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Home » Reader question » Reader question: My brother-in-law's taxi is not insured, how is that possible?
Dear readers,
My brother-in-law drives his own taxi in Bangkok. It's an old car that the insurance company won't insure. Now he has gone through his brake, I think too little maintenance. He had a collision through his own fault and the damage to the other car 30.000 baht.
Now I wonder, then there are a lot of cars on the road that are not insured. I think it's a strange story that you can't insure and still drive a taxi. Who can tell more about this?
Regards,
Hans
Simple: if uncle agent arrests the Thai, the Thai pays 200 baht to uncle agent.
I once sat next to a young lady in the car who was speeding down the highway in BKK at 130km/h… uninsured! In addition to the monthly car payments, she could not afford to pay the insurance premium.
And met several ladies who didn't have a driver's license... no problem, have 200 baht ready.
I was recently with a Taxi-meter taxi driver WITH such a nice diploma on the front left of the dashboard in the car, when we were stopped by (nowadays very common) a team of cops and soldiers together.
The taxi driver's driver's license turned out to have expired for more than a year. If the army checks, there is no cheating and after filling out many papers, the (almost crying) driver had to pay 500 baht. Strangely enough we were allowed to continue (still had 120 km.). Man spent the rest of the time nagging at my head about his "bad luck".
They just rent the taxis per day, and they are not asked anything else by the rental company. This is Thailand.
I don't think this is a specific Thai problem at all. I wouldn't want to give them a living, those who hit the road in Belgium and the Netherlands without insurance and/or without a driver's license. How is that possible?
Yes, but you can't get away with 200 bht. I assume, not sure without research, that the problem in Thailand is slightly bigger than in Belgium and the Netherlands.
If you have a means of transport in the Netherlands (car, bus, truck, delivery van, motorcycle, etc.) with a registered number plate, it is quite simple.
1. No road tax -> reminder afterwards FINE via RDW is 3 times unpaid installment or installments.
2. No Insurance –> Reminder via RDW showing that you are insured. If not insured FINE via RDW.
You can suspend the license plate (per 3 months). Are you caught with a suspended motor vehicle DRIVING on public roads. Paying everything 3 times + that you still have to pay the insurance with the risk that the insurance company will expel you.
Hi Hans,
My counter question is actually: Did you find out the damage yourself or just heard it said?
It could also be a variant of the 'a sick (holy) cow story'…..
Regards Joy
The question is actually why the insurance refuses to insure him, they say the car is too old
How is that possible ???
That can be done very easily, just get in your car and drive, is no problem and the car runs just as well whether it is with or without insurance, and that is not only possible in Thailand but that is possible worldwide, UNTIL???
Yes, if something happens you have the puppets dancing and these people must of course be properly punished and pay for the damage to a third party. Only if there are also seriously injured people or even fatalities, then the problem is incalculable.
So I hope for your brother - in - law that he can work for the other party for the first few years to compensate him .
The wages are low, but for 30,000 baht damage you don't even have to work for years in Thailand….
Hence: In Thailand (and many other countries) a dashcam in the front and back of the car, to record everything, then you have some evidence as a car owner who has been hit by a car. As a Farang you are already at a disadvantage anyway. And not the first time that "uncle cop" or other suddenly appearing bystanders make a deal with the person who caused the damage, you're completely screwed. Video films sometimes help to refresh memories (if the memory card or the entire camera is not confiscated by "uncle cop" for "illegal" ..
In 2561 please no more "monkey sandwich" story.
Call your verz.company, they will arrange it on site.
Your uncle is indeed insured, because without insurance he cannot pay his annual road tax vignette, and without this vignette he will be caught at every checkpoint.
Now it is indeed very possible that no insurance company wants to insure him. It's also not necessary. Because most likely he has what the Thais colloquially call Por Ror Bor insurance. This costs a maximum of 645.21 Baht
This is a compulsory insurance that only reimburses damage to third parties and passengers. So no physical damage
This insurance can be obtained from the local Tramsport Office.
The car inspection (200 Baht), because every car older than 7 years must be inspected every year before you can pay your road tax. And the car will not be inspected if you do not have Por Ror Bor.
Most auto dealers also sell Por Ror Bor insurance.
I also have my strong doubts that an insurance company will not insure his car because it is too old. Up to the age of 15, you can still take out first class insurance, including 24/7 road assistance, although with a deductible of 5000 Baht at your own fault. Then there are other formulas that compensate for the material damage.
Well, what Henry says makes perfect sense.
Without the 2561 leaf, he will fall through the basket at every check.
He only receives the road tax sheet if the car has been inspected (it is older than 7 years) and insurance has been paid (Por For Bor is the cheapest)
Perhaps there are other reasons for TAXIs.
I think that your brother-in-law thought he was being smart (in Thai style) by not paying and thus gaining an advantage. Now this is very negative and that will teach him. But don't give money now, or he'll never learn.
Gerrit
Taxis may not be older than a number of years. If they are older than that number of years, they are no longer allowed to drive as a taxi. This car will therefore be over this number of years and can therefore no longer be insured as a taxi. I got this information from a taxi driver.
henry ,::Your uncle is indeed insured, because without insurance he cannot pay his annual road tax vignette, and without this vignette he will be caught at every checkpoint.:::
Running into the lamp at every checkpoint ?? Drive a car here for 10 years and quite a few kilometers, but in all that time I have had 1 checkup .::
::Now it is indeed quite possible that no insurance company wants to insure him. Nor is it necessary. Because most likely he has what the Thai commonly call Por Ror Bor insurance. This costs a maximum of 645.21 Baht::::: Also for some Thais, that 645 Baht is too much and they prefer to spend that money on other things..
:::: The car inspection (200 Baht), because every car older than 7 years must be inspected every year before you can pay your road tax. And the car will not be inspected if you do not have Por Ror Bor. :::
Do you really believe that every car over 7 years goes to the inspection here ??? If so, I suspect it's the local school for the blind...
Imagine that many people are drunk, without a driver's license and without insurance and driving around in a very dangerous car that you would not like to have an accident with.
Hank,
What Henry says is as it should be and everyone knows that a Thai is under it.
But once he comes home from a cold fair and that is exactly what the letter writer means.
And I only hope that Hans (the writer) does not give that brother-in-law any money, otherwise he will never learn.
Hans, let your brother-in-law know as quickly as possible that he is not following the traffic rules in Thailand. His vehicle is too old for insurance to continue to serve as a taxi. Hence the refusal to issue an insurance certificate for the vehicle, under the name "taxi". This does not prevent your brother-in-law from having the vehicle insured under "private use passenger car", but then he can no longer provide a taxi service with that vehicle.
By the way, I wouldn't like to be in your brother-in-law's shoes if he had a fatal collision, especially since there is already talk of it.... going through the brakes, due to too little or no maintenance.
Or how irresponsible you must be to risk the lives of others with such a wreck.
Well tired, there my clog breaks.
Or is there still a place available in the Bangkok hotel.
Regards Dre