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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Can I still rent a scooter in Jomtien without a motorcycle license?
Dear readers,
I have been coming to Jomtien for years and always rent a scooter for convenience. Am 60 and unfortunately do not have a motorcycle license. Is it still possible to rent a scooter or is this no longer possible due to stricter police checks?
Hear stories that renting is no longer possible and if you are arrested you will not only receive a ticket for not having the correct driver's license, but also a scooter seizure. I think the landlord will make a good cost of that.
Hope to hear some clarity from readers who have experience with this.
Thank you in advance for this.
Regards,
Tonjani
You will definitely find a place where you can rent a scooter without a valid motorcycle license, but keep in mind that you are not insured and that your health insurance does not have to pay out in the event of an accident, regardless of any damage caused to third parties for which you also are liable. In addition, it is of course also not allowed in Thailand to drive a scooter without a valid driver's license.
Why this incorrect information again and again?
Dutch health insurance simply pays out.
Please state the source of your information. Where exactly does it say that an insurer will simply pay out if you do not comply with the law?
Dutch legislation contains the rules for (basic) health insurance, including minimum coverage and permitted exclusions. For example, look here, https://www.zorgpremies.nl/polisvoorwaarden.html
'Breaking the law' is not a permitted exclusion for health insurance, but driving without a driver's license, for example, may be an exclusion for car or travel insurance.
This concerns the conditions of the annual health insurance in the Netherlands. The questioner is staying in Thailand at that time and has – if he is sensible – travel insurance. And they will not reimburse if you knowingly do not have a driver's license. The insurance of the moped (sorry: motorcycle) in Thailand will not pay the damage if you do not have a driver's license.
It is not clear to me why someone would drive a motorcycle in a foreign country without a driver's license. Apart from fines, the misery is incalculable in the event of a serious accident. Where you often get the short end of the stick as a farang anyway.
It is a widespread misunderstanding that “as a farang you often get the short end of the stick”. Business is simply settled through insurance. It is certainly not the case that a Thai has an automatic advantage. It is true that, certainly with limited damage, a richer person will financially spare a poor scooter rider - at least that is the mores in Buddhism.
In addition, you also have a category of Thai that drives around on an uninsured vehicle and is too poor to pay anything at all.
Well, it is something, such a third world country….
True, travel insurance will not reimburse, but health insurance will. In addition, Thailand's compulsory liability insurance will also pay, albeit that coverage is very limited in amounts and only for medical expenses/disability/death.
Plus as Jasper says, 'as a foreigner you often get the short end of the stick' is not correct.
Agree with you that riding a motorcycle without experience is not a good idea, especially in Thailand where this is already difficult enough due to the crowds and the apparent lack of naan rules.
Driving without a motorcycle license is simply illegal and stupid.
I would honestly be embarrassed to ask this. I got a motorcycle license in Thailand and it really didn't cost much. 500 baht! Saves everything… from a fine for not having a valid driver's license to getting help in the event of an accident from your insurance, which is 100% guaranteed not to do that if you don't have it!
I got my Thai motorcycle license last month, in Chaam. I have taken the full exam with the tests, the (in Thai language) instructional videos, the theory and practical exam. To my utter surprise, this only cost me 110 baht. I think they lowered the price to make the threshold as low as possible for the Thai people.
Hello Peter,
I'm going to Cha-am again this year. I would like to know where you can get that driver's license and what do I need?
I now buy an international driving license from the ANWB every year.
Yours faithfully,
Adam de Jong
You're 60 and you don't (still) realize that renting/driving around with a means of transport for which you don't have a driver's license is just stupid?
Practice your theory here (I haphazardly copied some links, so there must be some overlap):
- https://chiangmaibuddy.com/thai-driving-license-exam-test-questions/
- http://thaidriving.info/
- https://www.thethailandlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/thai-driving-theory-test-1.pdf
- https://www.thethailandlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/thai-driving-theory-test-2.pdf
- https://www.thethailandlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/thai-driving-theory-test-3.pdf
More info:
- https://www.thethailandlife.com/learning-to-drive-in-thailand
Make sure you have all the necessary papers (googling).
Register here as early as possible in the morning and for probably 200 baht you will have your driver's license in the afternoon.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/12%C2%B058'07.9%22N%20100%C2%B058'19.2%22E
(next to Regent's School)
Do bring your 'moped'. I was stopped on the way to the exam, told I was on my way to get my driver's license… and was allowed to continue without any problems.
More info:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g293915-c133830/Thailand:Driving.License.Requirements.html
https://libertytotravel.com/get-thai-motorbike-drivers-license-tourist-visa-without-license-home-country/
Is that also possible if you don't live in Thailand, but are on holiday?
One of the required forms is the Certificate of Residence to be issued by Immigration, which you will not receive as a short-stay tourist.
