Isan experiences (3)

By The Inquisitor
Posted in Living in Thailand
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April 29, 2018

Dark brown earth, filled with promises of fertility, give the Isan land a different view. There is no water on it yet, so it reminds De Inquisitor of the springtime Flemish countryside. When you make the effort to take a closer look, you will see that it is full of life. The earth clods are full of worms that provide good aeration. Lizards, frogs and unknown insects enliven the whole.

 
Just about everyone in the village has plowed their fields, ready to welcome the abundant rains.
Very locally here there has been hardly any rain until the day before yesterday. Unlike other parts of Thailand where there was unusually much rain for the time of year. Sakhon Nakon and especially Udon Thani were hit by heavy summer storms, wind, a lot of rain and even hail balls the size of golf balls caused heavy damage. The Inquisitor also read that Bangkok, Pattaya and other parts of the country were also hit, accompanied by flooding as always.

Here the climate remained calm. In fact, there was hardly any rain, only two nice showers in recent weeks, that was all. Since New Year we received a total of four showers that stopped after an hour. Dry nature of course, but no one was awake. The rains will come is the general statement. It has been that way for centuries, they have hardly heard of climate change or anything else, let alone believe in it.

And they are right too. Their fields were just ready, and then the clouds came in. Menacing blackness in the distance that approached slowly but surely. Traditionally, there are gusts of wind that announce that it will fall wet. But the heat continued its resistance during the day, held the drops. With high humidity as a result, suffering for humans and animals. Only after sunset the clouds were oversaturated and the showers fell. A relief, the temperature dropped to a pleasant twenty-seven degrees, coming from over thirty-five. But it fell silent again for a day. A kind of North Sea sky, gray and gloomy, some wind, fortunately there will be openings in the clouds later and afterwards the sun simply burns away the cloudy sky.

It resulted in beautiful pictures yesterday morning. At sunrise a mist hangs close to the warm ground, two or three meters high. Just enough to let the brown earth color through and the bright green tree tops stick out above it, beautiful. The sun was present again, an orange-yellow sphere rises and gives everything a nice appearance. All green comes to life. Shrubs, trees, flowers.

The dogs are lively because of the cooler air, the cats want to go outside. Young buffaloes hop playfully behind the adult animals to the grazing areas. People seem even happier and friendlier, the young children are playing outside at the schools that have reopened. Teenagers are excited, they still have vacation until the middle of next month and they are enjoying their youth.

And so De Inquisitor makes another mistake regarding manners in Isaan. Stepdaughter, almost fifteen now, has a boyfriend. Well, in his Belgian life De Inquisitor had already experienced all this with his daughter and he reacted in a Western way. The boy, almost eighteen, has a show for sale. Completely normal at that age, of course, but it bothered The Inquisitor. A young man who does not say hello is enough to put The Inquisitor on his horse, moreover, he does not take off his fashionable shoes when entering the shop, probably too difficult because of the laces. So the guy on the grain: are you always so rude? Who keeps Eastern deaf. Barely looks at the Inquisitor, seeks support from his sweetheart. In vain, he also knows the moods of De Inquisitor.

Are you still studying or working? What are you going to be? The male begins to visibly sweat, then takes off his shoes anyway and takes a drink from the fridge. And places himself with his girlfriend who is sitting at the counter. The Inquisitor casually stands by, just out of wantonness. Can't they please, the few words of Isaan that De Inquisitor can pronounce perfectly make someone who doesn't know him think he has mastered the language.

Liefje-sweet follows everything with alternating facial expressions. Satisfied on the one hand that The Inquisitor puts the little guy in his place, on the other hand annoyed that The Inquisitor flouts Isan protocol. He will also hear that afterwards. Because you don't know who that boy's parents are, possibly important people? We don't tee-rak like that. We let them do.

But the sweet also knows that this will not work as long as The Inquisitor is here. Politeness is an elementary duty, especially of young people. Second, this is The Inquisitor's territory. That includes some rules, he has settled in well, has adapted heavily to Isan standards, but there is a limit. And if those parents were important people, then so be it. Everyone equal before the law.

