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Home » Reader question » Reader question: What is the usual pocket money for my Thai girlfriend?
Dear readers,
I moved to Thailand in 2009. I live in the north of Thailand in peace. 11 months ago I met my girlfriend. She has been living with me for 10 months now. She gets 12.000 baht pocket money from me every month. We're arguing about that now.
Because she says that other friends of hers who are with a falang get more pocket money. According to her 15.000 to 20.000 baht per month. Can this be correct? I think 12.000 is enough but she says it's too little. I pay for everything else and also the groceries.
What I want to know is what other falang give their girlfriend every month.
Best regards,
Chose
Children know the trick: You say that your friends get more pocket money to blackmail your parents. My mom didn't fall for it. He said: So, have you looked in their wallets?
How much pocket money should you give your girlfriend? Just as much as you can spare. Don't argue about it. That's it. End of discussion.
Maybe you should send dr to work, she can earn her own money! She will probably earn 8000 bht plus you 12000 bht. Does she have 20000 bht. Am almost convinced she won't do this.
Sounds to me a bit like she's with you for your money.
I would tell her to get a job anyway (and tell her that all the Thai farang friends you know have a job too). And then don't give pocket money at all!
To me, 12.000 baht seems like a lot for pocket money anyway if she doesn't have to contribute anything else to the household.
By the way, I've heard that trick many times, everything is compared to someone who has it better, someone who has it worse is forgotten for the sake of convenience.
Seems like a classic case of someone who thinks money is more important than…. just fill in.
What could also play a role here is the “status accumulation situation”, which means: friend 1 gets 1000 baht pocket money, friend 2 gets 500 baht pocket money but to get her social status to an acceptable level she tells everyone then her pocket money 1500 baht is. So now you can guess how much pocket money girlfriend 3 gets (even if she doesn't get anything at all...)
Also once had a girlfriend / wife from Thailand. Built a house bought a car gave 20000 bht pocket money paid all fixed costs. But no, it was never enough for the lady. Then there came a moment when I thought why are you with me now. For her status with friends? For her status with family? I finally came to the conclusion that she was not with me for love but for status.
The attitude of the girlfriend gives the impression – at least to me – that she sees it as a job and therefore a source of income. Nothing wrong with that as long as you can both live with that, but whether that also makes you happy in the longer term is the question………..
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You are supposed to answer the reader's question. This is a monthly contribution. No opinion is asked about the asker's girlfriend.
Please no moralistic speculations. They are not posted.
My wife has access to my debit card and I get pocket money.
It is important to know that status is considered very important. Thai girls stir each other up and make it a competition to see who gets the most from their farrang. First thing they ask each other, what does he give you every month.
I think 12000 bath is a very nice amount and a good conversation about it with your girlfriend. Furthermore, they all seek security because many have already been cheated by the farrang. Goes home and after 1 or 2 times he stops giving pocket money.
That is also the subject of conversation between the girls.
I have been living with my Thai partner for 6 years, paying all fixed costs, health insurance, travel insurance, all living expenses, clothes, travel, everything.
I also give 10.000 baht pocket money, of which 2000 baht goes to his parents, 2000 baht in his wallet, and 6000 baht he puts in his bank every month, sometimes less if he has more expenses, such as a birthday present for me. I pay for his friends.
We live in Pattaya which is a lot more expensive than in the north.
And his allowance is more than sufficient. We never argue about money. He never complains, he works part-time for a low salary, which is a perk for him.
Your 12.000 baht a month is more than enough, otherwise she will just look for a job…
I've been living with my wife for two years now and don't give her anything.
We just pay the bills together (as I was used to doing in Ndferland with my ex-wife) and we don't put salt on all the snails like: yesterday I paid for the groceries so now it's your turn...... ….
The normal wage is about 9000 baht per month. That has a waitress, saleswoman. The normal professions. There are professions for less per month. If she doesn't work and gets 12.000 baht a month, madam can't complain. But yes, it is ………..never enough. Beware of exploitation. The neighbor's grass is always greener. Be consistent. Whatever their culture, with all due respect, you are not an ATM machine, or the general manager of Bangkok Airways. Courage.
hai chose, 12.000 bath is more than enough. my future wife also earns this monthly and she pays everything from that. okay she lives in the isaan. think she is a bit lazy. want you give her a month's wages, while you pay everything. so don't step in.
Koos, I pay her 10.000 Baht a month, which goes to her parents. When she is here in the Netherlands she gets nothing else, if she does a small job for me I give her 10 € P u. When she is in Thailand she gets 10.000 baht pocket money per month
Koge
I have spoken to many Thai girls who have a foreign sponsor. Usually they want at least 20.000 baht per month, sometimes they even received 50.000 per month. You got less than 20.000 from a Cheap Charly, I heard over and over.
