Dear readers,
My question is related to making multiple 3 entry TV.
Dear people, I have enjoyed reading through all the information regarding visa applications, but unfortunately, due to the amount of information, I no longer see the forest…..HELP.
I just tried to call the Thai consulate but unfortunately no answer.
My situation:
I am 34 years old and would like to stay in Thailand for a year (I have enough money to stay for 2 years so that should not be a problem). Non-immigrant visa is out of the question for me since I am not yet 50 years old, so I thought I could make a good start with a 3 entry visa.
What I'm stuck on right now:
1. Can I book a single flight ticket for the reason that I would like to find out later from where I will be making my return journey to the Netherlands?
2. You may stay 3×60 days, but now I also read that you can extend your visa after 60 days by 30 days, is this allowed all 3 times? if I understand correctly, will I have to make a visa run after 90 days (60+30) to allow the next entry to start?
3. To apply for a 3 entry TV, I have to fill in a travel plan, can I indicate the country here or do I have to fill in the city from where I am leaving and where I am going to? Since they also ask very specifically the dates when I leave Thailand and re-enter, should I also indicate here that (if question 2 is correct) instead of 60 days, I will make the next visa run for 90 days?
I hope someone can help me here……thanks in advance.
With kind regards,
Bjorn
Dear Bjorn,
question 1 You may book a one-way ticket to Thailand.
I don't know question 2, but it is also not very important, because this extension could only happen in Thailand, so you have to ask at the emigration office, where you have to report after 60 days for a stamp in your passport.
Complete question 3 travel plan, but the idea is that you indicate something in general such as: I want to go to Cambodia for 2 weeks on that date and back on a date 2 weeks later and you can also indicate this for the other entrances so that you indicate 3 destinations with start and end date.
However, it is of no importance whether you are actually going to make these trips or want to change.
Greetings from Danny
Thanks for your input Danny.
About question 1: have just received confirmation from China Airlines that this is indeed possible if I can provide flight details or a hotel reservation for my next destination, I just think I will make a ghost booking on booking.com for a hotel in Cambodia, for example, and after the cancel confirmation of ok immediately so that I still have a confirmation that I can use to prove that I am supposedly staying in Cambodia after 60 days Thailand….should be possible right?
About question 2: I have now also found out and it is possible.
About question 3: so if I understand correctly I can more or less make this up and adjust my travel plan afterwards. In reality, I just want to stay in Thailand and thus activate my 2nd and 3rd entry through Visaruns.
I entered Thailand in June with a triple entry
question 1: With a triple entry you can simply book a single flight, a booking for a hotel or a
another flight is not an option if your visa has been approved
question 2: You can only have your visa extended once at immigration with 30 days, for the simple reason that the visa is only valid for 6 months. For example, if your visa was issued on 1 June
it expires on December 1, so you must use your 1rd entry before December 3.
question 3: For the consulate in Berchem, the accompanying letter must simply state that you want to travel around Asia for a longer period of time and use Thailand as a hub, that is all it should contain.
I did so on the advice of the consulate in Berchem and everything went without any problem
After all the previous advice, you can still stay in Thailand after your visa has expired via so-called visa runs, in other words you have to cross the border and then you can get 15 days via the land border (each time) or 30 days via entry by air. . at least if you belong to the EXEMPTION countries NL & Be and many others belong to them. France, Italy, Germany, Canada & the UK now also recently receive 30 days at land borders. Be sure to check how long your passport is still valid for that long period (must still be valid for X number of months upon last entry...
The above information for the visa runs is only partially correct. At least in Mae Sai, you are now only allowed to do the visa runs (read: across the border and back) four times in a row (for 15-day landings) and twice (for 2-day landings). At the fifth/third time you are clearly told that you really have to apply for a visa. I experienced this myself in November. It wasn't a disaster because I left afterward, but my acquaintance stayed and the next time he was only given five days and was urgently asked to purchase a visa or leave. That visa was obtained in Vientiane without any problems, but for a fee.
And that's what it's all about: 15/30 days will yield nothing to Thailand. A visa means: checkout.
So once, twice or three times Mae Sai is really no problem but after that it can get harder.
