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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Experience with the protective assessment
Reader question: Experience with the protective assessment
Dear readers,
I recently received the protective assessment via my correspondence address and Mijn Belastingdienst. This was followed by a letter from Heerlen explaining in detail what the attack was based on.
It also contained the conditions that I must meet in order to remain eligible for the deferral until 2026. One of those conditions was that “the deferment will also end if I move to a country that does not belong to the EU or the European Economic Area”. In other words, if I were to move to one of Thailand's neighboring countries or elsewhere in the world before 2026, I would still have to pay. There is no mention of return to the EU or the EEC.
I don't quite understand the postponement provision as described above. What is the experience of the forum members with the conservative assessment?
Regards,
Hansman
Hansman,
When I emigrated from the Netherlands to Thailand, I also received a protective assessment.
After ten years, it was released.
regards Jay.
That's not quite right. This protective assessment is not waived, but that assessment lapses by operation of law (i.e. automatically).
What happens with a protective assessment if you return to the Netherlands after, for example, 5 years in Thailand?
Do you have to pay and how much?
Please info thank you
If you return to the Netherlands, the protective assessment will no longer have any function and the assessment should lapse (assuming that you have not commuted the pension). You do not have to pay anything when you return to the Netherlands.
If you then move abroad again after a few years, you will therefore receive a new protective assessment.
Needless to say: that preserving attack makes no sense at all; it was a strange invention by Willem Vermeend at the time, without there being a need for it, since you cannot buy out a pension from any pension fund or insurance company because it is prohibited.
That's right, Joop, but buying out a pension provision in your own BV is possible with just a flick of the pen. And then the service can go after the money that has long been elsewhere. So the conservative did have a purpose.
I appreciate,
I agree with what you say, but that is precisely my criticism of that arrangement. How many cases are we talking about? There are not many people with a pension from their own BV and how many of them emigrate abroad? A huge fuss (legal regulation with a lot of administrative hassle, so a lot of implementation costs) for only a few cases.
A typical case of overkill and nonsensical legislation.
Just as an addition to the latest reactions from Erik and Joop.
A protective assessment for a substantial interest (box 2, because that's what we're talking about here, after all) still serves a purpose if you emigrated after September 15, 2015 at 15:15 p.m. (how do people think of it!). In all cases, they must settle the value of their company in the Netherlands in due course. For this group of taxpayers, the “remission” has lapsed after 10 years in the 2016 Tax Plan. We call this the “emigration leak of substantial interest holders”. In other words: even if you have been away from the Netherlands for 30 years, as a DGA / substantial interest holder you still have a tax debt in the Netherlands!
This was a shock from fiscal Netherlands that was noticed by few people, including many tax specialists!
In addition, the rule that settlement only needs to be made with a profit distribution of 90% or more also disappeared. For this group, tax must be paid (pro rata) on every profit distribution.
Of course there are alternatives that can limit the consequences of this amendment. However, it would take me too far to go into this in more detail in this context.
What also strikes me about Hansman's question and the responses to it is that not a word is said about the character of the protective attack. Does it contain:
a. a pension part;
b. an annuity part;
c. a significant interest
d. a combination of all this.
In a comment posted by Joop on November 12 at 18:56 PM, he all too easily assumes retirement, which cannot be bought off. But from nothing I can conclude that the protective assessment (only) contains a pension component.
The reader's question placed by Hansman contains too little information to be able to say anything meaningful about the protective assessment itself that he received.
Questions that then arise include:
a. what components does the preservative attack consist of;
b. was it prepared on the basis of a declaration by Hansman himself or is it an estimate by the Tax Authorities (due to the absence of a declaration);
c. In a self-declaration, sufficient account has been taken of non-taxable contributions and premiums for an annuity product which have not led to a reduction in the taxable income due to no or insufficient "annual margin";
d. Sufficient account has been taken of the judgment of the Supreme Court of July 14, 2017, in which major restrictions have been imposed with regard to the inclusion in the levy of negative expenditure on emigration in the case of annuity and pension claims in a protective assessment.
These are matters that I have absolutely no insight into and which are also difficult to deal with in a public blog, given privacy.
If questioner Hansman needs more information with regard to the above or to calculate his protective assessment, he can always contact me via my email address:
[email protected]