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Home » Reader Submission » Reader Submission: Annual Visa Extension the rules of the game have changed
Dear readers,
It was my turn again to extend my stay for another year. Packed with the necessary copies and income statement from the embassy on the way to the immigration office. The first check showed that the rules of the game had changed. As they told me “New regulations”. The income statement from the embassy must now be stamped at Foreign Affairs in Chaeng Wattena.
So I can first go to Bangkok on Monday to have this form stamped and then on my way to my authorized immigration office. For people who had their proof of income sent by post to save the trip to Bangkok, will therefore come home from a rude awakening in the future.
In the future, they will still have to travel to Bangkok to have this form stamped by “Forgeign Affairs at Chaeng Wattana
Submitted by Emil
That's been the case in Nongkhai for years, so I'm going on the 8 ton regulation, at least I'm off that. Apparently, the letter from a Thai bank inspires more confidence than the embassy's stamp.
If you use the 800.000 Thai Bath option, you will not only receive a letter from the bank, but you must also hand in a copy of your bank book and also have the original bank book with you, if they want to see it for verification. That's pretty close to the Immigration Office.
Nico B
This week I also had my annual visa extended at the Immigration Soi 5, but no problem at all with the income statement provided by the Austrian! Embassy in Pattaya. (1900 Baht)
I did find the multiple entry proof expensive: 3800 Baht, I don't remember that from last year.
A "Multiple Re-entry" (not a multiple entry, that's only for visas) has long been 3800 Baht.
A “Single Re-entry” is 1000 Baht.
There are more changes
we have been going to thailand for 4 months with a tourist visa with 2 entrances costing € 60 pp has been abolished now we have to apply for a visa of € 150 pp. So checkout.
Dear Marian,
I think those costs are not too bad if you consider that an exemption from visa for 30 days upon arrival in BKK costs no money, so it is free.
If a Thai wanted to enter the Netherlands for a maximum of 30 days, they would have to pay 60 euros per person.
You can also stay in Thailand for 4 months 'in a row' (just out and in). Conversely, this is a maximum of 3 months, otherwise an mvv application for which the costs are 233 euros per person.
So is that 150 euros completely unjustified?
Kind regards, Hendrik S.
It's getting harder and harder to stay here. But what about the other new arrangement? 6 months visa and 400000 baht on your account?
I think you mean the Multiple Entry Tourist Visa (METV).
A bank statement with a positive balance of 5.000 euros is required for this.
Stated clearly on the website
http://www.royalthaiconsulateamsterdam.nl/index.php/visa-service/visum-aanvragen
I don't know 6 months visa and 400000 baht on your account.
Dear Emily,
The rules of the game change all the time. That's just how it is.
It is always good to report rules that change on the blog.
Everyone always benefits from that.
However, I would like to note that this is certainly not applicable in every immigration office yet.
It is therefore not necessary to write that everyone should now go to Bangkok in the future.
As a reader, when you read such information, you should first inquire whether this also applies in your immigration office before immediately leaving for Bangkok.
It is therefore useful and necessary to state the name of your immigration office, or at least the place where your immigration office is located (as Erik did) when you report such things.
Of course, “my authorized immigration office” does not help anyone.
Thank you for the report Emil, because it is useful information you provide, but it only concerns your immigration office.
Dear Ronny, I was also informed at the immigration in Huahin (June 14th) that next year I must have my income statement legalized at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Bangkok. I haven't been able to find it yet where it says and I don't know if there are any costs involved.
Thanks for reporting it.
As I said, rules can change.
Costs will always be involved.
Not only legalize that, but you also have to go to Bangkok especially for it.
Someone somewhere must have come up with the idea that there is also quite a bit of money to be made, for MBZ that is. Send note, and we're off.
It is possible that it will be applied everywhere within a few years…
2 weeks ago I had my retirement visa extended in Nathon, Koh Samui.
