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Home » Reader question » Do I have a hefty electricity bill?
Do I have a hefty electricity bill?
Dear readers,
I would like to present the following to you, I have an electricity bill of between 4.500 and 5.000 Baht every month. We are 5 adults and a small child. An adult with a small child contribute 1.000 baht per month and I pay the rest of what is left.
I believe it is a considerable amount, or am I wrong?
I look forward to seeing your responses to this.
Regards,
ThailandJohn
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I think it's an astronomical amount, but you can't expect sensible advice.
Your consumption depends on so many factors: 5 air conditioners are running with windows and doors open a day, the swimming pool is running constantly and you can go on endlessly. I mean but energy consumption determine yourself. I've always been a piet lut with energy. Pay about 700 Bath for electricity in summer and 400 Bath in winter.
more info desired; how many air conditioners, swimming pool? etc.
Dear Pieter,
3 modern air conditioners. they are turned on at about 04:00 in the evening and at night and then they switch off and of course the windows are closed. 2 Fridges with freezer compartment. Modern energy saving label.
Washing machine that is often on in connection with the small, but is always used optimally.
No pool.
Electricity bill directly from the utility company. Garden lighting with colored fluorescent lighting and energy-efficient lamps. these go out around midnight. only 2 energy-efficient lamps of 8 watts remain on until around 07:00. That's it Pieter, warm regards and thanks.
This may be correct, we pay between 4000 and 5000 bath per month 4 air conditioners that cost a lot of electricity in the living room, when air conditioners are not on (December) you pay 1000 to 1200 bath per month
greetings renee
You have economical and really economical refrigerators. 2 weeks ago I went looking for a man-sized refrigerator for someone, then you come across equal refrigerators in terms of content and more, but depending on the brand, more consumption, monthly consumption of roughly 200 to 400 baht per month according to the labels. And then you have the influence of outside temperature, which can increase the amounts for a refrigerator in hot weather. It is good to pay attention to this when purchasing, because if you pay, for example, 1000 Baht more for an economical refrigerator, the savings can easily be 2000 Baht per year; at Samsung sometimes even cheaper to purchase than other brands and also more economical in consumption, double benefit.
Same story for air conditioners. I think refrigerator and air conditioner are the 2 biggest power consumers for most.
I myself pay for electricity in cool weather 450 per month to 800 baht per month in hot weather: 1 man-sized refrigerator and 1 air conditioner in the bedroom which is turned off when the outside temperature is cool (below 25 degrees) and then the fan is on. My highest bill in the last 12 months was 679 baht. Entire house as well as outside full of many energy-saving lamps, maximum 18 Watt. In my living room there are 9 on at night (daylight lamps). And also every common electrical device in use and during the day the fan (permanently), PC, TV or washing machine on (have a 4-year-old son, so a lot of laundry for school clothes, among other things).
I do make sure that the lights are switched off in the rooms where I am not staying, as well as around the house (detached bungalow with 3 bedrooms) where it is already light because of the lighting in my Moobaan. But for the rest I am not set on reducing my energy consumption because it is already low anyway.
I went through old bills and the highest bill was 1200 baht 8 years ago when the air conditioning was also on during the day because of a baby. See here that one can also have little consumption and still have every device in use. When purchasing a device, it is important to look at the monthly energy consumption.
Your story sounds very logical Ger, but the numbers you give give me the impression that you have only had your air conditioning on for a very short time.
An air conditioner uses more than the figures indicate during normal use.
a piece from the Bangkokpost from 2021
Times the number with further quality equipment can give you an impression that you can end up with.
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The experiment showed that if a unit of electricity costs 3,9 baht, the air conditioner costs 2,69 and 3,08 baht per hour to operate at 35 and 41 degrees Celsius outside temperatures. When used 8 hours a day for 30 days, it costs 646 and 739 baht accordingly, or an additional 93 baht per air conditioner.
