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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Where can I go in Thailand to draw up a rental contract?
Dear readers,
I am building a house in Thailand. I want to live there for the rest of my life in the future. The house will be in my girlfriend's name.
Now no one can see into the future, you read something again, about farang who are evicted after a few years, when the love is over. I would like to avoid that if possible.
Now I've been looking for a legal person for a while who can draw up a kind of rental contract for me. But my searches have yielded no results.
Maybe there are people here on TB with the same problem and have a solution for it.
I'd like to know. Distance is no problem as long as it yields something.
Regards,
computing
I understand from the text that the house is not yet finished and is not yet registered in your girlfriend's name.
If you want some certainty now, you can test this by proposing to your girlfriend that the land will be in her name, the house in your name (this separation is possible in Thailand), together with a lease for the land for x years .
You can see from the response whether it makes sense to continue searching for a legal form that suits you and is consistent. Better to have some friction now than without a roof later.
The advice of foreigners is often: do not invest more than you can afford to lose. After all, in Thailand, being right and being right are not always the same thing.
Good luck.
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From the text I gather that the house is not yet finished and that it has not yet been registered in your girlfriend's name.
You may be able to test whether the following construction is acceptable to your girlfriend before looking for a suitable legal form for you:
– the land is registered in the name of your girlfriend, and you rent it, paying in advance for x years;
– the house is in your name (ownership land and building can be separated in Thailand);
– the right of use of the house and land for you and your girlfriend is arranged separately.
In time, you can transfer the house to your girlfriend.
Rather some friction now than homeless later.
You often hear this advice among foreigners: do not invest more than you can afford to lose. This is because being right and being right are different things here.
Good luck.
In a better stationery store, pre-printed agreements are for sale, including for purchase/sale and also for rent/rental. Everything is in Thai on one side and English on the other.
There is no point in having it drawn up, Thai lawyers and notaries are absolutely no contract experts.
If you do have that done, have it translated properly into English so that you absolutely know what you are drawing.
I have experienced it myself that people wanted me to sign for a contract that is at least gray in the Netherlands. For example, what you encounter is a sentence in which you agree to leave the property as soon as there is a rent dispute. The Supreme Court of Thailand long ago ruled that this is not necessary. But yes, a contract is a contract.
Another possibility is a sample rental contract (Google) in Dutch and then have it translated into Thai by a sworn translator. Do not forget to have the document provided with the necessary stamps, etc. The translator knows all about this.
Success!
A house in Thailand will never become your own. There is no point in having a contract drawn up. There are apartments that you can put in your name yourself. So I hope the love is real.
with fri gr
JR
A lease contract or long-term rental contract must always be registered with the land office, you immediately pay the tax for the number of years that you lease or rent.
We draw up a lease or rental contract ourselves. but renter or lease has no protection whatsoever.
BV, which is common, you have a lease contract with your girlfriend for 30 years with an option for another 30 years. You both live there. She can't kick you out with relationship problems, but that's also the case the other way around. But she has much stronger assets to make your life miserable by taking her entire family into her home.
You will then leave after a while and she can sell everything.
Only safe construction is, nothing in the name of your girlfriend, possibly. company without family members in it and register the house in the company.
I also bought 2 houses myself and also come into the company without my girlfriend becoming part of it and I have been living with her for almost 8 years. We make the companies themselves as well as the annual reports.
Think carefully before you start and first make it clear to her how you want to do it, if you have already started and then you want to make a contract or something, it is often accompanied by many obstacles, but there is also a breach of trust at that point, logical if the same thing happened to you.
You can also make an agreement between your girlfriend and yourself and have it registered at the city hall, which is just as safe as with a notary or lawyer, I think even better. This way you save costs at the land office and if there are problems and you are evicted, you can go to court with that registration and claim your share.
You can also, for example, give your girlfriend a mortgage on the house, register with the land office and therefore your girlfriend can never sell the house without your intervention. Tip, make a mortgage deed high enough so that you would never lose money.
My girlfriend does all those things, also arranges everything at the land office, city hall, etc.
If you want to know more, just email this blog to ask for my email address.
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House absolutely in your own name and the land in the name of a friend with a lease agreement for, for example, 30 years.
or with the lawyer the land in the name of div. persons.
I do think it is important to say in which part of Thailand you are building.