Fortunately, the incident is quickly forgotten, stepdaughter is even happy about it. And De Inquisitor immediately takes advantage of the moment. Talk to three. What about information regarding relationships, he wants to know? It turns out that this is not taught at school.

 
So take the plunge, first with the stepdaughter: only if you are ready and want it yourself can you sleep with someone. Which gives the daughter a red head but The Inquisitor continues. "Do you understand? A young man wants that fast and a lot, only give in when you want it too, not before”. Fortunately, he now receives support from sweetheart who understands the seriousness of it. Then discuss contraceptives. “It's about time she brought condoms with her” – and to the daughter: “always with a condom for now!”. Who apparently knows what that is…. To the love afterwards: "Wouldn't she better start taking the pill gradually?" – “You don't want a teenage pregnancy, do you?”. Heavy costs for an Isan lady, also for her daughter, but you can't just let everything take its course, he reports again.

For the time being, the Inquisitor has no idea whether any work will be done, one of the weeks he will have to find a good opportunity to bring it up again.

And so the day ends, without noticing it the sky is pregnant with pitch-black clouds. Lightning flashes and thunder herald heavy rain. It also comes just when we crawl into bed. The Inquisitor finds that very relaxing. Especially when the wind is good and the bedroom window can be open. The flashes of light, the popping. And afterwards the murmur of the rain, that makes you fall asleep.

23 responses to “Isan experiences (3)”

  1. Tino Kuis says up

    Nicely written, Inquisitor! Don't follow along too much and show too much 'respect' for 'Thai culture', but do and say what you think, everything that is right and valuable.

  2. LOUISE says up

    Hello Inquisitor,

    Yes, before you know it you'll be grandpa.
    But what do you think just give the pill, what honey sweet said and a condom?
    These as safety for all communicable sexual misery
    And then hope that the daughter uses everything for her own safety.

    LOUISE

  3. John Chiang Rai says up

    Dear Inquisitor, also very nicely written in my opinion, and proof that not everything goes without rules, if we have also learned them.
    Your short parenting conversation with the young man who did not greet, and moreover did not take off his shoes when entering the shop, in contrast to the Isan / Thai customs, is a good example of this.
    Also that you seek an open conversation with your stepdaughter, and try to teach her that the time to sleep with someone, at her age, is only with her, testifies to a knowledge that many men here mistakenly think otherwise.
    Your further indication, that if she is really that far herself, it is better to do this with condom and pill use, will possibly save her for a reformed future.
    A future where a young lady with a child of the so-called father is abandoned, without him making any further financial contribution to mother and child, is unfortunately not a rarity in Thailand.
    Also that they are reminded of their financial obligations by the government, towards their child, I have not yet seen this happen in Thailand, but sorry here I think maybe too Western again.

  4. Paul says up

    Dear “Inquisitor”,

    I have become a frequent reader of your publications and I must say that they do not always make me completely cheerful, so to speak. In my experience you regularly allow yourself a pedantic and generalizing attitude towards the foreigner living in Thailand, also called "Farang". That bothers me and I just want to share that with you. Incidentally, it fits with the choice of your pseudonym, because the original inquisitor was both prosecutor and judge in his position, a combination that we fortunately no longer know in our current society. In addition, the investigation of the original inquisitor was generally authorized "corporal punishment". Such a pseudonym would therefore not have been my choice, but to each his own.

    It is all the more remarkable that I recognized this publication on a number of points, namely the respect for Thai traditions, but also the limits thereof. I also recognize the territory you mentioned. I handle that too. For example: I'm being eaten at the table and we don't start until everyone is there. Collecting together from one rice basket is something everyone should know for themselves, but I'm not participating. And yes, I eat with a fork and knife. A spoon is for the soup as far as I'm concerned. And papaya pokpok for them and a piece of roast meat for me, that goes well together. Unsolicited snooping in my fridge or other cupboards is an invasion of my privacy and I will not accept it. You sleep at home and not on my terrace after dinner. After all, respect is always mutual, isn't it?