They wanted not only a letter from the bank, as proof of the 800.000 baht, but also a "statement" of your account and of course a copy of everything and anything. And the bank book itself.
The new form of 3 A4 sheets was also introduced here, on which a passport photo must also be pasted.
An acquaintance who came to immigration 1 week ago also had to submit a health statement.
New regulations. 🙂
They are really trying to bully us out.
If only it was a health certificate. Blood pressure must be measured, a blood test done for a number of diseases and, yes really, an X-ray of the chest must be taken.
Next year maybe a Full body CT scan and an internal bowel examination and the year after that you will of course be hospitalized for a week for a total check-up. Oh yes and of course first to the dentist for a healthy teeth statement, accompanied again by the necessary X-rays of the teeth still present. And then first have all the problems solved, otherwise you can no longer eat in a Thai restaurant.
This is of course to prevent all those sick foreigners who live here from infecting all those very healthy Thai people. Look and that's what those measures are for, To prevent that.
You get the best of the best here: NATHON on Koh Samui. Everyone will know by now that this immigration office is really the top of the bill when it comes to assholes. Where an extension normally costs 19OOTHB, you can pay 5000THB there. If you don't, dear friend, there will be an unnoticeable or unrecognizable scribble in your passport for you. Next time you are the cigar and can start walking. That has been a known fact there in Nathon for years and no one is doing anything about it. I would rather not quote this example for the readers. There on Koh Samui is also the "crumb" of the long-stayers of whom you wonder how they get a long-stay visa .... And don't think I don't know Nathon Immigration or Koh Samui…. I'm only back in my homestay after the 25th (could be even more) short stay on Koh Samui. If you speak of a soup with meatballs, then immigration Koh Samui is the best example.
Right.
I sometimes get information that is in line with what you write.
Perhaps that “crew of long-stayers who you wonder how they get a long-stay visa” has also ensured that it has become that way.
In other immigration offices you sometimes see that stricter rules are often imposed locally
Usually this is because a new boss wants to assert himself and that will fall back after a few months,
It is worse when the cause is people who abuse or cannot comply with the simple basic rules. Then everything is tightened up
The “good family man/mother” who has always been correct must then also pay for this.
So in Nathon immigration office an income statement from the Dutch embassy is not sufficient? I understood it was either/or: 800k or income statement. So maybe better go to Surat Thani Imm. go for an extension?
And you can only request an extension in the 30 days before the stay period ends, correct?
Yes, but some immigration offices also accept it 45 days before.
It really doesn't matter when you're going to submit it. The th extension will always follow the previous period of stay. There is no gain or loss in filing sooner or later.
Just fill up.
Yes it is always either/or/or… You always have three options. Doesn't it say it's either/or/or...
What he means is that you must also submit a “bank statement” in addition to the bank letter. That is not an income statement.
That “bank statement” must be from the day itself. So don't forget to update your bank book on the day itself.
That bank letter may usually not be older than one week.
“Bank letter” and “bank statement” are two different things that are often confused with each other. Especially its validity period.
Dear Menno,
Surat Thani and Koh Samui immigration are one pot wet. By the way, Surat Thani, as the capital of the province, to which Koh Samui still belongs, is the headquarters. Those who are sent “walking” in Nathon then go to Surat Thani because they “cannot” help them in Nathon. There in Surat Thani they immediately know “what time” it is because they also know that “Nathon scribble”. By the way, the complaints about the behavior in Nathon had to go to Surat Thani, where the complaints got stuck with the result that nothing was done about it.
In Pattaya Jomtien I have not heard anything about that… ..Each immigration has its own rules.
I have my doubts here about immigration that comes along with all sorts of nonsensical and nowhere-defined “new rules”, which are different again the week after.
How many people here have the same experience as the contributor? So you also have to visit the Ministry of Foreign Affairs with the income statement issued by the embassy? I can't find anything about it on other forums so far. I think more is needed before we elevate this to 'the new truth'. I absolutely do not doubt the experience of the contributor, by the way, just to be clear.