We farang make a fallacy and compare our contribution with what a Thai can earn if she works, then we usually think of 'ordinary' jobs such as in a factory, shop or the like. The money-hungry girls compare our contribution with what they can earn with short times and long times, which are amounts that can amount to about 100.000 a month, even more if they look good.
I don't give my girlfriend anything because she earns her own money as a Project Manager at a company in Bangkok. I don't want money from her either because I'm too proud for that. A friend who holds up her hand and complains it's not enough wouldn't stay with me for long.
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my girlfriend i send monthly 10.000 thai bth.
she is more than happy about that.
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Fortunately, there are also Thai women who are too proud to ask for money.
My Thai partner has received a prepaid credit card from me after a relationship of 1 year,
with a starting amount of 100000 bath. Now another year has passed and there is no bath from the card.
She knows very well that we have to save to realize our Thai dreams. Only if we both work hard will they succeed and she knows it. Neither of us were born rich, they were born in poverty with simple luck.
But by working hard together and not doing crazy things we will get there.
A good heart is more important than money in the account! (my friend's statement)
on average, a thai earns 8000 TO 10000 BAHT PER MONTH; i give ABOUT 8500 baht a month and that is definitely enough. so if she wants more, well that's for you to decide !! Greetings
I also give 10.000 a month, and she is very happy with it.
She also supplements it with work, nothing wrong with that.
My girlfriend (now wife) has visited the Netherlands and therefore knows what my costs are here.
She is also looking forward to living here, and understands that all this will also cost a pretty penny.
she is happy with what she has!
OK, she also listens to the stories of other Thai ladies, but she doesn't care about this and then says that real love cannot be paid for, not on either side.
then many ladies drip off again!
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A more nuanced note: In Thai culture, children are responsible for their parents' pensions. That responsibility weighs heavily on the, usually small, shoulders of the girls. It controls their lives; they know that their parents will die of starvation if they don't give money. (This especially applies to the poverty-stricken families in Isaan) If you take such a girl as your girlfriend as a farang, you don't just take the lusts (a good cook, a massage every day, someone who wants to take care of you and a, usually, nice bed buddy) but also the burden (care for her family).
I never hear anyone complain about that except Dutch men! We are known for our stinginess. And yes, there are of course many girls who are only interested in cheating men out of as much money as possible, but if that is the case with you, you should ask yourself whether you have made such a wise choice! There are plenty of sweet and dedicated girls.
Money is very important to my girlfriend because in the past they often did not have enough money as a family to even buy rice: a tough childhood trauma that you can only/must understand.
I used to give her 50.000 baht a month and she still thanks me for that every day.
At one point I couldn't do that anymore because I lost my job.
I didn't even have money to pay the rent. Without another word (let alone a complaint)
she started working on making dirt and that allowed us to bridge the 2 lean years.
Fortunately, the situation has improved and I have enough money for both of us again. In short: YES, money is very important, but if you make a good choice you also get a lot of love and attention in return.
But then stay far away from the money sharks who are indeed many. Stupid if you choose a shark like that.
So look at yourself first and understand the culture,
Allowance? Do you have a partner or a child at home I would think? I have a job and so does my girlfriend. That seems to me to be a fairly normal situation for non-retired people. We share debit cards. We live in the Netherlands. The fixed costs and other major expenses are deducted from my full-time salary. Groceries often from her salary. Nice things go off the bill what suits best. So we occasionally use each other's card. Sometimes she sends some money to her mother, no craziness such as horror stories that the whole family gets a motorbike or something… Of course money also goes to the savings account, if it suits my girlfriend deposits “her” money into “my” savings account, but actually So it's all our collective money.
When she worked full-time she received more than 20.000 baht a month. Many Thais have to make do with less, the work at the bottom of the social ladder is roughly somewhere around 9 thousand baht per month (of course it differs depending on the job, location, etc. Can be a few thousand less or a little more). When my girlfriend came here she said that they preferred not to work with Thai, one reason was that she was indeed afraid of this kind of childish gossip and boasting “I get this and that from my boyfriend, blabla nice puhhh”.
The above is to give an impression of how we do it, add the feedback from others and then see how this fits within your own situation. If you choose pocket money because it makes you feel good, you should do so. Maybe you don't want your girlfriend to work and she doesn't want to either, then that decision is easy. I would be very happy with someone who gave me a very minimum monthly income plus fixed costs as pocket money. How much pocket money should you give now? Then give as much as you can and want to spare. So do what you feel comfortable with. If necessary, ask yourself “would I also do this in the Netherlands?” if you still can't make a choice.
