Dear readers,
I am married to a Thai woman, she lives in Thailand and she is with me in the Netherlands from time to time. She has a multi-entry visa and does not earn any money here, because that is simply not allowed. According to the normal statement of my tax, annual income, one is asked if one is married. I fill in: yes. Does your wife live in the Netherlands: no. Answer from the tax authorities: then you are not married, even though I have registered my marriage in the Netherlands. Called the tax authorities, but they don't know a good solution because of the computer system.
So now received a letter about the care allowance. She has now applied for a BSN number from the foreign tax authorities. Now I have to pass on the income she earns and indicate whether she also owns a house. I have to do this before December 3. If the tax authorities have not received any income from my wife before December 3, they will stop my care allowance.
I mean, we can't make it any easier. I called the tax authorities, but they themselves do not understand.
Who has experience with this and can give me good information?
Regards,
Maarten
The situation is not usual anyway and I may suspect that your wife is a taxpayer under Thai law and there are various treaties that are important.
This is therefore not a question to the tax telephone, but to the inspector and to her/him the situation can be explained in great detail.
My advice: call 'your' tax authorities, not the foreign service in Heerlen. Take the case to a government official and ask if you can submit the facts by email, letter or fax. That will, I think, be allowed. The advantage is that the question is then exactly fixed.
Then send that message to that person or to the department he/she advises, stating the deadline of 3 December. Incidentally, the final healthcare allowance to which you are entitled for this year will be assessed afterwards; what you get now is an advance.
That official will message you by, I think, e-mail and then you will have a point of view and you will know what to fill in. Calling, no matter how fast, is not always the right option because nothing is fixed.
Dear Erik, thank you for your advice, I will certainly do this, record it by e-mail and then I will also have it on paper, thank you for your advice, greetings Maarten
I am in the same situation, but I have no problems with the tax authorities at all
My wife is in the Netherlands for a few months every year and also has a "foreign" BSN number
I do have to fill in the “worldwide income” form every year for my wife
To this I truthfully declare that my wife's income in Thailand is 0,0
Never any problems
I also receive a regular health care allowance, which is calculated on the joint income
regards peter
I have the same as Peter, my wife receives such a neat blue letter, fill it out neatly, send everything in 000, tax by registered mail.
My wife has a BSN number in Holland, no further problems, she used to receive a tax credit, but was abolished in 2015.
She lives in Thailand and I live in Holland no problem.
Caspar
Dear Peter, the care allowance is indeed calculated on the joint income. Equity is also taken into account, for partners, such as in your situation and that of the questioner Maarten, you may have up to € 2018 in equity in 143.415. You and Maarten are residents of the Netherlands and are therefore compulsorily insured for medical expenses. If your wives stay in the Netherlands for less than 4 months per year, they are not considered residents and are therefore not eligible for compulsory health insurance and therefore not for health care allowance. Of course you retain your rights to the individual care allowance and since you meet the criteria you will also receive it. Also applies to Maarten, do not see his problem. Simply provide the information requested by the tax authorities about his wife's income in Thailand, as well as answer the question about owning a home or not, so that his individual care allowance can be calculated. Incidentally, Maarten writes that his wife occasionally stays in the Netherlands, it is unclear how long. If it were to exceed 4 months per year, the situation would be completely different.
Dear people, I have already received many responses, and I already see a good picture of Peter and Leo Th's story. I will personally email my own story about my situation at the tax authorities, so that I can hopefully get a good picture. , but as I also read the story of Brabantman who has a problem with SVB, I also see that it is for the tax authorities/SVB and even more authorities such as the bank, which requires my wife to have a BSN number, so that they can contact me can process the request, in any case thank you everyone for their opinion, kind regards Maarten
Dear Maarten, just a comment. Simply contacting the Tax and Customs Administration via e-mail is not possible, for this you need the e-mail address of the inspector who is handling your case. So, in accordance with Erik's advice, call the inspectorate that you fall under, explain the case and, if necessary, ask if the inspector's email address can be provided. Alternatively, by normal letter post. I understand that a citizen service number has now been applied for for your wife, so that will be all right. Good luck!
Leo,
Maarten's wife has a multi-entry visa. This means that she can never spend more than 3 consecutive months in the Netherlands. So she is not a resident.
