, after all, getting lung cancer is also a right.
When Columbus set foot in what is now Cuba in 1492, he saw Indians smoking rolled leaves through their noses. The cradle of smoking. And I can still enjoy a nice long filler, accompanied by a glass of old rum. Unfortunately, no one takes the time for that nowadays in this fast-paced world.
The "annoying bickering" wouldn't be there if one would take the other into account. If the freedom to smoke means the other person's freedom to breathe, you get "haggling"
Smoking and other fun addictions enjoy it in your own environment.
By the way, I enjoy those glass cages in airports where a bunch of tightly packed addicts perish in their own smoke. Beautiful face, how sad can you be.
Yes, those glass cages are indeed a bizarre sight. Siam Ocean World is nothing like it. I have a bit of an idea of what it must smell like in there, sometimes someone rolls out of a cage like that as I walk by. How sane people can voluntarily go in there is a complete mystery to me.
At Frankfurt, the glass cages are even sponsored by several cigarette brands.
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I smoke myself. But if I am somewhere that is not allowed to smoke I have no problem with it. Not even when the smoking ban was introduced. It only made me smoke less because I didn't feel like standing outside
I visit friends who don't smoke every week, and in those 2 to 3 hours that I'm there I don't smoke either. But as soon as I'm outside I'll light another cigarette. Dom huh?
Before boarding a plane I quickly smoke another cigarette because I know I won't be able to smoke for the next 10 hours. My experience is that I feel like a cigarette during the last few hours of the flight. As soon as I arrived at BKK I first went to that smoking room. What a horrible stench! Very stupid but then I would light up a butt and then have something like “gadsie, did I feel like this? ”
Later I walked right past these glass cages, because otherwise I would have to wait too long at immigration, and then lit my first cigarette before I got into the car.
Finland has plans to make the entire country smoke-free.
Anti-smoke commands will then appear.
If you then secretly light up a smoke at home on the toilet, you have a chance of a police raid and you will be taken away in handcuffs.
So it's not that far yet, but there are plans.
it's getting crazier in the world with meddling.
It's that I'm already in Thailand, otherwise I would emigrate to Finland.
Ferdinand .good luck in Finland, if you think it will be all rosy there because there are plans to clear the whole country of smoke. Something like this has also been thought of in Belgium, but as I wrote on another blog, BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, should we all have the same mentality (thought)? Smoking, Drinking, etc are all addictions that you want yourself.
Gr Sven