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Reader question: Banned from Thailand for visa overstay

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February 27 2017

Dear readers,

I have a 5 year ban from Thailand for failing to renew my visa (4 years). Now I miss Thailand very much. Is there a way to legally undo this ban?

Thank you.

Edgard from Belgium

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23 responses to “Reader question: Ban from Thailand for visa overrun”

  1. henry says up
    27 February 2017 at 11: 19

    The answer is very simple NO,

  2. grain says up
    27 February 2017 at 11: 29

    secretly via Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia or Myanmar. But not by air.

    • alex says up
      28 February 2017 at 04: 37

      Edgard, what Bob says don't do if you get caught 7 years at

  3. Bob says up
    27 February 2017 at 11: 30

    Have you stayed in Thailand for 4 years without renewing your visa?
    Can it be bought off with a fine?

  4. Marc says up
    27 February 2017 at 11: 58

    Overland, through the neighboring countries, through the forests and the jungle….. but then you are again illegal in Thailand………. when the 5 years are over you go back to the neighboring countries through jungle and forests, and then you can safely travel back into Thailand legally via the airport.

  5. Eric Sr says up
    27 February 2017 at 12: 07

    Only a response to the reader's question will be posted. He himself will understand that he was stupid.

  6. Fransamsterdam says up
    27 February 2017 at 12: 25

    Until the introduction of the stricter regulations (March 20, 2016), there might have been a way to adjust if you had registered yourself.
    It received quite a bit of attention at the time.
    You have been treated in accordance with the current rules and I would be very surprised if, without very urgent reasons for his or mistakes being made, people were to offer escape possibilities again. I've also never read or heard anywhere that someone could undo an already imposed ban, but I'm not omniscient either, and questions are free, so check with the Thai embassy.
    .
    http://www.samutprakanimmigration.go.th/warning-of-overstay-in-thailand/
    .

  7. Alex says up
    27 February 2017 at 12: 33

    No chance! If you enter through one of the other countries, that is also illegal and you will be banned for 10 years!

  8. Nico B says up
    27 February 2017 at 12: 44

    A ban does not take place lightly and is based on the laws in Thailand.
    You do not state the basis for why you did not extend your Visa on time.
    I am not a lawyer, but perhaps a basis such as, for example, a very long hospitalization, not being able to apply for extensions yourself and also not being able to ask a doctor to do so for you, could be a basis submit a request for review?
    I assume you didn't do the 90 day notifications either.
    To make an estimate of your chances you could ask a specialized Thai lawyer who might be able to find or prepare a way to the result you want, but to be honest, I think this will prove to be a mission impossible. Too bad for you, then you can visit Thailand surrounding countries.
    Nico B

  9. Gino says up
    27 February 2017 at 13: 35

    Dear Edward,
    No you can't undo it at all.
    I work as a volunteer at the Tourist Police (you certainly shouldn't be afraid of me) and hear and see all kinds of stories, much worse than yours.
    I give you good advice learn to live with those 5 years and that's it.
    And I wouldn't follow certain (stupid) reactions with coming overland because if they pick you up, the fence is completely off the dam.
    And applying for a new passport also makes no sense because you are also registered with name, first name, and date of birth.
    Gino.

  10. jacob says up
    27 February 2017 at 14: 03

    Hello Edgar, accept the ban, don't follow stupid advice from stupid people about jungle etc, visit a Thai restaurant once a week to taste the atmosphere and come back legally and safely in 5 years, good luck.

  11. fernand says up
    27 February 2017 at 14: 57

    Dear,

    I also know a Belgian who was no longer allowed to enter Thailand due to overstay (several times for a few days and weeks). Stamp in his pass.. He came to Belgium, stayed here for a few months, made a new passport and went back with the fright not to enter to touch. New passport, no questions about his past and he was inside! Last week he went back outside, no problem either.

    Maybe try this if you want to go back quickly, otherwise you now have the opportunity to explore the neighboring countries, which you might not have enough time for otherwise.

