Dear readers,

I've been stuck in the Netherlands for a while now because of the corona thing. I haven't seen my Thai wife and my children in months other than via video call. That's crazy isn't it? I have been living in Thailand for more than 15 years and I also pay taxes there.

I read somewhere that the Thai government may want to make an exception for cases similar to mine. Is more known about this?

Isn't it time for the Dutch and Belgian embassy to denounce this injustice of families separated by Covid-19? This is inhuman, isn't it?

Regards,

Valorous

9 responses to “Reader question: Stuck in the Netherlands, when can I go back to my family in Thailand?”

  1. Sjoerd says up

    If you are married to a Thai, you can go back.

    Report to the Thai Embassy [email protected].

    https://www.facebook.com/richardbarrowthailand/videos/3214470321947669

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/551797439092744/?notif_id=1592470972675980&notif_t=group_r2j_approved&ref=notif

  2. jani careni says up

    There are movements but nothing official yet with expats married to a Thai national and living in Thailand, you will probably have to remain in quarantine for 14 months and (so far) have a hospitalization insurance of 100.000 dollars, July is in 10 days so just a little patience and courage because Europe is not well appreciated due to corona infections and the insurance will also be adjusted in the future.

  3. walter says up

    Dear Koen,

    I can only wish you good luck.
    It is indeed very harsh and difficult in this situation.
    I myself have also been stuck in Belgium for 5 months. (even with my ex!)
    That doesn't make it any easier.
    The only advice I can give: wait until the conditions change
    travel back on the website of the Thai Embassy.
    I can already tell you, it won't be cheap.
    After all, we are obliged to carry out the 14-day quarantine in a
    hotel, at your own expense. As well as health insurance, fit to fly certificate, covid free certificate, etc...
    More information can be found on FB. There are 2 groups created by people
    who are in the same boat. Go have a look there:
    Farangs Stranded Abroad Due to lockdown in Thailand OR
    Thai Expats Stranded Overseas due to COVID-19 Restrictions.
    Courage….!!
    Regards,

  4. fred says up

    A lot of people are in your case. You are right that little attention is paid to it. But you are not alone. I just saw a Spanish man on television with an Italian woman and they hadn't seen each other for almost 4 months.

    I hope that the first will be those with a Thai partner see family. In a sense, that should have been possible for a long time. Partners of an EU citizen with an official residence may, just like the Belgians, also fly to Belgium if they wanted to.
    Conversely, it does not seem so. Apparently Thailand also attaches less importance to marriage and family than we do here.
    Hopefully relief will come soon. In fact, this is something that should be dealt with intensely through diplomatic channels.
    I also never understood why the marriage partners of Thai nationals do not get a residence permit for a long time? As a father of a family you still have to get a visa every year and even worse you have to register every 3 months. Thailand is really an outsider in that area. Not infrequently are the countries where partners themselves acquire local nationality after 3 years of residence and marriage.

  5. John Chiang Rai says up

    Dear Koen, you are absolutely right that it is crazy that you can no longer visit your own wife and children because of this virus.
    With all the understandable lockdown measures, they could at least have made a different arrangement for the Farang who have been sharing their lives with their Thai family and husband in Thailand for years.
    The fact that they don't think this is necessary, and only allow Thai under a certain arrangement, indicates exactly in this Corona time, what many Farang have been writing about for years, and many expats still don't want to have it true.

    Even if you have lived here for 20 years, and pay your Thai tax dutifully, you will stay in Europe as a Thai spouse, just keep the status of a guest.
    A guest who with the necessary visa, required income or bank balance, even if he has been married for many years, and has mostly paid for his own accommodation, still needs to be registered from his own partner / homeowner with a TM30, otherwise it will be against the law.
    A procedure that must be repeated within 24 hours after each absence, and in fact means nothing more to your wife than to say that you are back as a legal husband.
    All things that, together with 90 days of notifications and annual visa renewal and further financial obligations, indicate that you have obligations at most, and practically no rights at all.
    From a human point of view, you should have been reunited with your family and friends a long time ago by applying a clever measure, but TIT Good luck despite everything!!

  6. albert says up

    But I do understand those who have to deal with this.
    Only when you see how the Thai government presents itself from the start in this crisis, then you are no longer surprised about it and all the consequences.
    No. Then the Netherlands, how much comment we received compared to Thailand:
    Thailand did well and you name it ,,,,,
    See the result .success and have pity on the Thai.

  7. John Hoogeveen says up

    I am in LAOS plan was April 30, 2020 back to Amsterdam from Bangkok. But you also do not cross the border from Laos to Thailand. Now I received a message from EvaAir July 4th from Bangkok to Amsterdam, but I still have to see if the flight will go ahead and if I can fly to Bangkok before July 4th or cross the border by bus to Thailand. Gr.Jan Hoogeveen

  8. Guy says up

    I also regularly follow all posts here.
    I am also legally married and we have children.
    married couples , mixed nationality , Thai / Foreigner are clearly not treated in this way in Thailand and, unless I am mistaken, do not have an adapted status.

    Personally, I believe that now is a better time to address our respective governments, especially our Ministries of Foreign Affairs, to exert appropriate pressure on the Thai government and thus obtain a statute for those people,

    There may also be international agreements on mixed marriages and the upbringing and well-being of the children born of those marriages.

    There, too, there may be something that can encourage Thailand to adapt the statutes of members of mixed marriages as such to the benefit of individuals and their children.

    I am thinking here of adjusting the visa - all necessary measures to be able as parents to guarantee the well-being and good education of children born from this marriage

    Diplomacy can certainly help here, but as we see our services do nothing without sufficient pressure.
    This subject is, of course, not of a nature to serve economic interests.
    Our governments are well aware of what is going on in Thailand and even they turn a blind eye to certain regimes in favor of ””economic interests”'.

    Europe can also help with this. So all that remains is the will and courage of those in that situation, bearing in mind that “Unity provides more power”

    Remember that most are not aware of the conditions in a country as long as it is not widely publicized.

    Let's all start together?????

    Greetings

  9. Willem says up

    Just received a message from klm: my Thai girlfriend's flight with klm on 13 July from amsterdam to bangkok has been cancelled.

    The next opportunity is September 1


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