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Home » Reader question » Reader question: When visiting relatives in Thailand, my wife often has to show how much money she has with her, why?
Reader question: When visiting relatives in Thailand, my wife often has to show how much money she has with her, why?
Dear readers,
I have the following question: every time my wife goes back to Thailand alone for a family visit, she is stopped just before boarding the plane by the military police or other service knockers asking how much money she has with her and they want to see this.
It has also been asked if she has a BSN number, this has already been the case 3 times, but when I travel along, it never bothers me.
Now my question is this is allowed just like that and as far as I know you can take up to € 10.000 abroad, or is this just bullying a foreigner again? Who of you also has this experience?
Thank you kindly for your answer.
Herman
Hallo,
This is not just bullying a foreigner, I have also been asked this 3 times at Schiphol this year,
They can ask this and yes you can bring up to € 10.000.
Gr. Joey
Actually, it should only be 9.999 €. And it is best to declare it to customs both when leaving Europe and when entering Bangkok. Difficult if departure and arrival is outside normal hours.
It is best to ask for a declaration form to have proof later. Must be someone who can or wants to do this.
I am very curious what experiences are with regard to the guidelines that are followed arbitrarily or not. Many thanks in advance
sabine
Not that I have any plans, but I would like to have that 9999 euros per person a little clearer.
So per family of dad, mom and 2 young children you can have 4x 9999 with you?
Or is there an age limit?
When asked if she has a BSN number, she can just show her Dutch passport extra friendly and innocently ask the question "Do you ask all Dutch people?"
It also happened to my girlfriend recently and quite by coincidence she had a large amount with her but below the limit. When asked why she was being checked and not the others around her, she was told that counting was being done and every "umpteenth" was taken out of the queue.
That is nonsense, but from a politically correct point of view they do not want to say that a Thai woman traveling alone belongs to the risk groups. (possibly black money, fill in yourself)
Filipino and Indonesian sailors, for example, are always singled out, because they are often still paid in cash and travel with large amounts of money.
This has nothing to do with bullying foreigners, they can check this on anyone.
If there was no specific limit of 10.000 euros, anyone with large amounts could leave the country.
With much larger amounts of money, they can also check whether it is black money or whether it may have come from other criminal cases.
It is of course strange that you are not allowed to take your own money with you. But money instruments, such as an ATM card, visa, etc. can also be used with an increased limit. Please note that a Dutch resident should not take more than 10.000 with him, it is none of their business to be a non-resident.
I don't think it's right? So can a non-resident bring € 100.000 from the Netherlands? And you walk next to it as, her friend, with only € 5,- with you?. I'm assuming that's all wrong?
To return to the question, the service knockers and other figures at the gate in Schiphol can ask you anything, but quite apart from whether it is necessary or allowed.
Only you're going to miss your flight if you're unlucky, something the questioner doesn't care about. So just don't fly from Schiphol. Then you avoid that bullshit.
It's never happened to me that customs will ask these silly questions, if you're okay you're okay.
With some visa applications, you are already asked for income and a copy of your passport.
They may ask, but your answer may be silly.
It is usually young guys who ask these questions, they all want to score, that phenomenon is also seen with the police in the Netherlands.
That has happened to me once at Schiphol, and indeed opening the bag, showing your wallet and even more of that nonsense, such as questions after looking at your passport and observations such as; “So you go to Thailand a lot, what do you do there?” questions that are not relevant.
And yes I know that you are not allowed to bring more than 10.000 euros, don't know how it is nowadays, but before there were large signs with this mention at the gate.
Have not departed from Schiphol for a long time to avoid this nonsense. Although the last time I did it again because of a cheap offer with EVA-air and sure enough, now I received a flyer from customs regarding child prostitution, a humiliating attitude of “our” government.
2 years ago I went to Schiphol with 18 euros, then went to pier d to execute it. I exported 000 euros on paper, because you can take 8000 freely without declaration. Well, you can forget that, asked if I had more with me and answered in the affirmative. Was taken into the office and pockets were empty. They saw the 10000 euros and were really angry. Was searched all around and fortunately not a penny emerged. The arrogance at its peak of those uniform wearers.
If you had just followed the rules and had indicated that you were taking 18000 euros with you, nothing would have happened, Eduard. Making the mistake yourself and then accusing the inspector of arrogance, well……….
@ Cornelis, 100% agree with you, nothing to add. Make a mess of yourself and blame others! If they would look at the zoll.de website, I think they would go white! Read there what can happen if you do not comply with these rules in Germany .... Fines can be up to 1 million Euros!! Yes, you read that right, a maximum of 1 million euros! Fines are immediately settled with the money that you have too much and have not declared… Why Germany?
It is one of the many reasons why I always fly from Germany (Düsseldorf) to Thailand and never from Schiphol. Quite apart from whether these questions may be asked, they are not asked in DUS. This is how you avoid this kind of firm service beaters and arrogant military police.