Think it's a good thing. Cannot rent anything for which you are not authorized. You notice it on the road and the scooter rental companies do not rent anything. Also great to be able to rent out a scooter on a passport. His motorcycles that drive over 120.
Why not just provide the right papers? You are old enough to know that what should not be punished. And they should certainly continue to monitor this very strictly now. Papers / age / drink / drugs. Something amiss: to punish immediately, and not with only 1000 Bath.
What driver's license are we talking about.
I only have a car driver's license (B) and that includes your moped license (AM, 50 cc).
Now most mopeds in SE Asia have more cylinder capacity than in NL with its 50 cc and A driving license.
Are you talking about a motorcycle license (A, A1 or A2) that you transfer via your international driving license? Or does my Dutch driving license also suffice?
Thailand has no 'mopeds'. Your Dutch driving license is not sufficient. Simple, but time and time again this is not understood.
I think it's more not "wanting" to understand.
Do you like a bit of adventure Tonjani , and would you like to get acquainted with the work of the Thai police .
And know what a Thai hospital looks like inside after a scooter accident.
And do you have enough money to pay the hospital bill and fines, because the travel insurance does not work.
The moped or scooter rental company will also be very enthusiastic with you upon your return to the rental company, of course after the arrest.
Just do highly recommended.
YOU FIND OUT.
Jan Beute.
I rent a moped in Jomtien three times a year. I am never asked for my driver's license but… I am stopped on the street at least once a week to show my international driver's license. That's what I get in Belgium anyway when showing my Belgian driver's license. Simple anyway.
Emiel is the only one who answers the question. I see so many who can't resist giving their heartfelt advice on risk without directly answering the question. So it turns out to be possible and I was amazed that I can just buy a car without being asked for my driver's license.
The fact that you can (unfortunately still) rent a motorcycle and that the Thai police allow themselves to be bluffed with an international car driver's license offers no guarantee whatsoever for compensation for any physical or material damage if an accident occurs.
And even though you can still drive a moped very well, there are road users here who are less able and/or have no insurance whatsoever. And then usually also (financially) very similar to a bald chicken.
In short, if you like gambling: your chances of losing are quite high in my opinion.
Of course you can, also in the Netherlands and Belgium and, as far as I know, anywhere in the world. You do not need a driver's license to buy a car.
nowadays your driver's license says AM motorcycle driver's license that is up to 50 cc here in the Netherlands, but that's not on your driver's license, if you are going to get an international driver's license, the ANWB puts 50 cc behind it I don't know if you can get away with it, but who knows . getting a motorcycle license in Thailand seems the most sensible to me, prevention is better than cure !!!! have fun in thailand.
Every time many indignant reactions how someone gets it into their heads to rent a motorcycle in Thailand without having a valid driver's license. Yes, in principle these reactions are justified, but because those motorcycles in Thailand are much more like a scooter as we know them in the Netherlands, I actually quite understand that many, partly given the fact that you were never put in the way by a hair's breadth the lessor, opt for the 'freedom' of own transport. To be honest, I have done that myself for years, not thinking about the possible consequences of a collision, which fortunately has always been spared me. Always rented a 'scooter' with 125 cc, which certainly did not reach speeds of more than 120 km per hour as Eduard claims. Drove it to the beach, restaurants and bars, hospital checkups, Big C, etc. All limited distances and moderate speeds. Was also sometimes stopped by the police, but after showing my international driver's license, of course without the required stamp on the section A, I was always allowed to continue driving without further restrictions. Now I don't want to argue my behavior well, but on the other hand the risks, which are always present, should not be made greater than they are. From my own point of view, given my experience riding a moped and scooter, I think I am quite adept with such a Thai motorcycle. The risk is therefore more financial in the event of an unexpected involvement in a collision. It is remarkable that many reactions are about obtaining a Thai motorcycle license. Given the many entries in the past on Thailand Blog, in which it was reported that the Thai driver's license is not much in principle, it seems to me that it is better to talk about collecting it instead of obtaining it. Yes, that driver's license comes in handy for the financial consequences of a collision, but in fact riding a motorcycle with a driver's license but without experience is also irresponsible. Incidentally, I have not been traveling in Thailand by motorcycle for several years, at least not driven by me. Transport takes place by car or motorbike taxi.
There is still persistent talk by a few about a moped. Mopeds as we know them in the Netherlands are rare in Thailand.
What is offered for rent in Thailand is a motorcycle according to the law. Need a Thai motorcycle license, or a valid Dutch motorcycle license plus an international driving license Anwb.
If you do not have the above papers and you cause an accident with injury, then the misery is incalculable. Travel insurance does not cover the damage. It is also a good idea to read your policy to see whether motorcycling in Thailand is covered at all by your insurance and is not excluded as a dangerous sport.
Let the discussion begin again! Renting a motobike is always possible, provided you pay.
What the consequences are, that has been discussed to death on this forum.