Reporter: Bert
I respect your hard work for this blog. Today I applied for a visa (Non Imm O, based on marriage single entry) in The Hague. For this I had to provide proof of insurance due to COVID 19 ($100.000).
This is also clearly stated on the website. So you have to prove twice that you have that insurance. When applying for a visa and when applying for a CoE.
Reaction RonnyLatYa
Yes, and then someone is claiming that this is currently not the case? In The Hague anyway. But actually this is an unjustified requirement from the embassy when applying for a visa. However, it is a requirement to obtain a CoE. Not that it will make that much of a difference and I think they already ask at that stage so that applicants are already OK when applying for their CoE later
That COVID19 insurance was introduced as a Corona measure (sometime in September 20 I thought) and anyone who wants to enter Thailand, whether with a visa, re-entry, or visa-free, must be able to present that insurance. That is why they have also introduced the CoE to be able to check those Corona requirements.
The fact that the embassy already requires this when applying for a visa is their own decision, not a requirement that the Thai government has imposed on them to obtain a visa.
It will of course be different if that measure that recently appeared in the newspapers is introduced. Then it will be a visa requirement. Apply for a visa/extension for OA anyway.
For those who are still unsure whether it is currently being asked for their extension
"Warning
This COVID-19 Insurance Policy, together with its renewal, is a requirement for inbound travelers to Thailand only.
It is not intended for foreigners currently living in Thailand.”
Home – Covid 19 Insurance (tgia.org)
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I don't understand why everyone is so fussy about that $100.000 insurance policy
Currently in quarantine hotel in Bangkok. I had an English statement from CZ stating that I am also insured against covid 19 and that there is no maximum amount. This was accepted without question for the application of a COE and was also no problem at all during the inspection in Bangkok.
Dear Josh!
I think this is very good news, especially for you! Because I do not understand that you have obtained acceptance of your statement from the embassy and immigration, apparently without mentioning the amounts and also for the NON IMM visa, because that is what this posting is also about. I assume that in your statement from CZ the other amounts (THB400.000/THB 40.000) have not been reported either, because I don't read anything about that.
Believe me, it was not for our own pleasure that we wrote to ministries (BuZa and Min VWS), SKGZ and Zorgverzekeraars Nederland with the complaint that we could no longer obtain statements from insurers that were acceptable to the embassy.
But once again it turns out how fickle the Thai government is and you deserve it. Hopefully others, including myself, will soon too!
Ronny, try to follow it, maybe missed something? If I'm wrong, I apologize in advance. I quote:
“It will of course be different if that measure that recently appeared in the newspapers is introduced. Then it will be a visa requirement.
Apply for a visa/extension for OA anyway.
For those who are still unsure whether it is currently being asked for their extension
"Warning
This COVID-19 Insurance Policy, together with its renewal, is a requirement for inbound travelers to Thailand only. Never seen before, where did this come from?
It is not intended for foreigners currently living in Thailand.”
Home – Covid 19 Insurance (tgia.org)”.
“Apply for a visa/extension for OA anyway”.
“ is not for foreigners currently living in Thailand. “
To apply or not to apply?
Currently reside in Thailand on the basis of an OA visa and annually request an extension of my residence period by 1 year on the basis of retirement/bank balance.
So if I don't leave Thailand I'm not an inbound traveler and I don't need a COVID-19 insurance policy?
If I request an annual extension of my period of stay for one year on the basis of an OA visa, will I have to submit a COVID-19 policy with my next request in a few months?
Conclusion: I don't think so.
1. It still says “For those who still doubt whether it is CURRENTLY requested with their renewal
Warning
This COVID-19 Insurance Policy, together with its renewal, is a requirement for inbound travelers to Thailand only. It is not intended for foreigners currently living in Thailand.”
Home – Covid 19 Insurance (tgia.org)”.
It clearly says MOMENTAL and that means NOW. What the current situation is like.
Has always been this way since the introduction of that $100 000 COVID 19 requirement and is not new. Just because you haven't seen/read something before doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's why I also include the link where that text is. And that's why I always say that the $ 100 COVID000 insurance is actually a CoE requirement for "inbound" travelers and not a visa requirement or an extension requirement. CURRENTLY anyway. That is NOW, right now.
2. “Obviously things will be different if that measure that recently appeared in the newspapers is introduced. Then it will be a visa requirement.”
“It will be different when that measure is introduced” refers to something that COULD happen in the future. Not on a current situation. So different from CURRENTLY.
