Dear readers,

Every year my Thai wife and I come to our house in Thepsathit for a holiday. I have type 2 diabetes and would like to know if there are Dutch people living in Thailand who have this disease?

The point is: Can you also buy insulin pens in Bangkok or Khorat?

Please answer this question.

Yours faithfully,

Jan

27 responses to “Reader question: I have diabetes 2, can you also buy insulin pens in Bangkok or Khorat?”

  1. soul says up

    if you have diabetes 2 how not to inject
    I think you can buy everything for diabetics in Thailand
    but you can also bring it from the Netherlands
    you only need to apply for a medical passport at the pharmacy

  2. Hans van Mourik says up

    I also have type 2 diabetes
    and am also to this
    looking, and wait by this one
    also on comments.
    I live in myself
    Khan Kaen:

  3. John says up

    Hi Jan,
    Also have diabetes 2, take the insulin pens to Thailand yourself, no problem, but ask for a medication passport at the pharmacy, never a problem when checked!!

  4. aria says up

    Hello Jan.
    Also have db with insulin syringes novomix 4.
    Simply available in every hospital.
    Bring old box.
    Bought 5 cartridges for 1100 bath.
    Advice you must have ice with you for transport.
    Takes about 1.5 to 2 hours, Thai hospital hey
    All this was in pak chong.
    Greetings Ari

    • Davis says up

      Dear Ari, Jan,

      Insulin is for sale in BKK and NAK.
      On the one hand, there are many expats and tourists with diabetes in Thailand.
      On the other hand, there are more and more Thai people with diabetes. Which, however, are very poorly monitored/followed up, so that many are walking around with complications of the disease.

      There are bags for sale that store your insulin perfectly and keep it cool during transport.
      Thought it was even a Dutch product; the Frio bag.
      Inexpensive and solid product. Keep the pens cool at 38°C.
      Bought the bags myself in Belgium, but here's the link for the Netherlands:
      http://www.frio.asia
      Click on 'Netherlands local' for sales addresses, click on to 'Frio Models' for the bags.

      Furthermore, insulin (DM type III c) is also injected.
      Novorapid and Lantus. Always take them with you, go in the refrigerator on the plane.
      But are also for sale in Thailand.
      Preferably get it in the hospital. Local drug stores sometimes have it, but don't trust this because of the storage regulations. Have experienced that there was a delivery of medicines in the afternoon in front of the door in the flat sun. The shop had its shutters half closed. 2 hours later we passed it again, and it was still there. In the evening the drug store was open, and the box was inside. They were unpacking and placing it in the sales displays!
      You will also receive an invoice in the hospital, which you can submit to the – in my case Belgian – health insurance for reimbursement. In any case, take your medical passport with you, and possibly a medical report of your condition in English.

      Good luck,

      Davis

  5. ron says up

    Kind of weird type 2 and insulin use. In type two, the pancreas still makes insulin, but the cells are closed, which is why pills are given. Eg Glucophage with possibly daonil 3x a day. Possibly an addition of victoza a pen can be used.

    With type 1, you no longer produce insulin.

    I take everything I need with me to Thailand. Medication passport does not exist in Belgium, so take a letter from the doctor with you.

    • Davis says up

      Early type II diabetics risk becoming insulin dependent later in life.
      This is not so 'weird'.

      In Belgium, there are medication sheets that can be drawn up in English.
      But there is indeed no uniform medical passport as in the Netherlands.
      A diabetes passport does exist and is issued by the health insurance fund. There is a page in English where the doctor can fill in your list of medication.
      furthermore, a report in English from the treating doctor with a list of your medication is also sufficient.

    • Jan Middendorp says up

      Hello Ron. Proper spraying at DB 2 It doesn't work for me with just tablets. Hence the insulin injections. Thank you for your response. Greetings Jan.

  6. Heijdemann says up

    Levermir pens simply available in Bangkok and Chiang Mai (hospital pharmacy).

  7. YUUNDAI says up

    Jan,
    Go to a good pharmacy or medicine store in Thailand, show them what you need and ask how quickly they can deliver and what it costs.
    My question is why don't you just bring your insulin from the Netherlands?
    Succes

  8. NHPassholders says up

    I think they are all doctors who say you don't have to inject insulin big nonsense I also have type 2 and have been using day novo rapid for the day and levemir for the night since 2000 and take it with you to Thailand, but it is there also available at hospital pharmacy.

    • Davis says up

      Indeed, nonsense and apekool that type 2 only needs pills. It's the rule, but many also need external insulin to maintain blood sugar levels.

      No one, but no doctor, will proclaim that type 2 can only be treated with pills and never with insulin.

      As for the book, those are people who will only see the long-term complications: disorders of the blood vessels, nerves, frequent infections and diabetic foot. The latter with a risk of gangrene and even at a young age with an amputated leg as a result. Because they were not insulin-adherent… That does not come from some book, but from the practice of every (including Western) hospital. In Thailand in particular, there are so many cases because people do not want to inject insulin, it is unknown whether the diabetics from rural areas do not have access to it.

      Otherwise it would be that diabetes can be prevented by reading books. Quite possible.
      But once diagnosed, can it be cured? No. To treat? Yes! According to the doctor's advice.

      And those who don't want to know about it will feel it afterwards.

      • Nico B says up

        Dear Davis, your assertion that diabetes is incurable caught my attention.
        I can't claim to the contrary, but still this.
        On Thailandblog today there is an article about Mers.
        I posted a comment there, including about a teacher in Bangkok who fought cancer by using a treatment method, the teacher reports on this in a video, diabetes is also discussed in passing and that an acquaintance of this man has diabetes treated with this treatment method. The video can be seen on the site I mentioned.
        I refer you to my response today to the article about Mers. It might be interesting to find out whether diabetes can be cured or not.
        Again I'm not claiming it can, but refer to someone who claims it can.
        Nico B

        • Davis says up

          Thanks for your reference, interesting.

