Dear readers,

I am married to the Thai biological mother of the 3 year old child. The Thai biological father is willing to waive his parental rights. How can I recognize this child so that I can apply for a Dutch passport at the Dutch embassy in Bangkok?

Regards,

Mark

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16 responses to “Recognizing a child as a non-biological father in Thailand”

  1. henny says up

    Contact the Dutch embassy in Bangkok. Think they have an answer.
    https://www.nederlandwereldwijd.nl/nederlandse-nationaliteit/nederlander-worden-geboorte-erkenning

  2. easier says up

    Well,

    That is not so difficult, you go to the Amphur (the Thai municipal house), together with your wife and you ask there.

    You are married, you must be married for at least 6 months.

    • Cornelis says up

      Ultimately, the Thai recognition will also have to be 'recognised' in the Netherlands in order to qualify for a passport.

    • Mark says up

      Dear laksi,

      Do you have experience with this? We have spoken to several lawyers and also called the amphur and they all say that I cannot acknowledge but can adopt. And that's a very long road that will be very, very strict and I don't think I can qualify for that at all.

      • Laksi says up

        Yes Mark,

        You are right, we also went for recognition and came home with adopting.

        An endless road, we also dropped out along the way, they say to combat child trafficking.

        Yes, sorry recognition, that is (probably) not possible in Thailand.

        I had spoken to someone and had to go to Bangkok three times and an extensive neighborhood survey, but also all family members in far corners of Thailand, were visited.

        Too long a road for us.

        • Mark says up

          But you first indicated that it shouldn't be that hard...

  3. Pete says up

    Children up to, as far as I can remember, 6 years old can be recognized, from 6 years old a DNA test is required

    • Cornelis says up

      A DNA test is irrelevant, this is not about paternity. Incidentally, there is no such test in the Dutch recognition procedure either.

      • Cornelis says up

        "In that situation" should be added to the last sentence of my response.

  4. Lung addie says up

    Dear Mark,
    Recognizing someone else's child is an exception in Thailand. In most places where you will ask this question, they won't answer you because they don't know it themselves and don't count on them looking it up for you.
    On the other hand, in the Netherlands, as in Belgium, it is actually quite simple, there is little to it. I would think about doing the procedure in the Netherlands, you still have enough time for it, as long as the hind is not 12 years old, it should not give permission for it and should not even be there.
    Just enter in GOOGLE: acknowledge a child. You will find all the legal information and what you need for that and it will show that this is not difficult. Since you can read for yourself I won't give all the necessary information this way, but it's really simple.

    • Mark says up

      Dear Lung,

      Before I post here, this is obviously not the first step I take when I start figuring something out. And yes I have also used several search engines even. I have not been able to find information about my specific situation anywhere on official government websites. If you do have those links, please share them. I even called the municipality of Amsterdam, civil affairs. And they had told me that I cannot recognize the child if the biological father is on the child's birth certificate.

      • Cornelis says up

        I also came across the latter: according to Dutch legislation, a child cannot have more than 2 legal parents, and since that legislation also does not make it possible for the biological father to renounce, recognition in NL seems to be excluded.

        • Mark says up

          It is true that you cannot have more than 2 legal parents. That is why the father legally waives his parental authority.

          Read the last line carefully in the screenshot below.

          https://imgur.com/ahrCjJP

      • Lung addie says up

        https://www.amsterdam.nl/veelgevraagd/?productid=%7B6C003487-DED7-4AE6-9FFD-C606D0AB0BD7%7D

        • Mark says up

          I already knew that information

          • Lung addie says up

            Dear Mark,
            Wasn't that information clear enough that you should come here and ask again? Here you are sure that you will get a lot of answers that you will not be able to do anything with because you will eventually have to turn to an official body. For simplicity: do it in your home country. You hold all the trumps there: you are married to the mother and the father renounces…. what else do you want?


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