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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Buying an apartment in Jomtien
Reader question: Buying an apartment in Jomtien
Dear readers,
Like you, we have become attached to Thailand. After digging through many pages, we can't find a solution.
We would like to buy an apartment in a Condo in Jomtien. This for an amount of 25.000 euros, for which we would use savings. But do I understand correctly that you never ever become owner? That you lost this after 30 years anyway?
Because if this is the case, why would anyone buy a house/apartment there at all?
I would love to get in touch with someone who would explain it to us. We are only 30/33 years old and wanted to buy this as an investment, but we can no longer see the wood for the trees.
Who wants and can help us answer some questions?
Thank you very much for your response.
Anouk and Rob
€ 25.000 = approx. Bht. 900,000. You don't buy much for that. Not in Jomtien either and certainly not much m2. Anyway, your question: You never become the owner in that sense of the word, but you are the owner/user. You participate in a collective. That collective consists of 51% Thai owners (that can also be 1, namely the builder who has every interest in the situation remaining that way) and 49% other nationalities. A kind of shareholders, therefore, with a meeting and a board at least once a year. You can buy a condo in 3 ways: In Thai name but then the partner must be Thai (with some risks if the partnership goes wrong). You are then part of that 51%. In a so-called company, which actually rents to the owner/tenant. The company has to prepare an annual report with an accountant, costs between 10,000 and 15,000 Bht and again that 51/49 ratio. More explanation is needed about advantages and disadvantages. I can give you that, but it will take too long here. The third is the farang (not Thai) sale. In general, you have to pay more for such a condo. There are no further conditions attached to this, provided that the condo can be delivered. Pay particular attention to the papers supplied and engage a notary for the correct course.
There is currently a great deal of existing and new construction in Pattaya-Jomtien. I wouldn't recommend it at the moment and certainly not with so little money. [email protected]
Please note that it is not a "LEASEHOLD" condo, it often happens that a condo registered under Thai name is sold in that way, or rather rented out for a very long period, is a questionable system, only buy under "FREEHOLD" system in foreign name if you want to be sure to be the owner .
Please keep me informed
For 25.000 euros you really don't buy anything there that even remotely resembles what we would call a liveable place.
The Thai “building style” is already in a sorry state, let alone that you also let your eye fall on the lower segment of the construction market.
And remember one thing very well: In Thailand NOTHING is what it seems, especially not in their buildings. With a few (more expensive) exceptions.
Everything seems beautiful from afar, but ... far from beautiful.
Don't get too close with a critical eye because it will only make you feel unhappy.
And we will not talk about quality because that is an almost unknown concept in Thailand.
If you want to buy a condo (or house) be aware that no maintenance has ever been done. Or maybe unless it was inhabited by a farang.
So 25.000 euros…. forget it.
No more than 49% foreigners may own a condominium. The purchase is then called freehold, you are then the full owner. This has nothing to do with 30 years, 30 years means leasing a piece of land because a foreigner cannot buy land in Thailand.
If the 49% is sold to foreigners in a complex, there are realestate agents who tell you that buying is no problem at all. You must then set up a Company, I personally would never do that.
Also never buy off plan (construction has not yet started or has started), you do not know if they will build, when they will build, when it will be finished and how the construction and finishing will be.
There won't be much for sale for 25.000 euros, prices are usually starting from that. But that from then on is a studio in a complex where you can't turn your ass. I myself live in a Condo on Samui that is for sale, I will be happy if I get the same as what I paid for it 7 years ago. I've never seen it as an investment. If I get the same in return, I've lived for free outside of the maintenance and sink fund fee.
If you regularly go on holiday in Thailand and then also rent out to the same place in between, it is worth considering.
hi rob and anouk,
if you're that young I'd say think before you leap! first rent for a year and learn everything about life here and where you really want to live! without experience you really don't know what you're getting into. Do you have a specific reason you want to live in Pattaya/jomtien? Northern Thailand is much more attractive, has a better climate and above all costs much less. Chiang Mai is the most attractive. Are condos for sale from 20.000 euros. Condos can be owned by you with a freehold. What matters is how much monthly condo charges you have to pay for building maintenance and maintenance costs. Can vary enormously. In any case, renting is cheaper in most cases due to competition and you are more flexible if you want to move. Around Chiang Mai you can rent houses and condos from 150 euros per month. do you want to work here, do you have a work visa, health insurance etc? Why not first travel around for half a year and see what is for sale everywhere and then decide where you want to settle down. If you only want to do it for an investment and don't want to live here, think of something else! it is not clear from your story what you actually want. If you have specific questions send me email: [email protected]
regards
coastman
Coastman you want to do business and are not independent.
