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Home » Reader question » Are there people in Thailand who keep goats commercially?
Dear readers,
In the south of Phetchabun province we have 5 rai of agricultural land. We now grow corn here. The profit is marginal (=0) due to the investment and hiring of people for harvesting.
Now I see people around here keeping goats and cows on a small scale. Cows are a bit too big for me and too expensive to buy, goats are more affordable. Recently we happened to speak to a lady who also kept goats for meat consumption and still got a nice yield from it. If you put 100.000 baht in you can get 300.000 baht out. Is it true….?
Are there people in Thailand who keep goats in a more commercial way? What are your experiences? What is needed? Housing, food, vet, vaccinations? Where to buy/sell goats? Which breed for meat consumption etc?
Of course I can find things on the internet, but practical experiences in Thailand are welcome.
Regards,
Jan
A family member has about 60 goats and they are quite easy to keep. Now that they have given birth for the first time, they then have 2 youngsters every year and they do well on chopped maize plants and Leuceana branches, among other things. https://www.feedipedia.org/node/282
You could of course also grow these two types and possibly some other fast-growing crops on your own land so that you do not have to incur large costs for food, but then this should be available in sufficient quantities throughout the year.
From a commercial point of view, I think there is more future in meat goats such as the Boer goat. https://www.levendehave.nl/dierenwikis/geiten/boergeit
Such a goat is quite expensive and that is why you see half-blood goats here.
Many Thai people don't seem to like the smell of the butchered meat but there seems to be an increasing demand from the Muslim population like in Bangkok and from China in general.
You will of course achieve the best yield by working with the right parties and if it is a success then everyone will spontaneously switch to this cultivation, which will reduce the margin again.
Sometimes keeping small-scale is therefore more sensible and if it is possible to specialize in breeding sets of 7. A half-blood Boer goat and 6 females was about 30000 -35000 baht a few years ago.
Keep in mind that there are still costs for vaccination, but a vet can tell you more about that.
In addition, an above-ground goat house must of course be built so that they can get through the night safely, hygienically, high and dry. There are many constructions to come up with, but in the link a start https://learnnaturalfarming.com/how-to-build-a-goat-house/
I'd love to see the pictures if you've decided to do it.
Thank you for your elaborated answer
Dear Jan,
Can't give you a tip about goats in terms of yield.
Personally, I would choose to keep a few organic pigs, let them run free around your land, food, corn, herbs, chestnuts and acorns, then you have a delicatessen.
Your land will be plowed for free and oxygen will be added again.
Look at the black pigs in Spain.
Success.
A relative of mine has about 60 goats since last year and can tell you the following about it:
Goats are fairly easy to keep and the better the food and hygiene the better the yield. They eat, among other things, chopped maize plants and Leucaena https://www.feedipedia.org/node/282
To save costs, you could consider growing these two species yourself, supplemented with some other fast-growing trees.
In terms of breed, I think a Boer goat is the best option as it can contain a lot of meat. The Boer goat in Thailand is often a half-blood since a thoroughbred is quite expensive. In my opinion, this is semi-commercially feasible if the comparison is made with the current yield of maize.
Many Thai people seem to find the smell of the slaughtered meat too strong, but the Muslims and the Chinese in general would have less objection to this.
If you know how to organize it well, you can earn some money, even though you also have to vaccinate them, but far from the latter a vet can help you better.
In addition to the investment of a goat population, you will also have to take into account the fence and an above-ground night shelter so that they can spend the night safely and high and dry.
During the day it can then serve as a shady spot.
The biggest drawback here is that if something becomes popular to grow or grow, it will be immediately copied and the yield will go down again, but I don't think it's that far yet.
It is worth considering to specialize in, for example, the cultivation of sets of, say, 7 pieces. A half-breed Boer goat and 7 females. With the first pregnancy they get one offspring and with the next there are 2 or more at a time. Intensive breeding can then produce about 4 offspring per year and the question is whether you should want that https://www.animalrights.nl/stop-de-slacht/geiten
Depending on the weight and the buck, such a set can quickly be between 30-35 thousand baht.
You can also consider dairy goats, but that is more work but also quite profitable https://www.bangkokpost.com/lifestyle/social-and-lifestyle/1068964/getting-their-goat
If you have made the choice, I would like to see the photos and the experiences.
Have you ever eaten goat meat yourself? Do you know people in your neighborhood who like this and eat it a lot? Personally, before I moved to Thailand, I only knew Zaireans who are crazy about it, grilled with a spicy sauce. Not as a main course, but rather a good snack with a pint or glass of wine. And really tasty, but a bit tough. The meat has a smell as if it is a bit over time, although fresh. But durian or chicory also have their scent and many love it, so why not. Now here in Isaan I don't know anyone who breeds, sells or eats goat. Not seen anywhere on a menu as a delicacy (not even in Europe, by the way). But maybe a gap in the market. Sheep seems to me personally a more tender alternative. Good luck.
Tastiest indo sate is sate kambing, goat sate
Of course you MUST also pay attention to the buck, otherwise you will get inbred.
That's what I once heard from someone with goats.
I don't know how JohnnyBG's family does that?
They have a number of bucks, but I do not suspect that there is a specific breeding program.
The sale of the young goats is rather seen as a supplement to the income since it is only done on the side.
In terms of meat, it will have a special taste, I think it takes some getting used to.
If tough, you can let the meat simmer naturally, just like with a cow's breast steak.
Faster and that is my favorite is with the pressure cooker, then it is nice and tender within an hour.
Now I actually once saw a pressure cooker for sale in Hatyai, Thai indignant what it was.
Was rare there was only 1 of them.
In the deepest Islamic south where I live, the goats just roam the streets and graze in garbage cans. I also once got to taste a goat burger and drink milk.
Perhaps there are opportunities for commercial goat farming in the provinces of Pattani and Narathiwat.
If you want to eat goat meat in Bangkok or elsewhere, you go to the Islam butcher.
There are always Islam butchers with beef on the fresh markets, they also know where you can get the goat meat
Ate 'kkao mok phaea' this week, yellow rice with goat meat…
Goat meat, especially the rib carbonades taste great.
Nothing tough.
Have you ever eaten it in a small restaurant on Lanzerote.
Just ask in the countryside. As Jan writes in goat farming “If you put 100.000 baht in you can get 300.000 baht out”, this also applies to cows. You buy a cow for 10.000 if it is young and after 1 year the value can rise to 30.000. A cow doesn't run in all directions like a goat does, so you don't need a fence. And a goat eats a lot so you have to take care of that and a cow eats what is green and that can be found everywhere, even outside your own plot. So some food is easier for a cow to maintain because she looks for it all herself.