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Home » Reader question » How can I recognize my Thai child?
How can I recognize my Thai child?
Dear readers,
My Thai girlfriend is due to give birth soon and she lives in Khon Kaen, but I live and work in the Netherlands. How do you go about acknowledging the child? I can't come along for the birth registration. How are you doing now? Can I also do that in the Netherlands? Or do I have to go to Thailand for that?
Can our child also acquire Dutch nationality? We are not legally married, only for the Buddha.
Regards,
Michael
Our son was born in Thailand in 1999, the mother is Thai. The doctor at the hospital where he was born wrote out a birth certificate: child X was born to mother Y. With that, the mother went to the town hall (the amphoe) with her and my identification documents to indicate the birth, record his name and record the names of father and mother: the birth certificate (soetibat in Thai). I was not there as a father, the mother arranged everything, and I believe that marriage papers were not necessary either, and therefore not being legally married.
My son's birth certificate therefore also mentions my name as father, on the basis of which he received Dutch nationality and a passport at the Dutch Embassy. You have to do that, I thought within three months.
I don't know if that is still the case, your girlfriend should check with the relevant town hall. Send your identity papers with your acknowledgment of the child to Thailand. You cannot file a tax return in the Netherlands.
In order to obtain a Dutch passport, you must first (before birth) make a declaration of usufruct at the embassy. Otherwise, you will have to wait a long time to obtain the passport.
Dear Tina,
Oh, what you say here, I think the baby should go through an integration process. If a child wants to be Dutch as you describe, the unborn child must be recognized. After birth, according to the rules that were 8 years ago when my son was born, you are too late. Then become a very very long way.
So that you say I thought..... something so important you should definitely know Tino. And otherwise you have to advise as I want to do with this one, read the site of the Dutch embassy. Watch out Tino with something so important.
In my opinion, the child must be recognized at the embassy before birth if you want a Dutch passport. After birth is also possible, but only with DNA research.
The most important thing is to declare the unborn child at the Dutch embassy in Bangkok. Before the child is born. The other way around is marrying the Thai lady, the child is then automatically your child. Otherwise, through the court, that takes about three months and costs a lot. money. This procedure has just been completed with success. But contact the Dutch embassy, they will give good advice that is important to your case.
I don't think you can declare an unborn child at the embassy and certainly not acknowledge it before or after birth. You don't have to get married at all. As an unmarried father, I have gone through a recognition procedure in Thailand twice, in 2 and 2015, and the costs of everything are not too bad, about 2018 baht all in (from legal costs, translations, lawyer and court and passport itself and hotel accommodation in Bangkok etc.etc .), to arrange Dutch nationality and passport. Do live in Thailand.
Recognizing the unborn child is no problem at all at the embassy, I also did it in Bangkok. This is also possible after birth. In that case, you must demonstrate that you have taken care of it financially for an uninterrupted period of 3 years.
That used to be possible in the good old days. For many years you have not been able to recognize at any embassy. There is no point in sharing outdated information here. For example, look at the website of the National Government or the website of dutchmenworldwide to gather up-to-date information or google "acknowledging a child abroad", then check whether you are looking at recent messages).
Sorry, read another option instead of otherness
In 2007 I had to do an acknowledgment of unborn fruit before birth with my daughter.
Now that is no longer necessary, this law has now been amended.
2 years ago our son got a passport without recognition.
it is all described what you have to do on the website of the central government.
you have to bring / translate and legalize all kinds of forms, then apply for a passport at the embassy.
google has a lot of information but also gives a lot of unreliable information because the law has changed, pay close attention to the dates of those messages.
success with it
If your son received a passport 2 years ago without recognition, this means that you were already officially married to the mother or had a registered partner relationship with her in the Netherlands. You should have told me otherwise this wouldn't work. If not married, you will still have to acknowledge the child somewhere.
All the advice above enjoys a truth value.
My advice is to contact BUZA, they are the dome above the embassy. They can provide you with legal advice and suggest that you want to sign an acknowledgment on the spot in The Hague as well as the possibility to report this by fax and/or email. Everything is expected to go digital from 2020. Then that should already be possible. Especially for such a life-determining matter.
Your personal data and that of your girlfriend and her entire family are already linked. So it must be possible.
Good luck and also write your follow up here, it can be different pelpen.
Regards, Martin Farang.
Dear commenters,
Couple!
So I write clearly,
obviously in equivalent but “only theoretical” case, all of this would work. The baby is born! Another Dutchman in this world! Everyone happy, you happy, mom even happier and your parents suddenly become happy grandparents of such a beautiful baby.
But now it turns out that the baby is 100% Thai.
Can everything be reversed and will the passport and the 'Dutchness' be reclaimed?
I'm talking about a theoretical case, but it could happen in practice.
Grandfather Peer
The mother can have your name listed as the father on the birth certificate. At the town hall of the place where the child was born, the mother can then have you recognized as the father. If you are not there yourself, I do not know which documents/copies are required from you. I advise you to ask the mother at the town hall first. This recognition must then be officially translated (English) and legalized. Information about this can be found on, for example, the site of netherlandsworldwide.nl or rijksoverheid.nl. With this translated and legalized recognition you can also recognize your child in the Netherlands. It is possible to do recognition in the Netherlands without (first) having done recognition in Thailand, but that is more cumbersome and more expensive. Recognition is not possible at the Dutch embassy. In the past this was possible, but since a number of years recognition is only possible at the Dutch embassy in Iraq. After recognition in the Netherlands, you can apply for a passport for your child. This is the sequence of actions. For more detailed information about the process itself, I refer you to the above websites and the town hall in your place of residence.
I was also not at the birth of our daughter in 2015.
I am married for Thai law and registration in NL.
My wife has registered a birth with me as the father on the certificate.
Later in 2015 I registered with the municipality in NL with a translated and legalized deed.
In 2017 I applied for a passport at the municipality of The Hague when they were in NL.
The Hague has a special counter for such cases.
check the website for the procedure.