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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Marriage in Belgium or Thailand?
Reader question: Marriage in Belgium or Thailand?
Dear readers,
As a 72 year old Belgian (widower) I wish to legally propose to my Thai girlfriend (legally divorced) of 54 years old. We have been together for 4 years and also married for Buddha for 1 year. What's the best? Getting married in Belgium or in Thailand with the agreement that she will continue to live in Thailand and I will live in Belgium.
I regularly travel to Thailand for a few months and she also comes to me for a few weeks every year.
What are the conditions for arriving at a good solution?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Willy (BE)
It is also easier to get married within another Schengen country, for example Tö der in Denmark, and have the marriage ratified in Belgium after re-translation of English-language documents and legalization in Belgium.
Sawasdee khrap,
Serge
Tönder , I meant !
if you die later and you wish your wife to be able to enjoy your pension, it is better to legally marry here and your wife should then reside permanently in belgium for 3 years.
Watch out, Willy!….If you want to marry as you propose and you continue to live in Belgium and your wife in Thailand, you will be regarded as “de facto divorced”, as a result of which half of your pension will be paid to you AND the other half to your “wife” in Thailand…This is asking for trouble, man….Think about it….
Yan
I am legally married in Thailand and have registered our marriage in Belgium. My wife also lived in Thailand at the time and I also traveled to her a few times a year. You can find the necessary documents on the diplomacy website. It wasn't really difficult but you still have to make sure that you can present the required documents. Have everything translated and legalized at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Thailand. Then went to the municipality in her hometown. The marriage was quickly consummated. Then have proof of marriage sworn translated into Dutch. With this document I went to my municipality in Belgium to register our marriage here.
I do understand that the procedure has changed a bit. Now people in Thailand will first have a conversation with both partners. I'm not sure about this though.
If you think the procedure has changed a bit, you must have been married a long time ago. Now they make it as hard as possible for you in the hope that you will give up which is what many people do.
We did it for four years and it was a real calvary. We would certainly not recommend it to anyone and would never start again ourselves. We still get sick when we think about it.
Marrying a third-country national is (still) anything but romantic. Look before you leap.
Dear, get married in Thailand and then apply for family reunification. Then you will have no more problems if she wants to come to Belgium because this will only become more difficult in the future. Make sure that you do not lose a widow's pension or the like. Grt
"Make sure you don't lose a widow's pension or anything like that." (quote)
Since when does a man receive a 'widow's pension'? Is that something new?
Family reunification questions??? Then she has to go live in Belgium and that, Willy writes herself, they don't want to do that.
Men can also receive a survivor's pension. That has been the case for many years.
Dear Willy,
I do not want to discourage you, but with this explanation I fear, and my fear is not unfounded, that your plans will meet with much opposition. It will be easier, in this case, to marry in Thailand, but whether this marriage can be legalized in Belgium is another question. The big problem is that you are not going to live together. In Belgium, the condition for a marriage is that both partners live at the same address. Apparently you don't mean that and that's where the shoe pinches. If you do not live together at an address, you are legally already 'de facto separated'. If you take this into account, there will immediately be a suspicion that it is a marriage of convenience or a marriage for certain reasons. Before you ask your girlfriend to marry you, do your research first. After all, a marriage not legalized in Belgium, concluded in Thailand, has no value in Belgium.
If a marriage is not legalized in Thailand,
How can one lose half of the pension?!.
This block is a good block!,
Masr sells a lot of crap here!
Still a bit of an odd question. So at this moment you are not yet married to your girlfriend. After all, for Buddha, being married has no legal value whatsoever. Marrying legally, but not living together afterwards, will quickly be regarded: either as a marriage of convenience (which it actually is), or as de facto divorced. Make sure to check beforehand whether you do not have to hand over part of your pension to your (legal?) partner in the latter case.
Thanks for all these responses. I take them all to heart.