A Thai acquaintance who works at immigration in Chiang Mai has confirmed the above to me.
Whether the "new rule" is also consistently applied everywhere is of course always the question in Thailand, but ………….the government needs money so every new cash that is found is useful.
I will now be away for more than 3 months and then your “past” regarding visa runs will expire (>90 days away from Thailand) so I can just start again.
yes, that may be true, depending on which border post it also depends on how far in the past you used a visa again.... usually the countless illegal workers are targeted, for example "English teachers",
some try to stay this way year after year. don't think OP will have a problem squeezing out 1 year with his Triple entry;
Each border post and crew also have different options via: “it is at The discretion of the officer to ask further (or other) doc …” rule
There is also a difference whether you run a visa run on your own or through the "visa run services" who have a foot (tips) and also arrange all paperwork for you for from price 2000 bht. + meal included
VAT 90 day rule has been abolished for a long time, if in doubt or disbelief > thaivisa.com at visa section after questions, in English!! experts are there at the MODS
I'm not going to get into any kind of discussion here. This afternoon I had contact again with my acquaintance at the immigration in Chiang Mai and for the 15d/30d visa runs people in Mae Sai are now looking again at
– number of consecutive times that people have crossed the border at Mae Sai
4 x (with 15 days of landing) or 2x (with 30 days of landing) no problem, but with 5x/3x or
moreover, a visa must be applied for for a further consecutive stay.
– with the above visa runs (ie without a previous visa in the passport) the 90-day rule is indeed looked at again. (ie within a period of 180 days, one may stay in Thailand for a maximum of 90 days).
Again: this ONLY applies to the 15d/30d visa runs.
I don't mean a welles notes game to get right, just clarifying why that arrangement is possible.
IS officially abolished, but this concerns the freedom of personal and local interpretation of civil servants to refuse or restrict entry of a visa to civil servants (for whatever reason, T.IT. !! ) and, if red stamped, is ONLY for those conscious border post, with "red stamp" you can feel free to go to another crossing or embassy = only a warning that next time access is not possible there..
PS;Let's stop at “Chat Danger” .
Thank you all for the advice!
Booking a one-way ticket should therefore not be a problem, but I see that I already have a return flight for 3 euros more, so I am still considering what to do. after all, with a return flight when I indicate that I am going to the Netherlands anyway and I can always have the return flight date adjusted at a later stage.
I'm sitting here looking at the application foir visa form and now they ask me a:
1. Fill in the proposed address (just the first hotel reservation will suffice…or not?)
2.name and address of local guarantor ???
3.name and address of guarantor in thailand ???
Just leave #2 and #3 blank, as these forms also serve for other visa systems such as work permit / invitation from Thailand / volunteer work, etc., you can always inquire at the Consulate upon delivery. (I even left that + my type of visa open for my Non O multiple last time). They will add that to your application themselves. Berchem Consulate is normally not difficult. The main thing is your own details + possibly contact person in Belgium (for emergencies). This is a standard form for all visas, you can (still) complete this on site.
After those seven months you can go to Laos and there you can apply for a double entry. You will normally get this without any problem if you can prove that you have enough money in your account and a fixed income. only Laos still has double entries
After your triple entry has been used up, just fly to a neighboring country and apply for a visa, you will get it without a problem, I flew to Kuala Lumpur in no time and after two days a visa for two months is fine and then you can go back to immigration for an extension of 30 days. I am not one hundred percent sure, but I think that you can apply for a double entry in Laos itself.
As you describe him @ Dirk Smeets, that's how I did my last long vacation. 1st entry flown to Bali, 2nd visa run Cambodia. 3x in Pattaya at the immigration extra month extended a 1900 bht. Then took a train to Laos and got a double entry there! Did 4 days in Laos and 3 days in Udon Thani, then flew back to Bangkok, absolutely great!
Our Thai Visa Specialist (Ronny Mergits) has not yet responded. The answers listed above deserve some addition, and sometimes correction (quite a bit is being confused) to your 3 questions about using a Tourist Visa with 3 entries ('triple entry').