In my opinion, more than enough!
When you consider that there are many who have to work for much less money in the month!
For them it is never enough, they always want more. I am sure that 12.000 Bath is more than enough, otherwise they will have to go to work.
Remember if you give more you can't go back they are tricks they are full of.
believe me .
12000 Baht is actually too much. You give her more than someone who goes to work in the North. The more you give, the more your relationship is based on money. Then you start to doubt more and more whether your partner stays with you for the convenience of the money or for you.
I have been married to an Asian woman for 24 years. About 10 months into our marriage, my wife asked for a gold chain, as her friend had bought one too. I explained that this was not an appropriate time as we were looking to buy a house. Three weeks later she heard that her friend (with a gold chain) had no money to buy milk powder for her baby.
Since then, she has never asked for a gold chain again. Our house is paid off, we have savings, we travel at least once a year, our daughter can study, and we both have a car out of necessity. She is proud that we have made it this far, although I still keep quite a tight rein. She realizes that we are looking forward to a good old age, if our health allows us to do so. A number of her friends are still struggling financially.
Asians live in the moment. We often live with a vision of the future. They live happier in the present. We are more reserved. They count on family and friends to support them when times get tough financially.
Your partner will have to make a choice.
And then you will know if it is a suitable partner.
Success and strength.
I hope you manage to make her understand.
Dear Koos,
I live in Pattaya and my girlfriend gets 9000 bath every month.
She is also not the type of lady who constantly asks for clothes, beauty care products… and so on.
She is more than satisfied with this monthly amount.
All the more reason because she also knows that most of them have to work 12 hours a month for that sum, with 2 days off in the month.
You live in the North and therefore your girlfriend can do much more with 12.000 baht a month.
But of course it is the farangs who are crazy enough to pay 10,20,30,40,50 thousand baht/month monthly, who are killing everything here.
Not to mention those who buy properties in the name of their Thai girlfriend.
So dear Koos, leave the money tap open at a moderate level.
Greetings, Gino.
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hey honestly I don't understand that, the question is do you have a girlfriend out of mutual love, or do you pay a working woman??
I feel the same way as Chris above, I have been living together for 5 years and don't give anything, we share most of it except house rent and electricity and so on..
both are going to work for our lives
how many Thai women give pocket money to their farang love?? I will then stop working, hire 12.000 and complain that it is too little.
So I also proposed this once, then it remained quiet for a whole week , and the subject was never discussed again !!
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This question reminds me of the dowry, also asked the question, later thought oh well that's the culture here, ... it's called .... "to adjust"
paid,….to my utter surprise !, despite not wanting this, after a while I got back the Bridal money from her Parents, thought….”Culture”.
Now my answer to your question!, ….what do you think a Thai would do?,…. you just adapt to the Thai Culture, and don't let yourself be used as a, (think it's such an inferior word) rich “Farrang”.
12.000 is a lot as pocket money, after all you already pay the rent and food + drinks.
You will know yourself where the 12.000 go, eg take care of parents !!! please note that if there are more sisters, they must also contribute to the costs for mom and dad.
In 90% of cases, brothers simply don't pay anything.
Maybe she has debts that need to be paid off and she wants more, but again and especially in the Isaarn, 12.000 is a lot of money.
It will be a "problem" for many to provide the correct baht, but in many cases it is never enough.
Do I also pay everything and pocket money at home? get the kids.
Good luck with the bahtje eater 🙂
@ Rolf: Retirement? which pension??? That only exists here in Thailand for civil servants in government service!!!
And for all the others: since I married a Thai woman for the first time, I have entrusted her with the care of my finances. That is the custom in my family that the woman manages the money. That went well after a while and for my second wife (also Thai) I also gave her the management of my finances. That has been going well so far (we have now been married for 10 years this year). I do monitor what she does with the money and so far that has not been a problem, she just puts the money she doesn't need in the bank account. I have the impression that when I read your comments, you see your girlfriend or wife as a maid for all the work and that is a completely wrong view in my opinion. Please give them the freedom to manage their own household money, then you will no longer have to complain about them having too little money and at the same time you will have enough control over it. If you see them just throwing the money away, you can still intervene.
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We, my Thai wife and I always share all costs from the start, she does not want anything else, she is very happy with the idea that we will not have to suffer from poverty in the future!, I financed the house, but she the plot plus arable land for rice, sugar cane, maize, and the like.