Chiang mai is the most attractive. Coastman be honest. When the farmers burn the land you can't be there from the smoke pollution. Very and very often if the farmers do not burn the land you have to cough all day after a week of chiang mai from the air pollution.
I agree it's a great city to stay in from time to time. Perhaps the nicest in Thailand.
But because you want to do business there, it is recommended as the most attractive place to live. You know better.
So Rob and Anouk there are many places, indeed less nice, but much better to live in Thailand. In chiang mai many weeks a year it is better not to be.
Dear Henk, Rob and Anouk,
The quality of a condo is many times better in the north than in Pattaya because everything is cheaper in Chiang Mai. Most things such as restaurants, etc. cost less than half, but also housing and other parts of first and second living. So if you are unbound, the choice is free and it is best to try out different places before you think about investing! much has been said about the differences of buying freehold and buying from the plan which can be very dangerous. high return on investment is offered for the first 5 years with the risk that what you buy will never be built. or go bankrupt during the journey with all its consequences. So my advice is and remains hands off investments until you know all the ins and outs of Thai customs and corruption.
3 years ago I wanted to buy a property and had already verbally confirmed the deal. A contract was presented to me, but I wanted my own lawyer to make and sign the contract. at the table with my lawyer it turned out that the man wanted to receive 50% in cash and 50% in the contract. All strange customs for the farang that we do not know and that the Thais like to use. If you do that, you will later pay a huge amount of tax yourself because your property is worth more than what you bought it for on paper. I had only found out by hiring a lawyer myself and I give you a note that many expats here in Thailand have the same problem!!!! So Rob and Anouk still have a lot to learn to get rid of it unscathed. And yes they could use some help.
For many people, Chiang Mai is and remains the best city to live in Thailand. Due to the more than 40.000 expats living here, the city has grown into a good mix of cultures and the original Thai culture continues to prevail. That culture has completely disappeared in Pattaya and Bangkok. If the fields in the northern provinces are burned in March, that is a nice reason to travel for 5 weeks for a holiday and also possibly to stay in Pattaya for a while. Or visit the great islands. What a weird assumption that I want to do business! I just want to help someone through my experiences and knowledge that rob and anouk ask for! Especially for young people who start an adventure here, they like to have support from experienced expats with a positive view of Thailand. Very wise of them to ask for that help. All much too complicated to start doing business here as a layman and inexperienced Dutchman. First get used to it and take a good look around and only then think about investing. I don't have anything for sale or rent or even a connection to anything to sell anyone. However, I know a lot of people who have made good and bad decisions in Thailand and you can learn a lot from them. Every person on this blog has undoubtedly had the same experiences and Rob and Anouk are asking for help and they are wise enough themselves I assume to make their own decisions and not be fooled. I hope they are guided by positive influences and not by many farang that are negatively charged.
goodbye
coastman
When purchasing freehold in foreign name, purchase price in foreign currency must be transferred to developer if under construction or with existing condo to own bank account in Thailand stating purchase for obtaining Forex statement. Can be provided by both developer and bank. It is wise to know the ins and outs of the offered condo, for example when an existing condo or association of owners is active. Many projects off plan have problems and are advertised with projects on paper for which down payments are collected but later never built, whereby changing of company name to reject liability happens regularly. Estate agencies that advertise projects collect commissions when they recruit buyers, but later reject any accountability if it turns out that it is a ghost project or non-compliance with the promise of free furniturepacket and others in the purchase agreement. If there are laws in Thailand to deal with such misappropriations, little happens in practice in favor of cheated buyers. Just lost their money. Litigation for justice takes years, is expensive and in the end it is only farang who loses money.
I would also like to know how this works
Gr.
The legal information given here is correct, but I find the personal advice rather negative to be honest.
1) For 25.000 € you can, with a bit of luck and a good search, certainly buy a beautiful modern new-build condo in a building with many facilities! Although a very small studio, but super modern.
2) If you were to turn your back on Thailand and no longer use it yourself, you would just rent out that studio anyway. Your pennies will always yield more than in the bank.
3) You are the owner of your condo for your entire life, after all, it is not a house with land
So why wouldn't you do it if you have that amount, unless of course these are your very last pennies.
