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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Questions about a visa run with an annual visa
Dear readers,
Soon we will leave for Hua Hin for a year. We are going to apply for the O visa with multiple entries, so 4 x 90 = valid for 360 days. After 90 days we have to make a visa run. Does this have to be done exactly on the day until the date that the visa is valid, or can it be done a few days earlier?
If earlier, does this deduct from the 360 days? If so, could this possibly mean that we have to plan the return journey earlier than the 360 days? Anyone know how this works in practice?
Thanks for the answer.
Regards,
Constant
Dear Constant,
It's all in the Dossier visa.
With your Non-Immigrant “O” Multiple Entry you can make visa runs when and how many you want.
You just need to ensure that the allowed period of stay in Thailand is not exceeded, ie no more than 90 days of uninterrupted stay in Thailand (check the entry stamp for the correct length of stay and date).
You may make 2,4, 7 or 9 but also 10, 25 or 30 visa runs within that year, even every week or every day that's why it's called Multiple Entry.
I exaggerate a bit to make it clear that a Multiple Entry is not tied to a number.
With a Tourist Visa it is, which is why they speak of Single, Double and Triple and not Multiple, despite Double and Triple also being Multiple.
You just have to keep in mind that the last Entry has to be done the day before the validity period of the visa.
To do this, see the date on your visa next to ENTER BEFORE.
So you may make visa runs until the day BEFORE that date.
You will always get 90 days also with the last run.
The fact that the validity period expires the next day does not affect the period of stay you will receive.
Your visa is therefore valid for a maximum of one year (12 months), but theoretically you can stay in Thailand for 15 months if you make a visa run on the penultimate day.
After those 12 months, your visa is no longer valid, so if you leave between months 12 and 15, you can no longer enter with that visa.
Those 12 and 15 months are purely theoretical, of course, because you are not from day 1 of your visa in Thailand.
The validity of the visa starts from the moment it is issued.
So don't wait half a year to leave….
A Non immigrant O multiple entry means that during the validity of the visa you get 90 days each time you enter Thailand and then you have to leave the country again and when you return you get 90 days again.
If you apply 1 day before (or a few days) the validity period of the visa, not the stamp but the date on the visa sticker, you get 90 days again. So you can stay almost 450 days
Please note that the day you leave the country is day 90 AND day 1 of the new period. The stay is therefore a maximum of 90 plus (4 x 89) days is 446 days.
Keep an eye out for the stamps as you enter. Do that at the counter where the passport is stamped, where the official is standing, because you can easily have it corrected there, later that will be a hassle.
I would never go on day 90/89 myself but take a day earlier. You never know if you or your partner will wake up that day with the feeling that it is better to stay in bed all day or because of a bowel discomfort in the smallest room and then your mark expires. I always took an extra day even though I only lived 4 km from the border.
Best,
If you are over 50 years old, you must apply for a multiple of 140 euros. This gives you access to go in and out of Thailand all year round.
Please note that you are not allowed to stay in Thailand for 90 days, you can go a few days earlier, that is not a problem, you must have been out of the country for a while, please note that there are strict penalties if you do not comply with immigration.
upon arrival at the airport you will receive a stamp in your passport and how long you can stay in Thailand. I always do this so I am married to a Thai.
Hallo,
Pay particular attention to the 90-day period, not 3 months. You can go earlier, but you will get 30 days again from your entry into Thailand. Check the time they give you on your arrival card, it often happens that they only give you XNUMX days, so complain immediately. Stamp of the previous customer with date.
Gr will
Also inquire with your travel insurance, I think you are only allowed 180 consecutive days per holiday, even if you have a continuous one year. Have fun. Regards Ben
And good to know there is a new border crossing in Khanchanaburi from Hua Hin that can easily be done in one day.
We will drive at 6 o'clock, be at the border for 9 o'clock, then have dinner at the River Kwai Bridge and then be back home in Cha am before 6 o'clock, everything at a leisurely pace.
Dear All,
Thank you for your responses. I now know the difference between the validity period and the length of stay of a visa.
Our application for an O visa is now with the Thai embassy. On July 23 we leave for Hua hin.
For the travel insurance I have taken out a so-called globetrotter insurance. It is valid for one year.
Extra expensive.
If you have any tips, I'd love to hear them.
Friendly thanks
Constant
With ohra travel insurance you are insured for a year, even if you have a continuous travel insurance.
if you are over 50 you can apply for a retirement visa. you only have to report to immigration every 90 days (so not out of the country)
You can request the rules for this at the Thai embassy
You don't have to limit yourself to visa runs either, but can take the opportunity to visit one of the neighboring countries for a few days, where you will stay for a few days.
When you return to Thailand (in any way) a new period of 90 days starts.
Always check the specified date at immigration and respond immediately if it does not match what you expect.
Good luck and good journey.
My plan is to go to Thailand next year.
Now I read (and have read before) that with a “Non-Immigrant “O” Multiple Entry” visa you
you can also report to immigration (so you don't have to make the visa run).
Does this also apply if you are under this visa based on marriage and not retirement?