However, electricity in Thailand is charged at progressive rates. The higher the consumption, the higher the rate. Therefore, the hypothetical calculation may be lower than the reality.
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In the past I also had acquaintances [bachelor] who kept it under three hundred Baht, which resulted in a remission that the only electricity used at home was the TV with a light and an hour of air conditioning did not tell.
At this time it is about 1500 Baht between 1800 and 0600 as the part of the day is covered by panels on the roof with sometimes some PEA consumed due to bad weather.
But also know people who find seven to eight thousand baht a month 'normal' completely PEA.
The temperatures from the Bangkok Post are only encountered during the day, in the evening it cools down well, at least outside the big city, and the outside temperature is below 30 degrees even in the hot months, often much lower outside the hot months and then it turns the air con only hard at the beginning to cool the hot room to the desired temperature. And yes I only have the air conditioning in the bedroom and that is only at night and then it is already less hot and you consume considerably less than when you turn on the air conditioning during the day. Use it all night and it is also important that you purchase an economical device and then you can save a lot.
Three – also modern – air conditioners consume electricity.
Just like the washing machine when it washes with hot water.
5 adults and a child give a lot of heat in the house (as much heat as a 125 watt light bulb per person I have ever read)
It also depends on how well insulated your house is and what time the air conditioners switch on again.
The price of electricity also seems to be rising, but the bill does not indicate this clearly.
I do see that the price divided by consumption increases.
I think that your consumption will be in the air conditioners.
It depends if they have the AC on if so then it is normal. Check the bill, right off the bat 1000 kw about 3900 thb
and also to know, do you pay directly to the electricity company or to your landlord…..
they want to add a little extra every now and then…
John, take a critical look at all the appliances in your house and ask yourself if they aren't running uselessly. Air conditioners are power eaters!
You can turn off everything in and around the house and then turn off the main switch. Then walk to the electricity meter that (I think) hangs on the lamppost on the street. It should then stop. You won't be the first to be connected to a neighbour's house by the gnomes….
Being critical by you and your family members can already save you money. In our house with 2 people, an air conditioner and a man-sized fridge / freezer, we pay 1.500 baht per month during the hot season and 1.000 baht outside of that.
Dear Erik,
I have a half burned house on one side. that has no electrical connection. Not even on my meter.
On the other hand, an empty house that has not been checked on my electricity meter either.
thanks for your message.
john,
You are with 5 adults, of which you are one of them.
Those 4 other adults pay 4000 Bth.
And you what's left?
That is also 1000 Bth.
Or am I wrong??
apropos: consumption is high; we are between 1000 and 1800 Bth (in hot season)
Hello Peer, it is really quite clear that 1 adult contributes 1000 Baht, which means that John pays the rest, which is between 3500 and 4000 Baht. (4500 to 5000 -1000 = 3500 to 4000).
The aforementioned storage (of the KWH price) by the landlord is also a real possibility that you are bottled with, we also had this with our new-build condo, the promised adjustment (reduction) to the standard rate of the electricity company still had some feet in the earth (something with a cupboard and a wall), in the end the development company of our condo adjusted (reduced) the prices (after I also received clarity from the electricity company that the separate meter was already completely ready for the standard rate )
It obviously depends entirely on the situation you are in.
Think for example of a swimming pool, outdoor lighting throughout the night, air conditioners, refrigerators, etc.
So some additional information might help.
Given my own situation, I don't think it's a ridiculously high amount at first glance. Quite sturdy.
Our situation is 2 adults and 2 children near Chonburi. Use of 2 air conditioners (6 hours a day), large fridge, freezer, 2 TVs (12 hours a day) and 2 computers (4 hours a day). Costs 5500 baht per month (electricity company).
Well,
This depends on the number of air conditioners that work + a swimming pool pump + a kettle.
If you have several adults, they will soon be in their own room with air conditioning, forbid to set an air conditioner lower than 25 degrees. We have a nephew (11 years old) of my wife's sister, who managed to set air conditioners in bedrooms to 18 degrees and then walk away.