    • Nico B says up
      27 February 2017 at 16: 30

      I have my doubts about this, but you say so, so assume for now that this is correct.
      Then I think that at the passport control upon entry the official on duty did not look further than his nose, your Belgian will probably have entered for no longer than 30 days, slip of the pen.
      If your Belgian were to apply for a visa for any longer period, it seems to me that such a visa will not be issued by the Thai Embassy, ​​which looks a bit further than their noses.
      I am very curious about how long your Belgian traveled to Thailand.
      Nico B

  12. erik says up
    27 February 2017 at 15: 01

    Without special circumstances such as a (sick) wife and/or child in Thailand, I don't think you stand a chance. In special circumstances you will have to put an expert lawyer on the case and those names can be found; however, you will not be able to attend. I think if it succeeds it will cost a tidy penny.

    Until then, you will have to spend your holiday in a neighboring country of Thailand and your family will have to visit you there. Do not cross the border into Thailand; if they catch you, you go to jail, you get the stamp 'unwanted for good' and that can mean that other countries will also refuse you. And also countries with strict immigration rules such as the countries 'down under'.

    I think you can fly via Bangkok and stay there in transit. Then on to a neighboring country.

    Hum, now aside, some food for experts:

    You fly to Myanmar, Laos or Cambodia for holiday and there you lose your passport or it gets stolen. There is no authorized consulate there, but you cannot travel without a passport, so you have to go to the Dutch embassy in that country for a laisser-passer. And that embassy is in Bangkok.

    I think you should be allowed in for the time needed, but the embassy probably knows a lot more about that.

    • erik says up
      27 February 2017 at 15: 07

      I see that Myanmar does not fit in this list, and that the questioner may be Belgian. Then things change. Worth investigating.

  13. Arjen says up
    27 February 2017 at 15: 16

    It seems to be possible to undo your ban for a (considerable) payment. This goes through senior lawyers in Thailand who apparently have connections with immigration. Search Craigslist Bangkok and you might get further. Good luck!

  14. p.hofstee says up
    27 February 2017 at 16: 21

    What is all described here is nice, but it is of no use to you. What you can possibly do is write to the Thai Consulate in The Hague that you are sorry and possibly want to pay a hefty fine to be able to go to Thailand sooner. (It used to be possible, but now the military is in power) But not shooting is always wrong. good luck with that.

  15. Paul J says up
    27 February 2017 at 17: 34

    the only way is to change your surname (surname) and apply for a new passport
    I know people who have succeeded and who have been staying in Thailand for many years and can simply travel with this new passport
    necessary not to book a direct flight but to enter Thailand by land (e.g. via Cambodia) due to facial recognition at the airport in Bangkok
    success

  16. William van Beveren says up
    28 February 2017 at 02: 35

    Go live in Vietnam for a while, then you won't want Thailand anymore.

  17. Jasper van Der Burgh says up
    28 February 2017 at 05: 13

    I recommend that you contact Sunbelt Asia Legal Advisors, based in Bangkok and specializing in this type of matter. You can contact them by email with your question.
    There seem to be exceptions.
    However, it will not be cheap, but questions are free.

  18. Rudy says up
    28 February 2017 at 05: 39

    Those who don't follow the rules have to sit on the blisters, it's that simple...so the answer is NO, you can enter Thailand illegally because that would be it and if they catch you you might end up somewhere you certainly don't want to end, such as the detention center in Bangkok.

  19. Jack S says up
    28 February 2017 at 07: 49

    The world has a lot to offer. Thailand is now my home port, but then I would make the best of those five years and go to Cambodia or Vietnam as suggested. The Philippines must also still be worth it. Everything is better than waiting for time in the Netherlands. Of course I don't know how old you are and that you might be afraid you won't make it to the end of those five years. But precisely then those countries are an alternative…

    • Bert Schimmel says up
      28 February 2017 at 08: 34

      I don't recommend the Philippines, I've lived there for about 4 years and I don't think it's a pleasant country to live in.
      I can't say anything about Vietnam, but I can recommend Cambodia. I have lived there for about 9 years now and prefer Siem Reap to Phnom Penh.


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