But apart from some newspaper articles, we do not yet know the correct details of that proposal, whether/and when it will be introduced and what consequences it will have. With the latter I mean that we only know that the proposal is intended for OA visa applicants/holders and it will then have consequences for the application for an OA visa and the extension of an OA stay period. And if the new conditions state that it must be submitted when applying for an OA, it will indeed become a visa requirement from then on. If it is also required for OA renewals, you will also have to submit it with your application for renewal. But again that is something that they are planning to introduce. It is still a proposal and CURRENTLY not applicable and we do not know when it will be introduced.
3. CURRENTLY (NOW) that 100 Dollar insurance only applies to every traveler who wants to enter Thailand, ie all “inbound travelers”. If you are already staying in Thailand and do not leave Thailand, you are not a traveler who wants to enter Thailand (inbound traveler). Of course not, because you are already here and CURRENTLY not applicable to you.
4. I do not know when this new proposal will be introduced. If it will eventually be introduced. As I said before we have no date and no details. It's also not signed yet as far as I know. But I also don't know what will apply in a few months when you submit your application for renewal. I can only say what is CURRENTLY applicable and what MAY happen in the future.
Conclusion
CURRENTLY (NOW) nothing has changed yet, but I don't know what it will be like in a few months when you will apply for your extension.
I don't have a crystal ball. (Too bad) You have to go to Madame Soleil for that.
@sjaakie: Right, under the current rules you don't need 100,000 USD/COVID insurance if you don't leave Thailand. However, this is going to change, a cabinet decision was taken on this last week.
In the future, the current 400,000/40,000 baht requirement, to be purchased from 1 of the approved Thai insurers, seems to expire.
It will be replaced by the new requirement: a minimum of USD 100,000 coverage + coverage for COVID.
What is very positive is that foreign companies will also be accepted in the future.
This was not the case with the old scheme, so that many who had well-covered foreign insurance still had to take out extra Thai insurance.
@Ronny, Thank you for your extensive response, clearly, the current rules will be adjusted and we are waiting to see how they will read. Madame Soleil had the day off.
@Matthieu, a pity, but that in the future policies taken out with foreign insurers will also be accepted solves something for a number of OA Visa holders, but not for those who have a medical history and are therefore not accepted, as well as for those who are age can no longer take out a policy.
Regards,
Hello Jos,
You seem to have just slipped through the cracks of the Thai Covid.
You probably didn't go with KLM, because the ground staff already checks for this, and someone is also checking all CoE conditions again at the gate: including the $100.000 and the Bht 40.000/400.000 insurance policies.
Which airline did you fly with?
Hallo,
i also received a NON IMM O visa and CEO on a statement in April, from ASR, with no amounts for Covid or 40/400, and flew to Bangkok with KLM. With an extra rule that COVID-19 is also covered. In both Amsterdam and Bangkok, the demand for the amounts and in both cases the explanation was that the coverage of 100% of what would be reimbursed in the Netherlands is higher than the requested amounts.
It was also mentioned that the insurance covers trips of up to 365 days.
What I think, if I read posts on this blog properly, yield differences of accepting/not accepting, are:
– cover applies for the entire period of validity of the visa.
– NON IMM O is a statement without amounts accepted, but not with others, such as NON IMM OA!
Groet
Henk
Dear Henk,
I take your word for it, but from May 1st the rules have been changed and made stricter.
So you were there just in time. Lucky 🙂
Just a reply to Haki and Mark. I had received a statement from CZ for those 40.000 and 400.000 THB!. But when I asked for a $100.000 statement, she wouldn't give it to me. And she also told me that they don't issue that statement of 40.000 and 400.000 THB anymore either. That English statement that I am also insured for covid 19 and there is no maximum without the mention of USD 100.000 I emailed to the embassy to ask if this was also ok. I then received an email that it was approved. Of course I have stapled that email to it. And Mark, I did fly with KLM. The lady at the counter didn't know what I needed at all. So I told her myself. It also says that you can download that app from
ThailandPlus must download. But nobody asked for that. When you arrive in Bangkok, it's quite a circus. They are waiting for you with a whole group to check everything. And that happens in 4 places before you get to customs. And even customs still have to see everything. Think it took him fifteen minutes to put everything in the computer. But yeah, all's well that ends well. Sitting in my quarantine hotel now and still have 12 days to go
Regarding your comment about customs, Jos, I think you mean Immigration. Thai customs play a completely different role and are only interested in your luggage,