First of all, if you are not yet 50, or if you are married to a Thai, you cannot stay in Thailand for 1 year or more, unless you have a 'work visa' or an 'education visa'. All these 4 types are Non-Immigrant Visa; the last 2 are increasingly difficult to obtain. Whatever they say, you can never stay in Thailand for more than 90 consecutive days with a Tourist Visa.
You have a Tourist Visa with triple entry; a good choice.
Question 1: Can I book a single flight ticket?
Yes, you can, but the airline can determine that more is required, eg a booking at the end of the first period of stay (see answer to question 2 = I would use 88 or 89 days). After all, the airline is responsible for ensuring that you comply with the visa regulations. Some are very precise in this. The Immigration Officer in Bangkok can also ask about this. Avoid problems with a 'return booking' to another country that does not (yet) cost you money.
Question 2: What about extending the (3) stay period(s)?
At the end of every (repeat: every) 60 days, go to the nearest Immigration Office. You make copies of your passport and your departure card (your passport stamp must indicate 60 days of authorized stay), you fill in a form and provide the form + passport + departure card + copies + a passport photo + 1900 Baht, and your extension for 30 days is settled without leaving the country. Usually ready immediately or the next morning. It is advisable to collect the form the day before, because then you know what to fill in (don't forget the back). As with other immigration matters, this is best done at the larger Immigration offices (Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Chiang Mai).
Be careful, you must leave the country after 90 days at the latest, for example with a 'visa run' or with a cheap plane ticket (for a short stay in Malaysia or Singapore, for example, you do not need a visa). There MUST be a stamp in your passport that proves that you have actually left Thailand. When you enter Thailand again (by land or at an airport) you will receive the following 60 days from your Tourist Visa, which you can then extend in Thailand for another 30 days. Please note that the 3rd activation takes place before the expiry date of the Tourist Visa! (It is stated on the visa at 'Valid until'.)
Question 3: What details do I have to fill in for a travel plan with the Tourist Visa application at the embassy or consulate?
Don't make a big deal out of that. First of all, keep in mind that you are not allowed to stay in Thailand for more than 60+30 = 90 days without interruption. You have already planned the first exit (after eg 88 or 89 days) with a return booking; see question 1. For the following exits you can only enter similar data as planning, eg with country + capital, with a limited number of days of local residence. To avoid questions about visas for those countries, I would fill in Malaysia or Singapore, because you don't need a visa for that. What you will actually do later is irrelevant to the application.
Also make sure you have proof of income and bank accounts with you, as that is one of the most important requirements, plus proof of health insurance (including Thailand coverage), another increasingly important point. And you will have to make it plausible why you want to stay in Thailand for so long (e.g. gain inspiration for your work, experience the culture up close, etc.), and that you will not carry out illegal practices in any way, e.g. work from Thai hands bump! Be prepared for sometimes in-depth questions, especially at the embassy. The consulate is better.
Your visa is valid for 6 months from issue, if you then go abroad again, you can never get three extensions. And certainly not if you take out 90d every time
Mathematically speaking, that is correct, but you have to take that into account. So, for example, leave the country before the expiry of the second maximum period of 60+30= 90 days, and in any case return within the 6-month period of the 'general' validity period of the visa.
In other words: the second 90-day term cannot be used in full (for a short stay abroad), but eg 80 days or so thereof. That is very easy to calculate yourself. This restriction obviously does NOT apply if you always take a visa run or a 'same-day return flight' to another country. After all, you will return to Thailand the same day and can then stay in Thailand for the maximum period of 3 x (60 + 30) days.
But beware, the 3rd entry MUST ALWAYS take place within 6 months of validity! That may be on the very last day.
Best
is the only solution. you request 3 entries. afterwards you go to a neighboring country, to the Thai embassy and buy 3 entries back there. done. that rule of 90 d in 180 d only applies to extensions, not to legal new entries. 1 month before your 3 entries expire, go to the local visa offices, and they will arrange a trip to Maileisie or something. For example, take a trip to another country, go to the Thai embassy in that country and you're done. w
It is not as simple as you make it seem. There is not a single embassy or consulate that will give you a second triple entry. And then you suggest going to Malaysia, they don't even issue a double entry there and I I should know because I was there last month. The country where you have the best chance that the Thai embassy will give you a double entry is Laos. But a triple entry ... forget that, you will never get it a second time