Having the signature of the Dutch Embassy legalized by the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not actually add anything. the certainty of the income that you state yourself in the income statement. The fact that you specify this yourself is also stated on the statement from the Embassy. If at all possible, use the option of a bank balance of at least 800.000 Thai Bath, which must be available for at least 3 months. Remember, if you have a card on that account, that you keep the balance a bit more spacious, so that you do not fall below 800.000, for example by debiting the annual costs of that card.
Nico B
Sorry forgot to mention that it was Ayutthaya
Also in Nonthaburi, the income statement from the embassy must be legalized by BZ.
It seems strong to me that you have to go to Bangkok from all over the country.
I've been going for retirement since all the years I've lived here, for the 800000 plus choice.
Has been the case for years that you have to submit a certificate letter of the bank (in Chiangmai not older than 7 days) and copies of your bank book or books of only the last 3 months.
You must also be able to show the original bank book or books during the interview.
The waiting times are long here in CM, but once it's your turn and you've got everything done, less than 10 minutes of work.
I think that Thai immigration finally realizes that there is a lot of fraud with those income statements.
The embassy does not have to check that what you state actually matches your income .
Here in Thailand at the immi , they are also getting smarter .
Jan Beute.
in Nakhon Raychasima = Korat: letter from the bank confirming the balance = certicate.
And then this year for the first time also a statement from the bank that the balance has been on it for 3 months
so 2 explanations. And notably, the bank book also indicates all this, but yes, what we Westerners find logical and clear, the Thai asks for confirmation in multiples. (idem everywhere a whole series of signatures : but for what ??? . Completely superfluous , but you can't tell them that.
And since 3 years people also want to see a transaction on the day of reporting to Immigration in the bank book (just deposit 100 baht): is therefore a 3 double check of the balance / of the 800.000 baht.
And to top it off: since last year, the bank letter has to be of the same day as the extension of stay, in other words you first have to go to the bank in the morning (all bank branches open at 10.30 am and then on your way to Immigration with the bank documents And I'm lucky that I live nearby, 25 km away.
Last year I thought I would have the letter from the bank made a day earlier, but this was not accepted.
And so something changes every year that means you have to go to the bank twice.
And speaking of the Immigration in Korat : the internet lists all the documents that you can download. Have you downloaded it and filled it in and delivered it to them, they look at you if they hear it thundering in Cologne, really every time with different people. And then casually ask where the hell did you get this from. Well I answer: from your own website….
Fortunately I don't worry about it at all, I actually find it funny and typical of the Thai bureaucracy. I know that's how it goes and fortunately I have enough time and I think it's fine.
Efficiency, search for solutions, consultation, etc. are once Western values. You cannot address them on this, both in business and with the authorities.
Indeed, the embassy does not check the income statement. It is a self-declaration and not an embassy statement. The embassy only stamps and the form also clearly states that you declare yourself.
I wonder how Thai BZ could check the statement. Annual statement! Oh well, that too can be counterfeited.
At the bottom of the income statement it says that the Embassy is not responsible for the amount entered and entered, here is the trick, at the USA Embassy they will check it out, and you must solemnly promise that you speak the truth.
So it's wet finger work, because you can enter any amount, and take veneered papers to immigration.
I think that the Embassy, together with the pension funds (if necessary, they can very easily access the intranet of the funds) should actually check it, now the end is just missing and the immigration officials are certainly not stupid, that can mean ... that a gentleman on Watana suddenly refuses to put a stamp ( legalized ) Then the turnips are cooked .... and you are colored.
Here in Cambodia it is a lot easier, if I need to extend my 1 year visa with multiply entry, I take my passport to a travel agency with a visa service, pay the fee $ 280 and about ten days later I have my passport back with a new visas. And that without application forms and/or bank books.