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Home » Reader question » Reader question: How can I also register a Dutch marriage in Thailand?
Dear readers,
I recently saw a question about registering a marriage concluded in Thailand in the Netherlands. I would like to know how it is if it is the other way around?
I will soon get married in the Netherlands with my Thai partner. We live in the Netherlands. How can we register our marriage in Thailand? Does that go through the Thai embassy in the Netherlands?
Should we do this in Thailand at her residence? Who knows the correct answer?
Thank you in advance.
adje
Dear Adje,
I've done this myself.
– You go to your municipality and ask for an English extract of your marriage certificate with the stamp and signature of your municipality.
– Then you go to the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs in The Hague for legalization. A signature and stamp is also placed here.
– Then you go to the Thai embassy for legalization. Again a stamp and signature.
– Then you take this with you to Thailand
– In Thailand, you have the English deed translated into Thai by a sworn translator. These can often be found at the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The translator will stamp the translation so that you can prove that it is a translation by a sworn translator.
– Then you go to the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs for legalization. Be on time because you will lose a day there waiting for your turn. They also put a stamp here.
– Then you go to the ampur (or town hall) where your wife is registered. You can register your marriage here. You need 2 witnesses to sign for this.
All in all quite an undertaking but if you follow these steps it should work.
Good luck
Hello Addie,
First of all, you need to collect an international extract of your marriage certificate from your municipality. You must then have this legalized at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in The Hague, this can be done from Monday to Friday without an appointment. You then go with this extract and a copy of both passports and a copy of the marriage booklet to the Thai embassy in The Hague to have it legalized, this can also be done without an appointment and the document will then be neatly sent to the address provided. Then you go to Thailand with this. When you arrive in Thailand, you must first take these papers to the immigration office at the airport for a check and a stamp. Finally, you go with everything to the immigration office in the place or province where you live for entry in the Thai books. Takes a bit of time but then you'll get it done.
Good luck Somchai
Dear Adje,
To register your marriage in Thailand, you must do the following:
1) Apply for an international marriage certificate from your municipality
2) have it legalized at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
3) Then have the marriage certificate legalized at the Thai Embassy in The Hague.
You can skip this step (3), but then you have to go to the embassy in Bkk for legalization.
4) in Bkk you have to go to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and there you have translation agencies to translate your marriage certificate into Thai
5) then you have to have both deeds legalized on the 2-3 floor of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs there. The person who helps you with the translation will also help you and indicate where you need to be for legalization on Buza.
You first come to a supervisor who will check everything whether you have all the papers with you. You will then receive a serial number for handing in the papers at the counter.
You can usually get the legalized papers back immediately, but it is also possible that you can pick up the papers the next day.
6) With the new package of papers you can go to your partner's "ampur" and hand it in there.
I would ask for a printout of the register. This may come in handy if you need a visa or similar in the Netherlands for a longer stay at the embassy.
Succes
Willem
Best advice I think, call Thai embassy? Better than asking/receiving information here?
May I take the opportunity to post a related question here on the forum.
I married my Thai partner in NL, but the legalization in TH failed at the time. I have never been bothered by it in TH, otherwise I would have done it anyway.
Only, sometimes I am asked (eg at the bank) whether or not I am married. At such a moment I am not sure what to answer: it is “yes” according to NL law and it is “no” according to TH law.
I usually say “no” because I assume that without legalization here in TH we would be considered “not married”.
Is this the correct answer?
RichardJ, are you married or not if someone asks you?
Simple, you said it yourself, you are married in the Netherlands, so the answer to the question whether you are married is always yes.
The fact that you have not yet registered the Dutch marriage in Thailand is irrelevant.
You can open an account in 1 name at a bank; You can also open in 2 names and then choose between one and/or account (one of the two may perform all actions, except to cancel the account) or a joint account (both must sign for each action).
Whether you are married or not is irrelevant. but if you get that question, then the answer is yes.
Nico B
NicoB, thank you for your reply.
I'm concerned about legal status. With registration in TH, will the legal status of a NL marriage be different than without registration?
Read, for example, the reactions of Somchai (on 13 Dec at 15.09) and Adje (on 13 Dec at 21.21). What I conclude from their responses is that your marriage must be registered in TH to get a visa extension on a marriage basis of 400.000 baht instead of 800.000 baht.
And what about the Thai tax authorities? Without registering, would you be eligible for the partner's tax deduction?
what adje says is indeed correct, i did it 4 months ago, only we brought the papers we had ready from the netherlands to an office here in phuket, they sent it to bangkok in 6 days, everything ready for 3500 baht.
What you must/can do in the Netherlands is already clearly described.
I had the Thai shop done by the translation agency opposite the Dutch Embassy, who also arrange the correct stamps.
Then to the Ampur with 2 witnesses and done.
Level
Cor Verkerk
I think this is a good idea instead of going everywhere yourself. Thanks for the tip.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of such a registration?
1 advantage I can think of is the possibility to get an extension of residence based on marriage.
Perhaps the advantage is that you only need to have 400.000 bath in the bank instead of 800.000 if you want to settle in Thailand?
I don't know if it's still the same now, but I wrote an article about it. It describes how things used to be with us at the time.
https://www.thailandblog.nl/ingezonden/huwelijk-nederland-thailand-ingeschreven/
I actually have a question in reverse. I would like to marry my Thai girlfriend by the end of 2015 under Thai law and then have the marriage legalized in Belgium. However, I'm still working so I can't stay in Thailand for too long. That is why I thought to apply for all the documents here in Belgium and then give them to my girlfriend at the end of September (provided that her visa is approved for July – September). Then she can arrange the paper mill there, including the “no impediment to marriage” document to be delivered by the embassy and have all the necessary documents translated for the amphur. Is that possible or do all documents have to be arranged by myself on site? That would be annoying because of the valid period of maximum 6 months. Moreover, it is never certain whether the embassy actually wants to arrange the document within a few days or whether they believe that an investigation must first be carried out in Belgium.