Dear readers,
I am going on holiday to Thailand on July 11. But now it comes I'm completely worn out and therefore have to take intense pain medication to make life somewhat bearable!
- Oxycodone fast-acting about 100 Mg per day plus minus 220 pcs
- Oxycodone controlled release 30 Mg x 4 st per day plus minus 90 st
- Temazepam 20 Mg, otherwise hardly sleep 1 per day 30 pcs
- Diazepam 5 Mg for the muscles 2 pcs per day is approximately 60 pcs
Now comes the next thing I called www.hetCak.nl because I don't feel like looking at the Bangkok Hilton! I called the Thai embassy in the Netherlands how to solve this?
Now the Thai man said read page 2 of what you have been emailed, then everything is clear to you you don't have to come to The Hague or whatever else all you have to do is contact the drug administration! No sooner said than done, but according to Cak.nl I have to have the papers with my specialist's statement stamped with them and then to foreign affairs, and then to the Thai embassy for a stamp?
Who oh who has experience with this because I really don't remember? Plus it gets pretty tight! Plus I have a transfer in Dubai and depart from Düsseldorf.
The link I got from the Thai embassy is permitfortraveler.fda.moph.go.th
You can fill in everything here and add attachments, for example, a letter with your medication use, etc., but it is now absolutely not clear to me whether this is sufficient and whether I now have to go through the steps as described by www.hetcak.nl, especially because the man from the Thai embassy said that I absolutely did not have to come to The Hague!
And well, I live near the German border, Apeldoorn, then you understand that if the office hours as indicated are from 9 a.m. to 12 p.m., but that is purely getting a stamp, then on to Foreign Affairs that takes at least 1 hour. And is also from 9 am to 12 pm and the Thai Embassy is also open from 9 am to 12 pm for this kind of business! So to save this in 1 day seems almost impossible to me!
Plus I haven't been on vacation for almost 10 years due to the pain I have and was already in really bad shape, but much more because of this turn of events because I don't want to make a mistake. And don't do anything illegal.
I hope someone knows how I should proceed now because I now have a form in English and they indicated that I had to stand / report in the red area in Bangkok. Plus how do you transport the medication? In your hand luggage or in your suitcase?
I really hope someone here on this great knowledge forum knows how to trade?
For everyone who thinks along or has ideas in stock, my heartfelt thanks!
Best regards,
Geert
Time is running out, so speed is key.
This is a site where you can look:
http://narcotic.fda.moph.go.th/welcome/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/table-PHYCHO-list-update-21.12.2015.pdf
I do not come across oxycodone, temazepam is cat II and diazepam cat IV and the conditions FOR THAILAND for medical use are a maximum of one month and a letter from the treating physician, no pharmacist's note or medicine passport.
So I would follow the rules of the CAK exactly and not only for Thailand: also for Germany and Dubai. Someone in the Arab region was recently jailed for taking codeine, an opiate, 'in transit'.
Given the strict rules, I wonder if you shouldn't reconsider this holiday and find a place in the EU.
An additional rule applies to Dubai: a full medical report must be included.
http://www.dubai.ae/en/Lists/HowToGuide/DispForm.aspx?ID=6
We go to Thailand every year and then just have a medicine passport with the name of the medicine. Dose and what it is for. It has never been asked for and the medicines are simply in the hand luggage.
I think you are worrying about nothing. You yourself say that you are completely worn out, so I assume that you are not the youngest anymore. Do you really think that they are going to take an elderly man's medicine and lock you up ? I have been coming here for 12 to 3 months for 5 years and sometimes bring 500 pills that I have to take daily.
I have NEVER been asked a question about this!
Don't be scared and leave without any headaches !!
Ron
I had the names of my medicines printed out by the pharmacy and signed by the GP… I visit Asia regularly (8 times a year).
Have never had any problem.
It is for your own use...your name is on the packaging... you don't import anything.
Do not ask customs on arrival where you have to register the medicines, because they will think so
the prohibited substances (may) be.
safe journey
As always with these types of questions, you always get answers from people who have been traveling to Thailand with their medicines for years without any problems and without any documents. You can of course do that too, and you may have a good chance that it will go completely without any problems. However, the risk that you will get into trouble can never be ruled out. If you don't want to take any risks, follow Eric's good advice above. You can ask the ANWB whether they also legalize medical certificates if you do not combine this with a visa application. We had our annual visa arranged through the ANWB, including all necessary legalizations. This will save you a lot of travel time and waiting time, and you will recoup the costs because you do not have to travel to The Hague yourself. No idea if they do that, but you can always inquire. Do that immediately tomorrow, because if you get a “no” you will still have to do it yourself.
I would follow the rules closely. Oxycodone is a strong opiate. The other drugs are benzodiazepines, also problematic. In Thailand I would contact a hospital to see if the medicines can be provided there next time. Therefore, take a letter from the specialist with you. In English of course. Don't count on the empathy of the Thai authorities if all is not well.
I wish you a great holiday.
Completely agree with this. Bring a limited amount. Have your GP/specialist write down in English which medicines you are taking and why. You can then get the medicines on prescription here at a hospital. You will always have to see a doctor for this, but he will prescribe the medication after reading the letter.
Have a look here:
http://www.thaiembassy.org/madrid/contents/images/text_editor/files/guidance%20for%20travelers%20version%204.doc__e1a4.pdf
of
https://www.thethailandlife.com/thailand-drug-laws-facts-visit
The chances of you getting into trouble are smaller than being swallowed by a whale and spat out again!
Have a nice holiday !
I also use oxicodone and morphine patches. For the oxicodone I would follow the long road, these fall under the opium law. I always leave these at home and take replacement medicines with me. These help a little less, but because of the nice warm weather it goes reasonable. For the morphine plasters I have a letter in English from the doctor in the hospital. They can always contact them if in doubt. This has been going without problems for years. I hope you manage to sort this out. get it.And wish you a good journey and happy holiday.
The plague is, sorry, but I deliberately call it that, that people respond here who cannot read and cannot empathize.
Poster starts by saying that he takes very heavy medication. Poster comes here for the first time and wants to make sure he has the pills available. Maarten Vasbinder, doctor, advises him to check before his next visit whether he can get the medication here. The doctor confirms that the poster is carrying heavy stuff and that he cannot count on compassion at the border.
Do I have to tell you that in Thailand they put an old man with cancer in jail for 'lese majeste' and the man in jail died? Read up on Thailand before shouting things like this.
But then you read here 'take a medicine passport with you' and 'I have been taking pills with me for years', while those people do not consciously respond to WHAT the poster takes with them. Nor do they say what they will take with them; a pill for heartburn perhaps? And then a whale appears...
Poster will read here and I hope poster realizes that he is taking great risks in Dubai and in Bangkok.
I would try to avoid the Dubai step and take a non-stop flight.
I would like to advise the poster to check the medication according to German, Dubai and Thai law and to do exactly what the rules prescribe. The CAK is the designated institution for this and will guide you to the Thai embassy and the embassy of Dubai.
DON'T FORGET DUBAI!
Because remember, if a poster is taken in Dubai or in Bangkok, the people who respond here so easily and without explanation do not give a damn.
Plain language, Erik. Unfortunately sometimes necessary here. I know moderating a forum is a hell of a job, but maybe "advice" that could get people into serious trouble could still be banned.
Geert, please follow Erik and Maarten's advice.
Dear Eric, Gert
In my previous comment I overlooked Maarten Vasbinder's advice.
I would never go against the advice of a doctor and I would like to apologize!
Do you indeed follow Maarten's advice!
And have a good trip!