Reader question: Who knows about tiling?

By Editorial
Posted in Reader question
March 14 2013

Dear readers,

Are there expats in Thailand who have been tilers in the past and can help and inform me about tiling in my new home in Korat?

My bathroom is now being tiled for the third time and I can already see it going wrong again.

Who can help me with this or recommend someone who can do this for me?

Hank Corat

10 responses to “Reader question: Who knows about tiling?”

  1. Henk B says up

    Dear Henk, understand your problem all too well, know something about it professionally (before I went into Horeca, foreman / manager) in construction.
    And often go and have a look when construction is taking place, tiling floors is generally good, but walls are a horror, also in my house, too thick layers of cement, so the entire tile does not sit properly
    usually nothing in the corners, and if you want to hang something later, there is a risk of breaking or tearing.
    We advise you to have the walls plastered properly and straight first, and then to glue the tiles, a better result is guaranteed, if you want more explanation, my E-mail known to the editors,

  2. Keith 1 says up

    Dear Henk
    First tell us what went wrong. I can't imagine what will go wrong for the third time. I've been in home renovation and I can, among other things
    Tiling. I put tiles on purpose. Because tiling is a profession in itself. This means that the tile is glued to the wall by means of a bite of mortar. the wall does not have to be really flat, the tiler compensates for this by using a little more or less mortar
    In NL we first have the walls flattened by a plasterer, then you can simply glue the tiles. In Thailand, people generally still put.
    It's nice to see them do that. It's like they're spreading bread
    But let me know what goes wrong maybe I can help you
    With kind regards, Kees

    • Henk van 't Slot says up

      Walls are usually not flat, so the adhesive is not smeared with a trowel and then pressed into the tiles, but they smear the tile and stick it on the wall.
      They start in the corner and they can see how they end on the other side, which is why you often see that at the end of the wall everything is filled with a strip of tile of 1 or 2 centimeters, no face.
      This is easy to prevent by first doing some calculations, let's say that the tile is 15 cm wide, and the wall is 155 cm, count 3 mm for the joint.
      Tiles and add together you arrive at the 153 cm, so you get another strip like that.
      Add that 2 cm to the width of the tile, which is 17 cm, and then start with a cut tile of 8,5 cm, so you end up with a tile of 8,5 cm.
      Also don't start tiling right from the ground, if the floor is crooked you will get problems.
      Nail a slat level at the average height of the tile from the ground, and start placing the tiles from there, you are always nice and straight.
      In the Netherlands you can buy tile crosses of different sizes, have never seen them here in Thailand, but you can use something else for that, eg matches or toothpicks, the tile will not sink and all joints will be equal.

      • henk korat says up

        Gentlemen,
        First of all, the walls are laid, neatly along a string. You don't think about it at first and think it's going to be good. Until you happen to be in line with a wall and think, is it straight? Don't know how, but you can see it at a glance. Spirit level against it and no, it is 5mm skewed at half a meter. That means at a height of 2,5 meters you have a difference of 2,5 cm above and below. Wall removed. Then the tiling begins. you come home in the evening and go see what happened and then you see that they started with a full tile on one side and only have a few cm of tile on the other side. Removed it again and now it's working again for the third time. laying tiles Again not flat against the wall. If you go over it with your hand, you will feel a difference of 1-2 mm. I hardly dare to say anything about it because then I'm afraid that they will throw their head against it and it will be a mess. Actually, I'm looking for a Dutchman who can put tiles for a fee. Because really this is a nuisance.

        • Henk van 't Slot says up

          Bricklaying along a string "on the wire" is what they call it in the Netherlands, there is nothing wrong with that, but if the adjusting profiles are not placed properly level, then it will not work.
          If the wall is crooked and not smoothed, you will never get the tiles on it properly.
          What does make a difference is the size of the tiles, with smaller tiles you can mess around more than with a large tile of eg 40*20 cm.
          A new hotel was delivered to me a few months ago, see them regularly
          doing repair work on the tiling of the driveway, and at the lobby, so they make a mess everywhere.

        • Keith 1 says up

          Dear Henk Korat
          The fact that the wall is out of plumb is not so much the problem, there are no construction works where the walls are really perpendicular to each other. The 25 mm that your wall is out of plumb can be absorbed with tiling, which is 1 mm per 10 cm.
          The problem is that the people you let do this just can't do it.
          I can explain to you how to tile, but that doesn't make any sense.
          If it's the same people who also put the wall, I think you really have to find other people, it won't work I'm afraid. I'll give you some pointers anyway.

          Draw a line horizontally with the spirit level, say 150 cm from the floor, calculate the center of the wall and draw a line vertically from top to bottom with the spirit level. Start with the center of the tile on the center of the wall on the horizontal line you have already set.
          Measure the distance from the wall from left to right. You may not end up with a strip of 2 or 3 cm left and right. BV. Your wall is 156 cm wide. your tile is 15 cm wide. then you don't take 10 tiles of 15 but 9 and in both corners a cut tile of 10.5 cm I have not included the joint but so you know what I mean
          If you do it this way, it is best to start from a corner that your heart size is not right
          Put tile crosses or something else between the tiles to get the correct joint widths
          You don't have to persist. By stealing width from the joint without it being visible to the naked eye, you can compensate for small width differences.
          Then there are a number of things that are important, such as gluing the walls. What kind of glue do you use or do you put them in the cement, which must also have the right proportion, not too thin but not too thick.
          I hope I helped you a little.

          Dear Lex Phuket
          Grouting is not tiling, there is a bit more to it if you want to do it neatly
          thinking alone will not get you there. For most people who understand nuclear physics, tiling is just as difficult as nuclear physics is for me. I don't understand that.
          Greetings Kees

  3. Ton says up

    Hi,
    First tell what goes wrong and what is the surface,
    The surface is always very important. Gluing or setting.

  4. lexphuket says up

    Hahaha.
    My experience is that almost all women in Isaan have worked in construction and know how to do it. Mine just re-grouted the entire pool. No problem (no plops) she said.
    And when the going gets tough: think carefully first. It's not nuclear physics

  5. grain says up

    Dear Henk, if you want I will come and tile your bathroom, I can leave on April 6
    Gr Bob

  6. Chris Bleker says up

    Henk,… I'm not that far from you, Chatturat, that's about 85 km from Khorat, and still have to go to KHON kAEN on Monday morning, galvanizing plant, can drive over Khorat on the way back, but unfortunately I don't have any tools for tiling in Thailand, but if they are large plates, they must be sharpened anyway, and I do have them.
    You can request my email via Thailandblog, herewith my permission.


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