If so, does anyone know an immigration office near Surin or Roi-Et?
Then I don't have to go to Chong Chom every 90 days for the visa run
Dear Maurice
With a Non-Immigrant “O” you can stay in Thailand for a maximum of 90 days without interruption.
If you want to stay longer, you will have to perform a visa run.
Whether you have received that visa on the basis of marriage or retirement does not matter in itself.
I also know of people who have managed to arrange something with immigration in the past, so that they get an extension and therefore do not have to carry out a visa run.
This is Thailand after all…. saying this is not possible would be stupid.
I will not claim that this is illegal because they get an official stamp, but it is not the correct way of working, more a local extra income.
You can do whatever you want with that.....whether it is wise?????
By the way, a visa run is really not the end of the world or do you not have the time for that?
Anyone who has been granted a stay of more than 90 days, for any reason,
by the way, must report every 90 days (doesn't have to be personal).
This reporting obligation every 90 days has nothing to do with the visa run.
I'll just let you know in case you're mistaken between the two.
If you plan to stay in Thailand for several years or permanently, you may consider requesting a one-year extension at the end of the validity period of your current visa.
You can then extend it annually afterwards by one year at a time, so you are also relieved of those visa runs.
This can be done on the basis of marriage or retirement (50 years or +).
You can read all about it in the Dossier Visa.
Interim question: So no more 90 days visa run?. That's really good news.
rebel,
If you have obtained an extension of one year, you do indeed not have to carry out any visa runs.
You will get a stamp in your passport with the text
(text may differ slightly per Immigration Office)
“Extension of stay promised up to …. Holder must leave the Kingdom within the date specified herein. Offenders will be prosecuted.
Then there is usually a warning that when you leave the country, you must first apply for re-entry and that you are obliged to report to Immigration every 90 days.
Dear Ronnie
Thank you for explaining.
Learned something again.
I want to do everything according to the rules as much as possible, hence the question.
It is better to know in advance than to make a mistake afterwards.
Visa run is indeed not the end of the world. It would have been a bit easier, 50 km or 150 km can still (in Thailand) be a big difference.
Let's just make it a nice day out at Chong Chom market.
Dear Maurice,
I agree with you.
Doing everything according to the rules is still the best guarantee, also in Thailand.
That's what I do and I haven't had any problems with it yet.
I also leave the cool stories about how they managed to circumvent the system for what they are and where they belong. Don't let them talk you into it.
Usually you suddenly don't see them anymore or they are desperate for someone to get them out of their misery.
By the way, as far as visa runs are concerned.
You can go to another post or combine it with a visit of a few days.
As you say – make it a nice trip.
Have fun
With my visa (Thai wife) this is based on marriage, I don't have to do a run, also I don't have to report to the immi, report once every 90 days to the local police or amphur in the district where I living (Sang-Khom) is sufficient, but must mention that you have your own house on leased land (address) + tabien-baan (yellow Book).
Dear Eddy, oet Sang-Khom
You do not have a “Thai wife visa” but an extension of one year on the basis of marriage to a Thai.
Agreed, it is called by many, including Immigration, "Thai wife visa" (and sometimes it is even on the local stamp) but a "Thai wife visa" does not exist as a visa in itself.
It is only an indication (on the stamp) that you received your extension based on a Thai marriage.
Because you are therefore allowed to stay in Thailand for a consecutive year, you also do not have to carry out visa runs, just like anyone who has such an extension.
A “Thai wife visa” has a major advantage (including less proof of income), but you also know that it has a major disadvantage.
If your relationship comes to an end (divorce, death of your wife), your extension will expire.
Also keep that in mind…..
Indeed, you are right, if there is no Immigration Office nearby, it is written that you can also do this at the local police.
The reason that you are allowed to do this to the police is because it is described as such by Immigration, and not because you have your own house on leased land (address) + tabien job (yellow Book)…. 🙂
-can be quiet few days earlier, not later, then you have to pay per day late.
-with the visa you mentioned, you only have to get a stamp at KhonKaen immigration every 3 months, it costs nothing. You'll be outside in 10 minutes. So no visa run.
-assume Hua Hin uses the same rules.
KhunBram.
I don't think I have to go to the immigration office to report myself
You can also have it reported via a friend, by telegram or an acquaintance in case of an extension of stay
With 90-day notifications you do indeed not have to do this yourself, ie you do not have to be present yourself. Can also be done by mail or a third person (doesn't have to be someone who knows you like a friend).
However, it is not possible by telegram because you have to send some papers that they will send you back afterwards.
I did it by post in Bangkok and it works fine.
Hi Rony,
I asked about the visa run before, you helped me a lot but still have a question, with applying for a Non Immigrant O visa I only asked for a Single entry, Can I do a re-entry before I leave for the visa run based on this visa and what are the costs? Now that everything has changed recently, only 1x visa run if I didn't read wrong? Since Monday, or can it be done differently?
Dear Anja
I can't follow right now.
Can you briefly explain your previous problem back to me because I don't remember what it was exactly.
Just send me an email [email protected]