    And then the greetings: The first time my current partner stayed with me in the Netherlands in Rotterdam, she laughed every time I greeted someone on the street. She then asked me if I knew that person. That wasn't usually the case, so why did I say hello? Just out of kindness. She thought that was strange, but later she saw something disarming in it. I've been living here for a year now in my new house, right next to a local road, just outside the village. I'm usually outside and from the beginning I started greeting passers-by. Just with a wave and a “Hello”. People thought that was very strange at first, but now everyone who passes by does it. It costs nothing and it always puts a smile on everyone's face. always that nice moment.
    .
    I think it's downright rude that people here don't have the decency to say hello in any language when you enter your house. This also applies to workmen who finish some chores around the house. I therefore do not hide that and now greet everyone who arrives here.

    With the courtship of your stepdaughter, I wish you lots of wisdom.

    • The Inquisitor says up

      And then I'm still good about many farangs … .

      • John Chiang Rai says up

        Dear Inquisitor, I don't know how it is with greetings within the family in Isan, but here in the village it is certainly not customary within the family to say good morning after getting up in the morning.
        Everyone passes each other early in the morning, and without saying much throws himself into his daily work.
        It is different if, for example, an outsider comes, or if someone from the family leaves, or returns, then you immediately hear the well-known "sawadee" "pai nai". and pai nai maa"
        Good thing that crazy farang knows this from his culture no different, now some already start the day with a,, good morning” or a,, sawadee tone chau” which sounds better to me than saying nothing.

        • The Inquisitor says up

          Beats. They don't.
          Except in front of me, wherever I go.
          In our shop and at our house everyone when I'm there.
          Housemates and family are doing it now too.
          One of my pet peeves. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening.

        • henry says up

          It is not customary in Thailand to say good morning or good night.

    • Cornelis says up

      Unsolicited visitors who open my fridge themselves to see what's in it for their liking: I quickly made it clear that I find that unacceptable. The habit of some visitors to just join you and start talking to your partner without greeting me or telling me who they are also annoys me. I know it's not meant to be but it feels like being ignored. That's how I explained it and then it turns out that there is understanding.

      • The Inquisitor says up

        Uh, it was in our shop, wasn't it?
        Self service.

  5. Arjan says up

    Actually, I catch myself that a message from Thailandblog, without a message from the Inquisitor, causes me a slight form of disappointment.
    Fantastic stories, beautifully written! No photo reportage is necessary; the fantasy is stimulated more than enough.
    Perhaps it is an idea to interest a publisher in publishing a publication for a select audience from the Low Countries.

    Finally, I completely agree with you about the compliance by guests with the norms and values ​​where you are a guest.

    If that principle is followed worldwide, it becomes a lot easier for equality and understanding between families/traditions/religions/nations, but for centuries the contrary has been proven and for centuries this has been pointed out in many forms and during many annual moments…

  6. Erwin Fleur says up

    Dear Inquisitor,

    Love this topic. in my case i also have a daughter who is nice and to bad
    liked by boys.

    As far as respect is concerned, this really leaves something to be desired in Isaan.
    They know, of course, that they would have to pay a dowry if there was any sense
    there is a courtship or marriage.

    That's where it starts to get really annoying sometimes when a lot of guys try
    in the knowledge that my daughter doesn't want or even want to talk to these guys.
    Especially if my daughter knows where it ends and sometimes there is nothing else to do than address them
    on their behaviour.

    And it doesn't stop here, if they don't get their way they will go behind your back for anything and everything
    to finish.

    Yes, I did warn my daughter about this and she abides by the rule.
    These guys often have no respect at all and feel what they get over themselves.

    Love makes people blind, but there are some who are really obsessed.

    Furthermore, it is also the rule in our house, no shoes, not in the fridge or refrigerator, not on
    the toilet seat and greet someone nicely and certainly not come into the house uninvited, and
    show respect for older people.

    With kind respect,

    Erwin

  7. henry says up

    I understand the inquisitor's concern. Because Isaan has by far the highest number of teenage pregnancies in Thailand. Where the male population still has the habit of lavishly scattering their seed, but does not have the habit of taking responsibility for his offspring. So my advice is to take the daughter to a gynecologist as soon as possible to have them prescribe the pill and to ensure that she takes it every day.
    Because she is 15 and sexual needs and desires are starting to come into play. Especially in a remote village in Isaan where there is not much to do for teenagers besides sex.
    The high number of teenage pregnancies is proof of this.