So we had to educate them quite a bit.
Also take a look at the lamps, whether they are all LED lighting.
If the TV or laptop is off, I will unplug the plug from the socket, the same goes for the kettle after the water is hot, unplug it because the water stays warm for a long time. And when I leave the house, the switch goes off at the extension cord sockets. This way I have no standby consumption that can go on all day while you sometimes only use the device for 1 hour a day. Although power consumption is not my reason, but more certainty of overvoltage on the net, which can cause the devices to break down and / or fire to start, in particular, I therefore also switch off the aforementioned matters when I leave the house to prevent it, less power consumption is here an afterthought. Although if you have a house full of people with multiple TVs, PCs, extension cords, phone chargers and more, it seems to me that standby consumption also taps, in the attached link they talk about 180 Euros per year in standby consumption per family, which means 15 Euros per month = about 600 baht per month, which a family can save if, like me, you switch off this standby consumption.
see the link : https://www.unitedconsumers.com/blog/energie/sluipverbruik.jsp#:~:text=zo%20makkelijk%20geweest!-,Gemiddeld%20sluipverbruik,stroom%2C%20gemiddeld%20per%20jaar%20hebben.
It is a fairly high amount, but impossible to answer your question if you do not specify the electrical consumers.
Start already, as written here before: turn off the main switch and see if the meter is still running. If so, you have a loss somewhere or somewhere help from another consumer.
My opinion is that it is quite normal, although improvement is always possible of course.
Less than a thousand baht in the month of PP for a family of two, slightly lower for several people.
You give little information about equipment, but assume at least three air conditioners given your statement about the number of people.
The average Thai doesn't turn it off after an hour when the room has warmed up and then start sweating like so many foreigners do.
Equipment in addition to air conditioning such as TV and flow heater can cost a lot of electricity, the open door project of many Thais as well.
Meter readers report immediately if, in their eyes, 'repairs' have been carried out on the meter here in my region.
Not alarming if you divide it by the number of people.
Dear responders.
Addition:
we have 3 air conditioners that only run in the evening and at night and they switch off automatically at 04:00. In addition, 2 refrigerators with a freezer compartment. Washing machine and garden lighting are only on in the evening and are also equipped with energy-efficient lamps.
Dear Peer, we are 5 adults, 1 person pays 1000 bath per month, and 1 of these persons? that's me the tenant pay the surplus. During the day to the toilet light on otherwise they can't see with daylight. Shower with light on during the day, otherwise they cannot find their bodies. So that's why we have a bill of 4500 to 5000 Bath. I thank all responders for their response.
Kind regards Thailand John
From what I have read and understood, the electric hot water device in the shower is the biggest power consumer.
The day and night difference in consumption is on average 45 to 55%, so the air conditioners are not too bad
It's more the 24-hour TV and the old refrigerators and fans that can make things expensive
Dear John
Indoor and outdoor lights don't really make the difference.
You can also renew them with LED lamps that are not expensive here and can be bought everywhere.
Or an in-depth investment in a solar cell, no more expenses and you never have to worry about it again.
The [old and often too low BTU] air conditioning consumes power, especially now in the warm nights.
Because of the cost price, refrigerators here are also equipped with a cooling system that is too small, so those things run non-stop to keep it cool.
Washing machine almost the same story large consumption with six people, especially if everything has to be washed separately.
Shower times five to six people on a flow device of say 3,5 KW count from your consumption.
They still try their best to keep you out of the costs [wink]
Put the cold stock barrel with cold water and a ladle for a month.
Nostalgia.
Succes
Electricity consumption in Thailand also remains a mystery to me, but in a positive sense. If I stay with my partner in a flat in Bangkok for 5 to 6 months, the monthly bill will remain unchanged. Every month we have to tap THB 230, even though we don't use energy-saving light bulbs and the 1.5 meter high refrigerator is ancient, of the Sanyo brand (I don't believe that exists anymore at all). And the fan in the bedroom is on all night long.