Good luck and be careful.
LOUISE
An acquaintance of mine has a house in the name of his girlfriend/wife. After two murder attempts (hit by car by woman and attempted poisoning) he left. Tried to get half of the value of the house and car...unfortunately. Total damage approximately 15 million baht. But there are also good women, don't want to discourage you...
Success!
There is only 2 possibilities to be sure that when your relationship is over that you can continue to live in that house, that is:
-FRUIT CONSUMPTION in a purchase contract, that means when your relationship is over, she has to leave the house and you can continue to live there.
– have a lease contract drawn up that means you lease your wife's house and land for ten years.
G'day Compuding,
maybe this will help you.
They are affordable and are regarded as reliable.
I've done it myself and I'm satisfied.
http://www.sunbeltasia.com/
success.
It is best to have a rental contract drawn up by a good lawyer with the options that are important to you, I did the same and had a contract drawn up according to my wishes by a lawyer in Kalasin, this lawyer is very reliable and knowledgeable, it contract cost me 2000 Bath, which does not outweigh the costs in case of a problem.
best regards, and good luck,
Peter Smith
Not a chance. If you have invested enough and the woman wants you out of her house, you just leave. All the stories about me nothing can happen, etc. is nonsense. If there are problems involving a lot of money or an expensive house, they will buy your just a lawyer. Every year hundreds of Farangs lose their money and goods to these greedy women. And indeed you are always visa dependent, so if there are problems with your visa you can simply return to the Netherlands penniless. This is the real truth. Construction contracts all fake representations. Never correct. And above all, watch out for mediators and those with better knowledge.
Guys, let's not call each other pussy. If you end up alone in your house and your (ex) wife's family wants it, they will get it. You just get bullied. Then it's better to just pack your bags and disappear. As stated in the first response; don't invest more than you can afford to lose. A Thai with a lawyer will always beat a farang with a lawyer. Good luck.
Gerry, very good advice!
Foreigners cannot buy a house in Thailand! There is also never certainty of residence.
Your visa can be revoked at any time and you can always be refused entry at the border. So enjoy this beautiful country while you are allowed. If you do buy a detached house, think of it as a gift to your loved one. And hope that you can live there for a long time with her and with her permission.
Here's another horror article before going to sleep:
http://meebal.com/is-it-safe-for-a-foreigner-to-marry-a-thai/
Eugene,
I thought I read it wrong. You write that it is not possible to buy a house as a foreigner, but you warn the person who does it anyway. So…. is it possible or is it not possible according to you?
In any case, I agree that you should see it as a kind of great gift. If you die early or leave for the Netherlands, you can't take it with you anyway and at the moment selling it isn't really recommended. I see that in my neighborhood, where people have been trying to sell their house for two years.
Burning all the ships behind you, spending millions of Baht on a house or piece of land, which will never really become your property, is not exactly smart.
The stories of bad Thai women who throw their (ex) husband out or have them killed, always like to circulate and I think this also happens. Only in my area I see a lot of marriages or people living together, where things are just going well. People who have been together for years. That is also possible.
There are a few books available in Thailand about a private detective who lived here in Thailand for years and has investigated quite a few cases. If I were you, I would read them first.
Think that the house in your girlfriend's name gives her all the rights where you no longer have any say, you can buy a flat in your name and is a much better option.
Kind regards, Bakker
I read here that you can simply buy an apartment in your own name, that's right, but legally you also become part owner in the company of the entire building. So if something goes wrong somewhere, you as the owner are jointly liable.
A condominium consists of a company, you buy an apartment and also part of the company, which is then a kind of VvE (homeowners' association). If condo is under construction and building contractor goes bankrupt they come to you asking for more money for finishing the condominium. If the condominium collapses, you as the owner are jointly liable for the damage and consequential damage.
So even when buying a condo there are still some disadvantages and unforeseen costs.
Incidentally, with the Asia agreements between 10 countries as it stands now, a foreigner can own 70% of a company. All this is about to happen in 2015.
Is there anyone who has a lot of time and desire to draw up a rental / rental contract in Thai and translated into Dutch?
Because what do you do with an English translation if you are Dutch and your English is bad?
Yes, have it translated by a sworn translator, but it would still be easy for many Dutch people who struggle with the same problem.
Thanks in advance,
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