In the beginning I had to get used to Thailand, so I looked for friends, mainly European ones, they regularly visited each other, beer, wine, whiskey, okay. Women in the kitchen, cooking, making delicacies, bickering, okay. Gentlemen with boastful behavior (drink), Ladies with big ears,... not okay, more than half end up in a divorce (money).
My luck!, never took my wife to such parties, can't/won't say whether you do/did!, but this is sometimes the cause of this demanding behavior, to be honest, this is not an exact answer to your question, but maybe you can do something with it/or not! .
Suc6, Eddie.
Look at it from the point of view of the Thai partner. You may also wonder what the partner does with the money. If she gives 12.000 THB of the 9.000 THB to her retired parents, she will only have 3.000 THB left for herself. The fact that Thais take care of their parents, or the family, is so ingrained in the culture. Furthermore, knowing that a farang is involved, the family will try to recover the costs of illness, broken scooter, urgent repairs to a house, etc. from your Thai partner. Whether you should take this for granted is another matter. But that is a burden on your Thai partner, who may not like that at all.
If there is someone in a Thai family who earns a lot of money, they will always be the first to be approached to solve this in the event of unexpected costs or problems.
Guess the trick is to find out what happens to the pocket money. Does it go to family, is it gambled on, is it saved, … Have an honest conversation about the matter. From that point of view, you can decide for yourself whether you give enough, too little or too much.
Furthermore, my opinion is that when someone never has enough, there is a problem. Then you need to discuss that.
It is generally known that the children take care of their Thai parents. NB; that concerns the Thai children. It is nowhere in Thai culture that the farang may / must take over this job. Assuming you pay EVERYTHING I am interested to know what your girlfriend (so you are not married) does with 12.000Bht/month. That is about 30% over the average earnings of the average Thai in the north.
I would ignore the fact that she thinks this is not enough. And the fact that other farangs pay even more to their girlfriend seems just made up to me. A friend of mine gives his wife 350 Baht every day for food, etc. He pays for the car, petrol, insurance, electricity, water, etc. She has so much left over from that 350 Baht that his wife has set up a flourishing private bank and LENDS money to others for 5%/month. And this not in the north but the central plains of Thailand, where life is more expensive. For example, my parents-in-law (debt-free) are more than sufficient on approximately 5500 Baht/month. But they themselves earn more than that.
Most family fathers don't even have what you give to your girlfriend as pocket money as wages for their family with children and car. I would think about that if I were you?.
Have been living in MAHASARAKHAM Thailand for 4 years now, in these 4 years I live alone, no girlfriend, no friend, live with my cat PIEM, .. very few European people lived here, so my friends and girlfriends are Thai, I have very learned a lot from them, that is why the teaching for a Farang for 97% is all about money and love here, cannot be compared to Europe, many Thai women want a Farang to avoid living in poverty….the question is 12000 T.Batt sufficient is my answer yes especially to read that the Farang pays for the groceries /
Greetings Hans.
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Well Koos, quite a few responses. The question arises for me how easily you can miss that 12.000 Bath (almost 300 euros). For some, 12.000 Bath is a lot of money and for others it's just a pittance. If you are in a good position, I can easily imagine that your partner would like to increase her standard of living with your money. By the way, do you know what she does with her “living allowance”? Does she support her parents with it, does she save it, does she buy jewelry with it, does she treat her friends, etc. etc.? I think it is important for you to know that and then you can determine the amount of her monthly "living allowance", taking into account what you can and want to miss. No less important is that you feel good about providing your girlfriend with a monthly allowance! Make a good appointment with each other, constant discussions about money can destroy your relationship!
Here I am again with 2 more things I don't understand,
If you think 12.000 is a good amount (which it certainly is) why change that because someone else gives more???
it's about your feeling, or should it all become uniform.. there are those who get more, but also those who get less even nothing, nothing prevents you from equating yourself with that.
secondly, some say you have to adapt, it is culture here, as a farang you can never become completely Thai, we also have our culture and customs. Nothing obliges you to sponsor her family or support parents, you are not Thai, it is not your culture. If a Thai wants to live with a farang, she knows that she also has to adapt to your cultural differences. If she cannot or does not want to do that, she would be better off finding a Thai who will work and give all his money to her family.
if you want to do those things it is completely your choice, not an obligation.
Greetings
Chris
Chris has said it well. I don't give my dear wife anything extra. I only have a state pension, so no supplementary pension. Together we have 1020 euros per month. We use (I pay all costs) that is 20.000 per month that we live on together. We eat what we want, I eat Dutch and she Thai. So there is 20.000 left over every month of the more than 40.000 baths. What do we do with that money? We occasionally buy some extra in or around our house and regularly travel to Thailand. holiday and visits other cities. The advantage is if you make good agreements before you move here, it will be much easier for you to manage the financial part together, regardless of the Thai culture. I am lucky, my name says it all, that my wife does not have to have any family, etc. people should just give what they think is good and not always whine about the negative sides of a Thai woman. There are always more good women than bad ones in Thailand. And if a bargoer ends up cheated, it is his own fault because you have to sleep at night, right?