Khaki
Seems like a normal electricity bill to me. Without solar cells we would pay 2200 per month, now only 600. There are two of us, 2 fridge freezer combinations, freezer and washing machine. Air conditioning is on for 5 hours a day. 2 well water pumps and a 200Liter/hour RO water filter system. Entire house + outdoor LED lighting. RO water filter uses relatively much electricity but is necessary because we live between our rice fields.
Are 5 people going to shower twice a day with warm water, let's say it takes an hour each time
then you lose 7 kWh/day, so in a month X 30 = 210 kWh. So is 210 X 5 baht = 1050 baht.
That is with a heater of 3.5 kW. This therefore becomes HIGHER as the power is HIGHER and also for how long
(THE TIME) hot water is used. Assuming that the kWh price is 5 baht/kWh. Also shower 2 times with warm water, if shower MORE, it will increase again.
In this case, you pay +/- 4500 baht/5 baht = 900 kWh. The heater consumes 210, so 900-210 = 690 kWh still to be traced, from the stated situation.
An air conditioner will only really consume when it starts, you have 3. The consumption again depends on how large they are and also the operation of the device. If these are "too small", they will catch on more to reach the desired temperature. Whether there is enough coolant in it also determines the on and off switching and therefore the consumption. Also temperature differences, it is colder on a day or hotter. His doors and windows are closed. AND of course your set point, desired temperature.
Do you clean your air conditioner internally? If not, contamination (deposits/dust on your cooling fins) can deteriorate the operation. Your suction filter can also become clogged and therefore negatively affect its operation.
You can therefore calculate what it consumes for each device
Unit power in Watts x time in HOURS divided by 1000 to get to kW.
Short : P xh /1000 = kWh
Eg You have 5 lights of 40 W, how much is that at 7.5 hours
40 X 7.5 / 1000 = 0.3 kWh, 5 lights so 5 X 0.3 = 1.5 kWh total/use.
With a device where the power is specified in kW, you can immediately use that and you MUST NOT divide by 1000 anymore.
So a heater 3.5 kW for 2 hours
3.5 X 2 = 7 kWh/ use of that device over that time.
If you do that every day, you multiply that by the number of days and then you get the consumption over, for example, the month.
The washing machine has a heater, can you wash at various temperatures?
Thailand has heaterless washing machines. Used regularly (baby?), nappies 90 degrees?
Then you have another consumer there, but the heater is not used continuously.
But if the washing machine is used a lot and at higher temperatures, your bill will go up.
Just looked at my consumption in the Netherlands and that is 3000 kWh / YEAR.
So you're much higher than me.
However, I am alone, have no air conditioners, tumble dryer, electric heater.
And the washing machine always runs at 40 degrees
Switch off your board and see if your meter is still running, then you can see if there is an illegal connection that you paid for.
Ever found an illegal connection in the Philippines, which was IN the house.
Was a bit harder to find.
My water tank is in a sunny place and when it is a hot day the water temperature is already high and the heater consumes little power. And when the weather is hot, the heater even stays off, although it must be above 35 degrees outside. Many like cold, relatively then, showering and that makes a difference and therefore think that your calculation of consumption does not give a good picture given that “cold” showering and the temperature of the tank water. In addition to the power of a heater, you also have a temperature controller on it, so it is difficult to say that a device of 3500 Watt actually uses this, this is more the maximum power and important if the water is really cold, such as in the winter with a outside temperature of 10 to 15 degrees with ditto ice-cold water so that this 3500 Watt is able to bring ice-cold water to a reasonable temperature.
We live with 3 people in our house. 2 bathrooms and 2 bedrooms.
Our bedroom has air conditioning.
My mother-in-law's bedroom only a fan.
Both bathrooms have such a hot water device.
Large kitchen with 180 cm refrigerator and a 180 cm freezer.
Washing machine from NL and dryer.
Induction hob for 2 pans.
PEA bill fluctuates around 1600 baht every month.