Perfect transport with the German train equipment and in no time at all you are at the DUS airport. We can learn a lot from that in the polder.
Exactly the same rules apply in your apparently beloved Germany. It is in the interest of taxpayers to control such matters. To call this nonsense is short-sighted.
I think they are right, looking for black money or criminal money is important, why shouldn't that be allowed, but complain about what all illegally enters the country, but this is wrong.!!!
There's nothing wrong with warning about that.
Some people are registered and are therefore more often removed from the list
Why? perhaps the guarantor has a past or a previous guarantor.
I myself get dr more often at the Schiphol Duane NL; taken out at the 1st passport control tip?
a white man arrives who stays in Thailand for a long time and so there can be something wrong yes Jan the tourist comes in brown .
Thailand simply has a name both in and out of the Netherlands, just like other countries; they are right and nx to bother you!!!
Had more than one year ago on arrival in NL about 9000 euros too much.
I also brought it from NL to Thailand.
Fine 550 euros.
I wrote a letter to the public prosecutor that I could live with being fined.
But that I found 550 euros out of all proportion.
Apparently he too.
Never heard from again.
Self unpleasant experience in March this year. I had more than the 9.999,00 with me but less than the standard for Thailand, $20.000. So immediately declared at Schiphol customs to prevent problems.
Of course they want to see your passport and have to fill out a paper with how much I had to the cent. I had a receipt from the bank, so just count some small money and I thought I was done.
Not good, my money had to be checked, could enter a booth and wait for military police / tax officers, as it became clear to me later. After half an hour of waiting there was still no one, inquiring learned that they had to be 2 and 1 was missing. But I couldn't get out of the box. They just locked me up like a criminal. So after about 1 hour finally the visit, counting money and leaving I thought, I had said I want to drink a coffee and you take so much time I will miss my flight. It was guaranteed that I would not miss my flight. They had to check everything so it became clear to me after sitting there for almost 2 hours. So after a full investigation I obtained a paper with the indicated amounts and stamps and also my passport back. I already said I'm filing a firm complaint against them, wrote down their names. Yes sorry they said, there is a debt of 97.000 euros with a payment arrangement and we thought you were about the same name. Bullshit I said, my BSN is unique and only mine. You could request my credits from the NL bank, my property, you are just bullying not to let us leave with our own money.
For me too, flying via Düsseldorf and nothing else counts anymore, I'm more than fed up with the scum of control operators, and I always open my empty suitcases when I return. They don't ask for any clothes, no, I still have everything in the Netherlands. Schiphol will lose income, but they do not understand that at all, and the state will also receive less tax income from which they have to be paid. No, that cap of theirs could be better off or exchanged for a beret, they can learn to shoot in Syria.
I'm not scared anymore. At Schiphol they sometimes ask if I fly by business class in my Amari jacket. In the US I have seen a cute dog sit next to me a few times. These are dogs of the Scrooge McDuck breed. They smell every dime. I had some in my pocket at the time, but that wasn't a problem at all. I am always calm in my conversation with the inspectors. They usually give me a nice handshake afterwards and I don't suffer from tantrums and temporary blood pressure increase. I have sometimes been difficult in the past, but that all takes time and hassle.
Yes, the same thing happened to me upon arrival.
Ooo sir, how many stamps do you have in your passport.
Are you sure you live in Thailand?
You are not yet retired.
What do you live on?
You don't have any clothes in the suitcase either.
For example, they checked and copied all the papers.
More than 100 copies.
I stood there for more than 2 hours and later I had to strip down to my underpants.
And they have me down to my knees
investigated.
Everyone wants to live in a warm country was his answer to my question why all this was.
So for me NEVER AGAIN SCHIPHOL.
Dear Ruddy,
You have actually undergone a hundred percent check.
Customs authorities at Schiphol lack the legal authority to ask passengers all kinds of questions during the so-called XNUMX% check and to collect personal information.
This is what the Supreme Court decided on Tuesday 3 July 2012 in cassation in a criminal case about the 5% control. The Supreme Court is of the opinion that the customs authorities are not authorized to issue an order or make a demand to 'cooperate with an inspection', according to a report by De Ware Tijd on Thursday XNUMX July.
Dear Thailand visitors
I have been coming to Thailand for over 20 years and have flown about 60 times.
My experience is that Schiphol is a Marechaussee training institute where every nitpicker will try to score on currency or a t-shirt that you have too much with you.
Fly via Düsseldorf and you will not be bothered by anything.
There is also customs but they are not so childish and you can go through much faster if you have the luggage.
In 12 years of Dusseldorf I've only been checked once and she didn't make a problem of a few t shirts.
I advise everyone to avoid the most customer unfriendly airport Schiphol.