I have a Thai friend living in the isaan, has her house and a daughter, does not work. I send her 20.000 baths every month and she can manage from this with all the fixed costs of the house such as water, electricity, etc. and the sport for her 1-year-old daughter.
it therefore depends on what someone does with it, but everyone must do what he can and wants.
Depends if it works or not. My girlfriend has her own shop in BKK and works 6 days a week. She earns an average of 30.000 baht with that. After deducting her rent (room, shop and living expenses, etc.) she has about 10.000 net left. I make a standard monthly transfer of 5000 (approximately the rent of her room energy and water). So she has 15000 to spend on things outside of food and rent. And she manages to easily put aside 8.000 to 10.000 because she has little free time. If she wants a weekend off, I'll transfer a little extra. Or recently when her TV broke I paid half. I think that 12.000 is not too much, but certainly not (too) little. Importantly she just goes to work and I suspect she doesn't and then you spend more. And if she will look around, others will have a much harder time.
I also think it depends quite a bit on what you have to spend as a farang. If you have to make do with an AOW, then 10.000 pocket money for your girlfriend is a lot. If you earn 300.000 baht a month, you can take some off. The point is that you can justify it for yourself, not whether someone else gets more.
My girlfriend gets about 20.000 baht, she also has a job, which yields about 10.000 baht.
Furthermore, if we eat out or go out, then I pay, but she also knows that for every other item, petrol for motorbikes, clothing, etc., I don't have to knock on my door.
I think you must be very lucky if you find a Thai (se) as Farang who is and stays with you for love.
I have been living in Thailand for about 5 years now and have had a partner for 3 years who I am sure is with me out of love. I also know that I can consider myself very lucky. I now know so many farangs with Thai partners that I really feel sorry for the farang. They have often become stuck in one way or another. For example, they bought a house where they are no longer in charge of their property, but the entire family is involved in everything and, above all, always exerts pressure to extract money from the farang. The pressure is increasing because it is never enough. Without asking, I can see from the faces of the farangs how unhappy they are.
Of course I also pay the bills when we go out, just because I earn a lot more than he does. Nothing wrong with that. However, I get so many attentions and he can't get enough of spending his free time with me. My argument is not to say that things never go well. Fortunately, I also know couples who are very happy together. Be careful when you start a relationship and don't be tempted to make large investments too quickly. 12000 baht seems more than enough to me. Good luck
my girlfriend takes my debit card when i'm not in thailand,
lives in Isaan, together with her parents,
and has not even taken 8 off in 10.000 years…..
I (still) live in the Netherlands and transfer 150 euros to my girlfriend every month. About 6500 Bath. She pays her rent and her food from that. She also works for her extra income. Don't make them lazy by giving them too much money. (is my opinion) When I leave for Thailand in a few years, I want to buy 2 apartments for rent. The income will then not always be the same, so she will also have to look for work. Fortunately, my girlfriend understands that and is certainly not too lazy to work.
I don't know where you live, but I personally think 12000 bath is too much, especially if you also pay all fixed costs yourself. If I were in your shoes it would be my way or the Highway.
Koos you don't have to throw it over the bar, but you seem to be able to miss it.
If it's a sweet caring woman, who cares, you can't take it with you anyway.
A care home in the Netherlands costs more, so you get pocket money.
It is better to live rich than to die rich, All that glitters is not gold.
Greetings from an old man. Borrow.
Depending on the personal relationship situation (girlfriend, partner or wife), 20.000 Baht provides for the necessary necessities of life, except for the additional costs for dentist, insurance and motorcycle/car repairs, clothing, etc.
In addition, there is the concern for the family, because the woman is and remains a member of the social “family” community. The moral pressure exerted on the woman by the family to “help” is very great. Helping extends beyond just the parents, but also the little brother who causes an accident on a motorcycle, a 14-year-old sister who is having a baby, and the niece who is in secondary education and cannot pay the school fees, etc.
An important fact is that Thailand is a consumer society and women are continuously bombarded by TV commercials (every 10 minutes) with the latest trends in beauty products, gadgets, cars, etc. In total, 40.000 Baht is a reasonable amount. to get through the month without too much mutual stress. For another 10.000 Baht more, the farang can live a contented life in the “Land of Smiles”.
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