I would advise positively.
Anne and Rob,
If I were you I wouldn't buy anything for the time being, but just renting that's the best. If you don't like it, you can just move. In a condo you often run the risk of noise nuisance. Once you've bought it, you're looking pretty. Buying is done quickly, don't sell. There's a lot for sale here. If you are looking for something outside Pattaya, the prices are cheaper and you can simply rent a bungalow with one, two or three bedrooms. Garden, terrace. But of course you have to know for yourself, if you prefer to buy then you just have to buy. But I would start renting. Good luck.
Dear,
Go rent first then you can see if you like the place. There's plenty to buy. Rob.
I bought a condo myself, after going to TH Jomtien regularly for more than 20 years.
I approached a TH lawyer and asked beforehand how much his assistance would cost me. That was 11.000 baht (10 years ago). Everything went perfectly. He fully assisted me in opening a bank account and knocking on the door of the administrations for the right papers.
I would say do.
You won't find anything serious for 900.000.
If you transfer money for the purchase, you must state the purpose in the transfer!
Good luck
Dear Rob and Anouk,
Why do you want to buy in Jomtien ??
And it's not true what you've been hearing about losing your condo.
It is important that you buy in your own name and not in your company name.
And you should buy from a reliable developer.
I live in Thailand for 15 years, and I first looked around for at least 12 years before I bought a pasr condo's.
What do you want to do with it? Are you going to live in yourself or for the rental?
If you want to buy something, I can give you good advice, because I also bought condos for 26000 euros.
And I've rented them all out right now.
You can email me and I'll send you some pictures of these condos I have.
[email protected]
Best regards,
Joshua.
I have been living in Ban Amphur Beach fishing village south of Pattaya for 12 years with great pleasure. Come and have a look here. I'm never leaving here. 0869849700. [email protected]. Many Free Hold in foreign name apartments for sale here. Greetings Lela
I am not a buyer, never owned or wanted a home, always rented. Now also enjoy living in Ban Amphur. A house with two bedrooms for 6000 bats per month. Can leave when I'm done looking here, like I did in the Netherlands. Buying a home as an investment involves risks. For example, who is the landowner, what will he do with the leasehold? This was also the case in Amsterdam when the long-term cheap leaseholds expired more than 30 years ago and the municipality realized that there was something to be gained and they increased market-compliance, which caused many homeowners to get into trouble. Look Rons, there is plenty to rent for a reasonable price. Also in Jomtjen.
Hello Anouk and Rob
I myself have been coming to Thailand for 15 years, especially Jomtien and Pattaya.
Of course the grass is always greener at the neighbors, but if you have chosen Jomtien you will not have gone ice cream overnight, but that will be a conscious choice.
I myself bought a double condo 11 years ago (2x28m) and lived there with great pleasure all those years. I say lived because for health reasons I moved to a rented house 3 months ago, also in Jomtien.
These two condos are in my name and are therefore also my property, the 2 chanots (title deed) are of course in my possession and of course in my name.
The complex is located in Soi Watboon and it is called Majestic condominium.
If you would like to know more, you can send an email to: [email protected]
Peter Bol
Many realistic assessments have already been made. I believe that it is certainly possible to buy an apartment for that budget in the said area. Jomtien is not a bad choice: the sea will always be popular, and its proximity to Suvarnabumi Airport makes it interesting for foreigners flying in. In addition, aspects are important for long-term value retention: quality and location. Don't buy a condo with money you may need in 10 years, so look long term. And don't just look at possible financial returns, because they are uncertain, but especially look at what you like to spend (long) holidays on. Then you can't go wrong. Go the official route and buy the Dutch equivalent of the apartment right that can be registered in the name of foreigners.
Take the time to make a choice. Hire a local broker who is independent of major developers. If you are going for new construction, then choose a reputable developer, and also look at an already realized project of the developer in question.
If you are interested, I can show you the way to reliable and transparent advisors. Let me know.
Rob & Anouk.
Keep in mind that this adventure to buy a condo will never bring you any profit, high free living if you stay here, so much money has been put into cement in recent years.. new construction.. that the supply exceeds the actual demand, the can become quite a loss item, even if you send money to Thailand you must be able to prove this when selling it to send it out again, and become a Resident for later, so you practically never become permanent residents, 99% of foreigners have a year visa, with 3 monthly notification obligation, as many have said, first rent and research carefully what you want.