          In some cases diabetes can be 'cured'; but not the 2 most known types of diabetes.
          For example, there is gestational diabetes. Whether or not to treat with tablets or insulin.
          Recovers over time, of course after giving birth. So you can speak of 'cure'.

          Furthermore, for types 1 and 2, a transplant of the islets of Langerhans is possible. That's where the insulin-producing cells are. If that works, your body produces insulin again. But we are not that far, at least not for everyone and every diabetic, because then diabetes would no longer exist. Such transplants happen, but very rarely. You therefore speak of an operation/transplant according to classical medicine, and not of a book or an instructional video, diet, ... that would cure you.
          Compare it with an amputated leg and a prosthesis. You can't get that done yourself, not a health guru, herbal drinks and nutritional supplements of all kinds either. Let alone Jesus healing the lame…

          The following applies to type 2: prevention is possible, unfortunately no cure. At an early stage, you can slow down the degenerating effect of the disease by adjusting your diet and lifestyle.

      • Jan Middendorp says up

        Dear Davis, You are unfortunately right. According to my doctor, diabetes cannot be cured, CAN be treated with medication AND insulin

  9. Nature of Vineyards says up

    Hi Jan,

    I was diagnosed with diabetes 2 years ago, but I threw the provided Metformin straight into the garbage and used up 1 dose of insulin and did not order more. Diabetes has long been curable. I would order this book ($14 only). Having read that, you know how to get rid of Diabetes. The story that you have diabetes all your life is a lie.

    Regards,

    Nature of Vineyards
    (Currently living in the Philippines)

    • le casino says up

      Hello Aart, I have diabetes 2, take metformin and inject insulin recently. It's not that bad but I'm not cheering! Can you give me the title of that $14 book.
      Many thanks in advance… greetings leo

  10. Nature of Vineyards says up

    Hi Jan,

    I see that the link to the very interesting article has disappeared, otherwise please send me an e-mail to:

    [email protected]

    Regards,

    Aart

  11. franky.holsteens says up

    Best ,

    it is strange that you have to have syringes with type 2, this should not only be Pills Glucophage 500 mg,
    are available in Thailand but with a doctor's prescription.

    Type 1 = syringes Type 2 = with pills

    Regards ,

    Franky

  12. Rembrandt says up

    Dear Jan,
    I cannot say anything about the availability of insulins in Bangkok or Khorat. I myself live near the small provincial town of Pranburi and can order almost all insulins at my pharmacy there. If it's so easy to get in such a small provincial town, then it shouldn't be a problem at all in Bangkok. I myself use Lantus (4390 Baht for five pens) and Novorapid (1590 Baht for five 3ml capsules). With this combination, the perfect basal/bolus therapy can be followed. Until December last year I used Insulatard and Actrapid and they each cost 835 Baht for five 3ml capsules. It is usually available from pharmacies within two days of ordering. My pharmacy stores it well (checked it myself) and they give me the insulins packed with cooling elements. I am very satisfied with the switch to Lantus/Novorapid and now use about 20% insulin as before.
    I can recommend the Android program My Diabetis and it allows you to follow your diabetes perfectly. It has a calculation tool that allows you to calculate the bolus injection by specifying the food to be used. The program is free and also has a Dutch interface.
    Rembrandt

    • Rembrandt says up

      Two minor fixes:
      1. With the new combination I use 20% less insulin;
      2. The correct program name is Diabetes:M by Rossen Varbanov.
      Rembrandt

  13. San says up

    Dear people, I think it's great that a topic about diabetes has been brought up. I've been coming to Thailand and Laos for years. When I ask people who has diabetes, I don't get an answer or they don't know. I've always wondered how diabetes is dealt with in those countries. I have now got an idea from the responses. Thank you.

    San

  14. Good heavens Roger says up

    Anyone who has diabetes will never get rid of it, unless you have a new pancreas implanted. As far as I know this is done in England, now perhaps elsewhere in Europe as well? In Thailand that will not be the case at all, after all, they are still far behind Europe in the medical field. It should be remembered that with a transplant, you are almost lifelong on medication against rejection symptoms.

  15. Harm says up

    I live in Khorat (Nakhonratchasima) and have had type 20 diabetes for 2 years. I just get my insulin and pills once every 1 months at the St Marie hospital in Khorat
    Have a very good doctor specialized in both type 1 and type 2 diabetes
    Bon to you. email and you will get it 100% reimbursed.

    • Jan Middendorp says up

      Okay Harm. We have our house in Thepsathit about 100 km. from khorat
      and still go there every year in our vacation, because my wife there
      have a body check done. Greetings Jan

  16. Jan Middendorp says up

    Hello all. I would like to thank you for the explanation and the responses I received
    received on this topic. Because I think the drugs and insulin in
    Thailand are a lot cheaper than in Holland. That's why I have this question
    because I think it's so unfair that when after 45 years you're hard
    work get this disease, you have to pay for the medication. And that, while you are in
    you have always paid contributions during your working life and have never been ill for a day
    Hereby, Everyone cordial greetings from: Jan Middendorp

  17. Nature of Vineyards says up

    Subject: Type 2 diabetes

    One Davis on this site thinks he knows better than 5 doctors from the International Council for Truth in Medicine and the Health Ranger from Natural News.

    Last year, our team of doctors at the ICTM helped 17,542 type 2 diabetics end the need for prescription drugs, insulin injections and blood sugar monitoring. This year we are on track to help over 30,000 diabetics achieve “the impossible”.

    But ask your treating doctor, he will of course not say that Diabetes can be cured.

    Regards,

    Aart


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