    • The Inquisitor says up

      I believe that this is not just an Isan problem.
      This applies all over the world.

    • Tino Kuis says up

      Here is a good article on teenage pregnancy in Thailand

      https://www.unicef.org/thailand/160614_SAAP_in_Thailand_report_EN.pdf

      Number of teenage pregnancies per thousand births in the various regions

      Isan 192
      Central Plain 176
      North 173
      South 142
      Bangkok and Deep South 105

      The Isaan is the highest, but not a very big difference with the next two regions. The number of teenage pregnancies is mainly related to education and income (and therefore not to 'cultural' factors), which determine knowledge and access to contraceptives.

      • chris says up

        I looked through the story a bit but I read that some of the important factors are: the role of parents (they don't talk about it), the division of roles between boys and girls, the sex education in school (sometimes yes, sometimes no). I think it's all cultural factors...

        • Tino Kuis says up

          Chris,

          I was mainly interested in the differences between the various regions in Thailand. Teenage pregnancies in Bangkok half that in Isan. Cultural? Maybe.

          The article I mentioned above also speaks about poverty, poor access to contraceptives and abortion and lack of information.

          How many parents in the Netherlands provide explicit sex education to their children? How do you use a condom? Where can you buy them etc.?

          Cultural factors play a role but are too often dragged into it.

          • chris says up

            Tino, Tino, Tino anyway.
            Now you are not going to tell us that there are no CULTURAL (values ​​and norms) differences underlying the difference in teenage pregnancies between Thailand and the Netherlands. I understand that you don't want to touch it, but let me list a few cultural differences for you:
            – thinking about sexuality;
            – thinking about the use of contraceptives and abortion;
            – the response of governments to everything related to sexuality and nudity;
            – compulsory sex education at school;
            – thinking about the equality of men and women;
            – thinking about women who get pregnant at a young age;
            – these subjects are no longer taboo as items of conversation at school, between parents and children and in TV programs in NL.
            And, for the record, I'm not talking about the conservative Protestants/Catholics because their opinion is very similar to the views and actions of a large part of the Thai population. Hence the big difference in teenage pregnancies.

          • henry says up

            Bangkok has a high percentage of ethnic Chinese, who are usually highly educated, and there is a large middle class.
            In the south and deep, it is mainly ethnic Malays and ethnic Chinese. So culture and education play a role

      • Ger Korat says up

        I also looked through it and still missed an important aspect. Namely the age structure in the regions. Bangkok is known for the fact that many young people move to the city after school, aged 18 or older. You therefore get a skewed distribution in Bangkok, namely relatively few children; resulting in relatively few teenage pregnancies than in regions where there is a larger share of non-adults, such as Isaan and the north. Without an age structure you cannot compare Bangkok with other regions. The same applies to the elderly: relatively little presence in Bangkok. In the 2000s and 30s, it was regularly argued that half of Bangkok's residents were younger than 18 years old, precisely due to the strong attraction of workers over XNUMX years old from other regions.

    • Walter says up

      My 21-year-old stepdaughter has never slept with a guy, enthusiasts enough, but she wants to finish her studies first, find a job and then look at a nice guy who doesn't chase his dick but is also serious. She knows the examples of Thai males with flax mustaches and who already have sex before they can write their name, from her circle of friends, she is really not waiting for that.

  8. Bert says up

    An acquaintance of ours had 2 sweet stepdaughters, who came to NL at the age of 8 and 10 years.
    When they were around 14 years old, he asked his wife if it wasn't time for a serious conversation about the flowers and the bees. Answer, that's not necessary, they'll discover that themselves. Yes but what if??
    Answer, well then I am grandma and you are grandpa.
    THEY (and many other TH moms or dads) find such conversations inappropriate. At school, too little attention is paid to it. And TV is completely blurred out

    • Rob V says up

      In the Netherlands, parents may provide more or more information, but here too it remains uncomfortable for both the child and the parents. More and more uncomfortable even, see AD article. We'd rather leave it to school (or porn sites). A wise choice by the Inquisitor to mainly insist on saying 'no'. This can come in handy, not only with sex, but also with drinks and the like.

      https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/ouders-van-nu-hebben-meer-moeite-met-seksuele-voorlichting~a3c8fbba/


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