Yes Jasper, with a multiple-entry visa you can indeed be in the Schengen area for a maximum of 90 days out of 180. So in a whole year you could end up with a stay of almost 6 months. This exceeds the 4 months, which do not necessarily have to be consecutive.
Dear Leo Th, I just saw that you are talking about exceeding 4 months, so for example, with a Multiple - entry visa, she could, for example, stay here for almost 6 months, which is legally possible according to the visa, but if that were to happen, what are the consequences? than the consequences, financial or otherwise, of gr maarten
Hi Peter, thank you for your information, where can you download the world income form, then I will fill it in as well, greetings Maarten
The worldwide income form cannot be downloaded just like that. is only if the exile service requests it .
The form can simply be downloaded from the website of the tax authorities, printed and completed
The form “certificate of life” of the SVB contains a similar problem.
You can choose between married/cohabiting and unmarried/not cohabiting.
The choice of being married and not living together is not possible here either!!
That's right. Is now in a conflict with the SVB because being married and not living together does not exist with them.
For example, I have neatly entered on 'proof of life' that I do not live together (they have been to my door in Thailand and checked!), and now I have a fine of more than 4000 euros because I am married and living alone according to the SVB not possible. They call this incorrect statement provided.
I have appealed and waiting.
Although not on-topic, but interesting. The SVB website states that married people who do not live together for practical or financial reasons receive an AOW benefit for married people, which is 50% of the minimum wage. An example could be that your wife prefers to stay with her Thai family and you choose to live in Bangkok, Pattaya, or wherever. But the SVB website also states that if you divorce or separate, but remain married, you will receive the AOW amount as a single person (70%) if: • you or your partner no longer want to live together and • you both lead your own lives as if there is no longer a marriage and • you do not intend to live together again. This situation could arise, for example, if divorce is not possible due to religious beliefs or if one of the partners has run away with the Noorderzon. The SVB therefore recognizes, contrary to what you claim, that being married and not living together can happen. It is your job to explain to the SVB what applies to your situation. Without any intention of accusing you of anything, after all, I do not know your situation, the SVB is of course also aware that there are Dutch/fellow nationals who want to take the cake.
Maarten
You can of course find everything on the website of the Tax and Customs Administration
https://download.belastingdienst.nl/belastingdienst/docs/opg_wereldinkomen_ninbi_2017_ib0672z71fol.pdf
Success with it
Maarten
You can of course find everything on the website of the Tax and Customs Administration
https://download.belastingdienst.nl/belastingdienst/docs/opg_wereldinkomen_ninbi_2017_ib0672z71fol.pdf
Good luck with it, regards
Why did you have your wife apply for a BSN number? Assume that based on the criteria she lives in Thailand and is not liable to pay taxes in the Netherlands at all. If she has a BSN number then she is now in the Dutch tax system, resulting in a tax return (World Income) in my opinion. As I understand it, you live in the Netherlands and you file a tax return as a Dutch taxpayer. In that system, the computer does not know the situation of being married to a foreigner who does not live in the Netherlands, since the foreigner is also not liable to pay taxes in the Netherlands (the computer/program is very straightforward). And she has absolutely nothing to do with Healthcare Allowance. Now that you are in the system (letter from the Tax Authorities/Healthcare Allowance), I would answer that your wife lives in Thailand, has x income there and may or may not have a home in her name. Even if she has income and her own home in Thailand, this will not lead to any taxation in the Netherlands. If you answer before December 3, you will be in a dialogue with the tax authorities and therefore in a situation where they have questions about this. to provide an answer or explanation.
Dear Wim Doeser, thank you for your advice, she has a BSN number, in some cases this is necessary, otherwise you sometimes cannot get something done in the Netherlands, for example; mortgage, they ask for her BSN number because she is married to me. One must legally register this, if one does not do so, one is punishable by law, there are people who do not do this, she also had this with her previous husband, and because he had not registered this, she did not receive a survivor's pension, and also many financial matters, yes no registration, so she suffered a financial setback, and when it comes to money your in-laws in another country are not available, Greetings Maarten
Wim: Even without a BSN number, you will be asked for a worldwide income if you apply for a rent or healthcare subsidy. The simple fact that you are officially married is enough. If the wife has income or owns a house in Thailand, this will affect the amount of the rent or health care allowance, because this is always a joint income to determine these rights if you are married.
The form can simply be downloaded from the website of the tax authorities, printed and completed